Anonymous
Post 01/27/2022 09:44     Subject: Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And somehow the change in trends is somehow Biden's fault even though crime was rising under Trump.

And somehow the change in trends is somehow the fault of "liberals in DC government" though there weren't conservatives in charge of DC government when it was lower.


No, but it’s a variety of things that are more attributed to liberals than they are to conservatives. For example the defund the police movement, which is poorly phrased, as people who study the actual proposals understand that they don’t want to actually defund the police but moreso implement policies like using social workers to help overdose cases.

However, it’s hard to deny that there is this movement, two move away from car several punishment, and that’s coming from the left. It’s driven by the desperate in packs in the statistics of who is actually getting arrested and going to jail. The problem is all these policies to make it easier for teens to offend and commit crimes and not go to jail, and all these proposed plans like the youth rehabilitation act and the second chance act and basically doing anything you can not to put people in a position where they were punished harshly or put in jail is actually having the reverse effect and causing more crime.

Then there’s the endless verbal attacks on the police from groups like Black Lives Matter who basically portray the police as this menacing force all the time. That’s simply not the case. This is going to have real reverberation effects in November because a lot of the country is looking at you people who in the face of rice in crime are really doubling down on this week on crime policies. I live in PC and their carjackings are out of control.

Also look at the politicians you were electing, for example in New York City look at that councilmember who praised the killer of those two police recently on Twitter. The democrat socialist lady. I’m too lazy to find her name. People see these things that on the left there is this real reluctance to actually tackle crime because the racial statistics are bad. You will need to clean up your act or you’re going to face losing elections and people are gonna move out of the city it’s because they don’t feel safe. You need to arrest and punish people no matter what they look like. Some people can’t get a free pass because they weren’t raised right or were socioeconomically disadvantaged or whatever for committing violent crime. we can’t just keep lowering the bar to try and promote some kind of miss guided social engineering.


Sorry I was voice dictating from my phone. What I meant is the left is much more interested in moving away from incarceration to this sort of restorative justice type of movement and violent criminals notice this and everyone else notices if you commit crime, and now we have rising crime rates, and now you’re acting like you don’t understand why the rising crime rates are correlated.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2022 09:42     Subject: Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:And somehow the change in trends is somehow Biden's fault even though crime was rising under Trump.

And somehow the change in trends is somehow the fault of "liberals in DC government" though there weren't conservatives in charge of DC government when it was lower.


No, but it’s a variety of things that are more attributed to liberals than they are to conservatives. For example the defund the police movement, which is poorly phrased, as people who study the actual proposals understand that they don’t want to actually defund the police but moreso implement policies like using social workers to help overdose cases.

However, it’s hard to deny that there is this movement, two move away from car several punishment, and that’s coming from the left. It’s driven by the desperate in packs in the statistics of who is actually getting arrested and going to jail. The problem is all these policies to make it easier for teens to offend and commit crimes and not go to jail, and all these proposed plans like the youth rehabilitation act and the second chance act and basically doing anything you can not to put people in a position where they were punished harshly or put in jail is actually having the reverse effect and causing more crime.

Then there’s the endless verbal attacks on the police from groups like Black Lives Matter who basically portray the police as this menacing force all the time. That’s simply not the case. This is going to have real reverberation effects in November because a lot of the country is looking at you people who in the face of rice in crime are really doubling down on this week on crime policies. I live in PC and their carjackings are out of control.

Also look at the politicians you were electing, for example in New York City look at that councilmember who praised the killer of those two police recently on Twitter. The democrat socialist lady. I’m too lazy to find her name. People see these things that on the left there is this real reluctance to actually tackle crime because the racial statistics are bad. You will need to clean up your act or you’re going to face losing elections and people are gonna move out of the city it’s because they don’t feel safe. You need to arrest and punish people no matter what they look like. Some people can’t get a free pass because they weren’t raised right or were socioeconomically disadvantaged or whatever for committing violent crime. we can’t just keep lowering the bar to try and promote some kind of miss guided social engineering.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2022 06:01     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What concerns me is these kids committed armed car jackings. Since DC has the youth rehabilitation act up to age 26 now (!) And gun crimes are routinely oled down, assuming they will be free to do this again and again? I'm following this to see what the upshot is. The kids arrested, WITH a gun, announced by MPD District 2 today we're 14 and 15 I believe... Another decade left to play the system thanks to Charles Allen and his ilk


But these are CHILDREN!!!

Can’t you understand they are young and come from lesser-resources communities?

They are the real victims here.


Luckily, they aren't so poor they can't afford a gun. DC should have a guns for the poor program so that disadvantaged youths have equitable access.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 23:12     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What concerns me is these kids committed armed car jackings. Since DC has the youth rehabilitation act up to age 26 now (!) And gun crimes are routinely oled down, assuming they will be free to do this again and again? I'm following this to see what the upshot is. The kids arrested, WITH a gun, announced by MPD District 2 today we're 14 and 15 I believe... Another decade left to play the system thanks to Charles Allen and his ilk


But these are CHILDREN!!!

Can’t you understand they are young and come from lesser-resources communities?

They are the real victims here.


I hope you are being sarcastic.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 22:59     Subject: Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^ Pretty bad response from Cheh when the data is clear that car jackings and homicides are up significantly. Not a good look to excuse crime.


I remember reading once that to understand where crime really is in a city, look at the homicide rate. That cannot be hidden. But any other crime can be categorized into something less scary or even a non-crime (a robbery is suddenly a "lost item")-- or just never reported.

I don't believe, and I don't think anyone else does, that crime is down in DC. I think people are giving up reporting it or the data is being heavily massaged. For me personally, we have had so many packages stolen in the last 2 years that we just don't report them anymore. What's the point? Package theft is basically de-criminalized in DC. We also had someone steal car parts from us (which rendered the car unusable for a month) and, to this date, we have had no response to inquiries at the station about the case. We had video footage of the crime being committed and offered it, and it was declined.

It's just really concerning to me. There's just a sense general lawlessness that I have never experienced in DC. It's half that it seems like the cops don't want to do their jobs and half that people are starting to view crime as some type of force of nature-- nothing to be done about it, just try to not let it happen to you. And if something does happen to you, it must be your fault or you really should think more about the person who committed the crime.


The progressives usually view crime as just part of daily life in the city. In other words, the blacks just can't help themselves, and we're never going to change that. Let that sink in for a minute.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:53     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What concerns me is these kids committed armed car jackings. Since DC has the youth rehabilitation act up to age 26 now (!) And gun crimes are routinely oled down, assuming they will be free to do this again and again? I'm following this to see what the upshot is. The kids arrested, WITH a gun, announced by MPD District 2 today we're 14 and 15 I believe... Another decade left to play the system thanks to Charles Allen and his ilk



MPD needs to provide stats on how many of these teens are actualy convicted. Arrests are fairly meaningless in DC. the majoirty of arrests, including armed crimes, are likely not to get procescuted. And "kids" are back on street.

That’s not an MPD issue, that is an OAG/Karl Racine issue.


They (OAG/Racine) are absolutely asleep on the job, or worse willfully derelict. The pleading down or dismissing of gun offenses is especially weird in such an "anti gun" city. These kids enjoyed terrorizing people. There is no other word to describe having a gun pointed at you while doing errands in your car. They enjoy disempowering people. No other words for having your car taken from you ciminallly. They should be charged as adults with appropriate consequences OR locked up until 21 with release given consideration with perfect records ,counseling, completion of a GED, apologies/acts of community reparation AND enrollment in college, job training or a job upon release (offer that they applied for in hand). Stand down these terrorists!

It’s 100% willful, but he gets to hide behind the juvenile confidentiality rules to not disclose things like what pleas are being given, what is the sentence ultimately handed down, etc. He is also actively seeking to make it so OAG rather than USAO decides what cases get prosecuted in adult court.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 17:02     Subject: Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:And somehow the change in trends is somehow Biden's fault even though crime was rising under Trump.

And somehow the change in trends is somehow the fault of "liberals in DC government" though there weren't conservatives in charge of DC government when it was lower.


Well, you know - Democrats stupidly blamed Trump for all the violence and rioting in 2020 - as if he had anything at all to do with the various cities in which BLM was protesting. So I guess the current violent trend is indeed Biden's fault - by that "logic."
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 14:45     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:What concerns me is these kids committed armed car jackings. Since DC has the youth rehabilitation act up to age 26 now (!) And gun crimes are routinely oled down, assuming they will be free to do this again and again? I'm following this to see what the upshot is. The kids arrested, WITH a gun, announced by MPD District 2 today we're 14 and 15 I believe... Another decade left to play the system thanks to Charles Allen and his ilk


But these are CHILDREN!!!

Can’t you understand they are young and come from lesser-resources communities?

They are the real victims here.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 14:36     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What concerns me is these kids committed armed car jackings. Since DC has the youth rehabilitation act up to age 26 now (!) And gun crimes are routinely oled down, assuming they will be free to do this again and again? I'm following this to see what the upshot is. The kids arrested, WITH a gun, announced by MPD District 2 today we're 14 and 15 I believe... Another decade left to play the system thanks to Charles Allen and his ilk



MPD needs to provide stats on how many of these teens are actualy convicted. Arrests are fairly meaningless in DC. the majoirty of arrests, including armed crimes, are likely not to get procescuted. And "kids" are back on street.

That’s not an MPD issue, that is an OAG/Karl Racine issue.


They (OAG/Racine) are absolutely asleep on the job, or worse willfully derelict. The pleading down or dismissing of gun offenses is especially weird in such an "anti gun" city. These kids enjoyed terrorizing people. There is no other word to describe having a gun pointed at you while doing errands in your car. They enjoy disempowering people. No other words for having your car taken from you ciminallly. They should be charged as adults with appropriate consequences OR locked up until 21 with release given consideration with perfect records ,counseling, completion of a GED, apologies/acts of community reparation AND enrollment in college, job training or a job upon release (offer that they applied for in hand). Stand down these terrorists!
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 13:12     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What concerns me is these kids committed armed car jackings. Since DC has the youth rehabilitation act up to age 26 now (!) And gun crimes are routinely oled down, assuming they will be free to do this again and again? I'm following this to see what the upshot is. The kids arrested, WITH a gun, announced by MPD District 2 today we're 14 and 15 I believe... Another decade left to play the system thanks to Charles Allen and his ilk



MPD needs to provide stats on how many of these teens are actualy convicted. Arrests are fairly meaningless in DC. the majoirty of arrests, including armed crimes, are likely not to get procescuted. And "kids" are back on street.

That’s not an MPD issue, that is an OAG/Karl Racine issue.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 12:16     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:What concerns me is these kids committed armed car jackings. Since DC has the youth rehabilitation act up to age 26 now (!) And gun crimes are routinely oled down, assuming they will be free to do this again and again? I'm following this to see what the upshot is. The kids arrested, WITH a gun, announced by MPD District 2 today we're 14 and 15 I believe... Another decade left to play the system thanks to Charles Allen and his ilk



MPD needs to provide stats on how many of these teens are actualy convicted. Arrests are fairly meaningless in DC. the majoirty of arrests, including armed crimes, are likely not to get procescuted. And "kids" are back on street.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 11:44     Subject: Another armed carjacking in DC

And somehow the change in trends is somehow Biden's fault even though crime was rising under Trump.

And somehow the change in trends is somehow the fault of "liberals in DC government" though there weren't conservatives in charge of DC government when it was lower.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 10:30     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Carjackings are also up in D.C. MPD shared data with Axios showing there was an 18% increase from 2020 to 2021 and a staggering 153% increase from 2019 to 2020. As of January 20, there had been 37 carjackings in D.C.

In 2021, 49 adults and 100 juveniles were arrested for carjacking. That’s way up from 59 juveniles arrested for carjacking in 2020.


Stupid how he makes it a "Democrat" as if the political party in charge is the cause. It was "Democrat-run" when crime was at all time low too.


And when - exactly - was that?


I know you're trying to be funny, but the answer is that it was at an all time low from the mid 2000s through most of the 2010s.


Really? Link?


I don't know why I am playing into this, but sure. Here is the easily found data that you will probably pick apart and say the crime rates were lower in 1950 so it can't be an ALL TIME LOW.

You can find the annual crime rates here: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/mpd-annual-reports

And because I assume you will not actually go through those despite asking for a link, here's a snapshot of the homicide trends over the last 20 yrs. As you can see, 2012 was a record low. There is a 156% increase in murders when you compare 2012 to 2021.

Source: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance
20-Year Homicide Trend
2021 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012
226 198 166 160 116 135 162 105 104* 88
*The citywide 2013 homicide statistics include the 12 victims of the Washington Navy Yard shooting incident that occurred on September 16, 2013.


2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002
108 132 144 186 181 169 196 198 248 262

Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 05:46     Subject: Re:Another armed carjacking in DC

What concerns me is these kids committed armed car jackings. Since DC has the youth rehabilitation act up to age 26 now (!) And gun crimes are routinely oled down, assuming they will be free to do this again and again? I'm following this to see what the upshot is. The kids arrested, WITH a gun, announced by MPD District 2 today we're 14 and 15 I believe... Another decade left to play the system thanks to Charles Allen and his ilk
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2022 02:09     Subject: Another armed carjacking in DC

Anonymous wrote:We need to get rid of cheh and most of the city council. They do not care about protecting residents. And there is no accountability. Yet we pay sooooo much in taxes. I'm a multi generational dc resident. I am seriously considering moving. What services do we get for our money? Not much. Washington itself is a beautiful city but with tent cities popping up everywhere even that's changing. Makes me very very sad.

+1. We already moved out. Democrats are crushing our once great city of DC.