Anonymous
01/25/2022 19:25
Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Well aren't you the authority on this subject.
Just for the record, I don't see color. And I'm teaching my kids (who are in local privates) to behave and respond in the same way. We look at the content of one's character. And I presume your character to be quite elitist.
You do see color. You just make a well-intentioned effort to ignore it. However, that may be unsuccessful and harmful.
Unsuccessful? Perhaps. Harmful? No
Anonymous
01/25/2022 19:08
Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Well aren't you the authority on this subject.
Just for the record, I don't see color. And I'm teaching my kids (who are in local privates) to behave and respond in the same way. We look at the content of one's character. And I presume your character to be quite elitist.
You do see color. You just make a well-intentioned effort to ignore it. However, that may be unsuccessful and harmful.
Anonymous
01/25/2022 17:36
Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“I don’t see color” is problematic and patently false. Do better.
Only among liberal freaks like you.
+1. For most of us, it's how the world goes 'round.
Anonymous
01/25/2022 17:35
Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:“I don’t see color” is problematic and patently false. Do better.
Only among liberal freaks like you.
Anonymous
01/25/2022 17:13
Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
These trainings are more about seeing racism than “seeing color”. But you have to see color to see racism…or at least I think that’s the idea. I loathe the culture keepers at schools like St. Pats. But telling people what to think and how to talk to their kids isn’t part of a school’s job imo
Anonymous
01/25/2022 16:14
Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
For those of you who want others to “see color”… what do you want us to do about it once we “see” it? What assumptions do you want us to make?
I believe that respecting differences are a fundamental lesson of childhood. When others say that they are teaching their children to be color blind, it’s exactly this. You see someone’s color just as you see that they are tall, or overweight, or they have a beautiful smile.
I believe that respecting differences are a fundamental lesson of childhood. When others say that they are teaching their children to be color blind, it’s exactly this. You see someone’s color just as you see that they are tall, or overweight, or they have a beautiful smile.
Anonymous
01/25/2022 15:45
Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Who are you to train parents in anything? And why does it fall to the school to do this? Why can’t parents talk about these issues with their own children at home, church or synogogue. Why does it have to be a public or private school issue? Many schools are going to have egg on their faces when this hoopla dies down and there is a strong reaction as we’ve already seen with the Salvation Army. I’m not paying a school for this and certainly not to “train” me in this Marxism and I’m not donating my dollars to it either. Scratch St Pat’s off the list.
Troll!
No! That's the best you can do as a response? Yell "Troll!".
Anonymous
01/25/2022 13:40
Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ I'm the PP and I'm saying this as a privileged white person, not a person of color.
Of course you are; you are a Karen who thrives on things like this. Please don't tell me what is a mistake when it comes to raising my kids. You have no idea who I am or what my background is.
For the record, when I say that I am teaching my kids to be colorblind - of course we all "see" color, like I "see" that you are wearing a blue shirt or I can "see" that you are tall. But those traits have nothing more to do with who you are as a person, and the kind of person that you are and whether or not I want to be friends with you, than does the color of your skin. I'm sorry that you still judge, stereotype and categorize people on outward appearances such as this. Perhaps one day you will evolve.
The fact that you are teaching your children colorblindness makes you a racist. Perhaps one day YOU will evolve.
Oh, please explain that one to us. This I can't wait to hear.
How about you explain to me why in your opinion teaching colorblindness doesn't perpetuate racism?
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
Anonymous
01/25/2022 13:36
Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about the ultimate goal here. The conservative CCC parents won’t attend or won’t take it seriously. The other parents probably don’t need the training. Is it a way of signaling to prospective families? A welcome sign for diverse families and a “keep away” sign for trumpers?
It’s a short-sighted attempt to “correct thinking” and therefore smacks of Marxism. Have none if you read about Mao and the Culural Revolution ? Of the people who died. The families split up and relocated. It was a horror and it’s taking place right now.
Do you have cites for what is "taking place right now"?
Anonymous
01/25/2022 13:20
Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about the ultimate goal here. The conservative CCC parents won’t attend or won’t take it seriously. The other parents probably don’t need the training. Is it a way of signaling to prospective families? A welcome sign for diverse families and a “keep away” sign for trumpers?
It’s a short-sighted attempt to “correct thinking” and therefore smacks of Marxism. Have none if you read about Mao and the Culural Revolution ? Of the people who died. The families split up and relocated. It was a horror and it’s taking place right now.
Anonymous
01/25/2022 13:17
Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ I'm the PP and I'm saying this as a privileged white person, not a person of color.
Of course you are; you are a Karen who thrives on things like this. Please don't tell me what is a mistake when it comes to raising my kids. You have no idea who I am or what my background is.
For the record, when I say that I am teaching my kids to be colorblind - of course we all "see" color, like I "see" that you are wearing a blue shirt or I can "see" that you are tall. But those traits have nothing more to do with who you are as a person, and the kind of person that you are and whether or not I want to be friends with you, than does the color of your skin. I'm sorry that you still judge, stereotype and categorize people on outward appearances such as this. Perhaps one day you will evolve.
The fact that you are teaching your children colorblindness makes you a racist. Perhaps one day YOU will evolve.
Oh, please explain that one to us. This I can't wait to hear.
+1. I’m waiting to hear too.
Anonymous
01/25/2022 13:05
Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
I’m curious about the ultimate goal here. The conservative CCC parents won’t attend or won’t take it seriously. The other parents probably don’t need the training. Is it a way of signaling to prospective families? A welcome sign for diverse families and a “keep away” sign for trumpers?
Anonymous
01/25/2022 11:02
Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Who are you to train parents in anything? And why does it fall to the school to do this? Why can’t parents talk about these issues with their own children at home, church or synogogue. Why does it have to be a public or private school issue? Many schools are going to have egg on their faces when this hoopla dies down and there is a strong reaction as we’ve already seen with the Salvation Army. I’m not paying a school for this and certainly not to “train” me in this Marxism and I’m not donating my dollars to it either. Scratch St Pat’s off the list.
Guessing you were already scratched.
Anonymous
01/25/2022 10:55
Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ I'm the PP and I'm saying this as a privileged white person, not a person of color.
Of course you are; you are a Karen who thrives on things like this. Please don't tell me what is a mistake when it comes to raising my kids. You have no idea who I am or what my background is.
For the record, when I say that I am teaching my kids to be colorblind - of course we all "see" color, like I "see" that you are wearing a blue shirt or I can "see" that you are tall. But those traits have nothing more to do with who you are as a person, and the kind of person that you are and whether or not I want to be friends with you, than does the color of your skin. I'm sorry that you still judge, stereotype and categorize people on outward appearances such as this. Perhaps one day you will evolve.
The fact that you are teaching your children colorblindness makes you a racist. Perhaps one day YOU will evolve.
Oh, please explain that one to us. This I can't wait to hear.
How about you explain to me why in your opinion teaching colorblindness doesn't perpetuate racism?
Anonymous
01/25/2022 10:54
Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^ I'm the PP and I'm saying this as a privileged white person, not a person of color.
Of course you are; you are a Karen who thrives on things like this. Please don't tell me what is a mistake when it comes to raising my kids. You have no idea who I am or what my background is.
For the record, when I say that I am teaching my kids to be colorblind - of course we all "see" color, like I "see" that you are wearing a blue shirt or I can "see" that you are tall. But those traits have nothing more to do with who you are as a person, and the kind of person that you are and whether or not I want to be friends with you, than does the color of your skin. I'm sorry that you still judge, stereotype and categorize people on outward appearances such as this. Perhaps one day you will evolve.
The fact that you are teaching your children colorblindness makes you a racist. Perhaps one day YOU will evolve.
Oh, please explain that one to us. This I can't wait to hear.
+1 I'm confused. I thought our goal as a society was to become colorblind. I say this as someone who is one of those shades of brown that everyone overlooks.