Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:22
Subject: Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apparently an outlier here also. My three-year-old drinks 2% organic milk. Our pediatrician said to switch from whole milk when she turned two (she was/is 10th percentile for weight so the recommendation was not BMI related). I give her full fat yogurt and cheese.
This is outdated thinking.
I’m a pediatric nurse and every single pediatrician I have worked with recommends this. It is a standard recommendation.
Yes it is standard, probably because of the obesity epidemic with kids and adults. But there is a lot of mounting evidence that kids that drink whole milk are less likely to be obese. They think it is linked to the milk being more satisfying they are less likely to overeat other things that are probably more unhealthy and less nutritious than milk. But until the AAP updates things, they will continue the status quo and recommend low fat milk.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:20
Subject: Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
We use whole milk. None of us are big milk drinkers, but we put it on cereal and in coffee. Sometimes we make chocolate milk or hot chocolate with it. I bake with it here or there. It's rare for any of us to have a glass of milk though.
Skim, 1% and 2% are gross. Whole milk is really about 3.5% and it just TASTES so much better. A bowl of cereal with whole milk is much more satisfying.
It's similar with cheese. Cheese made with 2% just doesn't taste good.
Skim, 1% and 2% are gross. Whole milk is really about 3.5% and it just TASTES so much better. A bowl of cereal with whole milk is much more satisfying.
It's similar with cheese. Cheese made with 2% just doesn't taste good.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:17
Subject: Re:Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:some do and that’s fine if you want them to drink it. But given all the lactose intolerant people we have plus the kids grabbing the choc milk at school and not the regular milk I would still stand by my point.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My now 9yo doesn’t drink any cows milk at all. We drink almond milk in oatmeal, smoothies etc. Look into other sources of calcium, protein, healthy fats. Humans are not designed to drink cows milk which is why a lot of kids just don’t like it. We end up adding chocolate too it just to get them to drink it, makes no sense.
Lots of kids love milk. Does that mean they were meant to drink it? And most kids dislike vegetables. So do many adult! Does that mean we shouldn’t eat them?
I don’t care if people drink milk or not, and there are environmental reasons to avoid cows milk, but this argument makes no sense.
This is OP. I feel torn about this. I’m not a huge fan of dairy as it is supposed to be inflammatory, but we keep no sugar yogurt in the house. But pediatrician did recommend a glass of milk. We do not eat much meat very regularly and we don’t do a lot of heavy carbs - eg we often eat eggs in the morning, but often dinner will be fish or vegetarian with vegetables. I do drizzle extra olive oil. Just thinking a preschooler may need the calories and fat/protein, so thinking of adding milk back.
My kids drink whole milk. Ages 5, 10, 12. They have since age 1. Milk is one of the most complete nutritious things you can give your kids. It is a good source of protein (especially if not eating a lot of meat), fat (which helps vitamin absorption), vitamin D, and calcium. They need all of these things. Especially the calcium and vitamin D, which are usually in much lower concentrations in other foods- and they will eat a smaller quantity if the other foods anyhow.
^same PP. To add, we also eat greek yogurt, but I buy nonfat or lowfat/2% greek yogurt. The fat in yogurt isn't all that beneficial plus there aren't fat soluble vitamins in yogurt. I usually add nuts, chia seeds, or sesame seeds to it so there is fat for satiety but a healthier fat.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 10:13
Subject: Re:Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:some do and that’s fine if you want them to drink it. But given all the lactose intolerant people we have plus the kids grabbing the choc milk at school and not the regular milk I would still stand by my point.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My now 9yo doesn’t drink any cows milk at all. We drink almond milk in oatmeal, smoothies etc. Look into other sources of calcium, protein, healthy fats. Humans are not designed to drink cows milk which is why a lot of kids just don’t like it. We end up adding chocolate too it just to get them to drink it, makes no sense.
Lots of kids love milk. Does that mean they were meant to drink it? And most kids dislike vegetables. So do many adult! Does that mean we shouldn’t eat them?
I don’t care if people drink milk or not, and there are environmental reasons to avoid cows milk, but this argument makes no sense.
This is OP. I feel torn about this. I’m not a huge fan of dairy as it is supposed to be inflammatory, but we keep no sugar yogurt in the house. But pediatrician did recommend a glass of milk. We do not eat much meat very regularly and we don’t do a lot of heavy carbs - eg we often eat eggs in the morning, but often dinner will be fish or vegetarian with vegetables. I do drizzle extra olive oil. Just thinking a preschooler may need the calories and fat/protein, so thinking of adding milk back.
My kids drink whole milk. Ages 5, 10, 12. They have since age 1. Milk is one of the most complete nutritious things you can give your kids. It is a good source of protein (especially if not eating a lot of meat), fat (which helps vitamin absorption), vitamin D, and calcium. They need all of these things. Especially the calcium and vitamin D, which are usually in much lower concentrations in other foods- and they will eat a smaller quantity if the other foods anyhow.
Anonymous
01/20/2022 09:41
Subject: Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Both kids stopped cold drinking milk at about 2.5. Just one day woke up and refused to drink it, and still do almost a decade later. One went back to drinking cocoa but the other still refuses almost all forms of dairy 😭
Anonymous
01/20/2022 02:51
Subject: Re:Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:some do and that’s fine if you want them to drink it. But given all the lactose intolerant people we have plus the kids grabbing the choc milk at school and not the regular milk I would still stand by my point.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My now 9yo doesn’t drink any cows milk at all. We drink almond milk in oatmeal, smoothies etc. Look into other sources of calcium, protein, healthy fats. Humans are not designed to drink cows milk which is why a lot of kids just don’t like it. We end up adding chocolate too it just to get them to drink it, makes no sense.
Lots of kids love milk. Does that mean they were meant to drink it? And most kids dislike vegetables. So do many adult! Does that mean we shouldn’t eat them?
I don’t care if people drink milk or not, and there are environmental reasons to avoid cows milk, but this argument makes no sense.
This is OP. I feel torn about this. I’m not a huge fan of dairy as it is supposed to be inflammatory, but we keep no sugar yogurt in the house. But pediatrician did recommend a glass of milk. We do not eat much meat very regularly and we don’t do a lot of heavy carbs - eg we often eat eggs in the morning, but often dinner will be fish or vegetarian with vegetables. I do drizzle extra olive oil. Just thinking a preschooler may need the calories and fat/protein, so thinking of adding milk back.
Don't give your child an adult's diet. Make an appointment with a child nutritionist asap
We aren't low carb, but I think we eat fewer carbs than the traditional American diet. We try to eat carbs like whole wheat or chickpea pasta, brown rice, oatmeal. And there are times we don't eat a main carb, but just eat something like salmon with stirfry vegetable or something. Sometimes he eats a Little something after dinner, like yogurt or a banana with pb. I'm wondering if those times I should supplement with a glass of whole milk.
What do you mean by an adult’s diet? He eats what we all eat. I’m just saying we eat less meat and less heavy carbs than what’s traditional.
NP. And it sounds like you are low carb - that’s not appropriate for your child.
Again, your diet is not appropriate for your child. Give your kid some brown rice when you have salmon and veggies. There is no need to supplement if you are feeding them properly.
Growing children need carbs in their diet regularly. If you want to skip carbs at a meal as an adult that’s cool. But your kid’s body and brain needs carbs for energy and to stay alert and active during the day, physically. Carbs also help ensure your child is getting enough fiber and has normal, regular BMs. If he’s asking for snacks after dinner it’s because he is HUNGRY and a small piece of fish and some green veggies is clearly not doing it. You can keep things healthy still: whole wheat toast with hummus, black beans with melted cheese, brown rice with chickpeas, etc. as a side dish. But please feed your child foods a child needs for healthy physical and brain development.
Anonymous
01/19/2022 18:22
Subject: Re:Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:some do and that’s fine if you want them to drink it. But given all the lactose intolerant people we have plus the kids grabbing the choc milk at school and not the regular milk I would still stand by my point.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My now 9yo doesn’t drink any cows milk at all. We drink almond milk in oatmeal, smoothies etc. Look into other sources of calcium, protein, healthy fats. Humans are not designed to drink cows milk which is why a lot of kids just don’t like it. We end up adding chocolate too it just to get them to drink it, makes no sense.
Lots of kids love milk. Does that mean they were meant to drink it? And most kids dislike vegetables. So do many adult! Does that mean we shouldn’t eat them?
I don’t care if people drink milk or not, and there are environmental reasons to avoid cows milk, but this argument makes no sense.
This is OP. I feel torn about this. I’m not a huge fan of dairy as it is supposed to be inflammatory, but we keep no sugar yogurt in the house. But pediatrician did recommend a glass of milk. We do not eat much meat very regularly and we don’t do a lot of heavy carbs - eg we often eat eggs in the morning, but often dinner will be fish or vegetarian with vegetables. I do drizzle extra olive oil. Just thinking a preschooler may need the calories and fat/protein, so thinking of adding milk back.
Don't give your child an adult's diet. Make an appointment with a child nutritionist asap
We aren't low carb, but I think we eat fewer carbs than the traditional American diet. We try to eat carbs like whole wheat or chickpea pasta, brown rice, oatmeal. And there are times we don't eat a main carb, but just eat something like salmon with stirfry vegetable or something. Sometimes he eats a Little something after dinner, like yogurt or a banana with pb. I'm wondering if those times I should supplement with a glass of whole milk.
What do you mean by an adult’s diet? He eats what we all eat. I’m just saying we eat less meat and less heavy carbs than what’s traditional.
NP. And it sounds like you are low carb - that’s not appropriate for your child.
Again, your diet is not appropriate for your child. Give your kid some brown rice when you have salmon and veggies. There is no need to supplement if you are feeding them properly.
Anonymous
01/19/2022 18:20
Subject: Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apparently an outlier here also. My three-year-old drinks 2% organic milk. Our pediatrician said to switch from whole milk when she turned two (she was/is 10th percentile for weight so the recommendation was not BMI related). I give her full fat yogurt and cheese.
This is outdated thinking.
It is still the standard pediatric recommendation, so unless or until the American Association of Pediatricians changes their thinking or recommendations, you are the outlier. People are going to do what their ped recommends.
Lol no. No one follows everything their ped recommends. Low fat foods, including milk, are not healthy. Just go with whole milk
But…but…but…her pediatrician said so! Regardless of ALL of the evidence that whole milk is better.
Anonymous
01/19/2022 18:04
Subject: Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apparently an outlier here also. My three-year-old drinks 2% organic milk. Our pediatrician said to switch from whole milk when she turned two (she was/is 10th percentile for weight so the recommendation was not BMI related). I give her full fat yogurt and cheese.
This is outdated thinking.
It is still the standard pediatric recommendation, so unless or until the American Association of Pediatricians changes their thinking or recommendations, you are the outlier. People are going to do what their ped recommends.
Lol no. No one follows everything their ped recommends. Low fat foods, including milk, are not healthy. Just go with whole milk
Anonymous
01/19/2022 17:31
Subject: Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apparently an outlier here also. My three-year-old drinks 2% organic milk. Our pediatrician said to switch from whole milk when she turned two (she was/is 10th percentile for weight so the recommendation was not BMI related). I give her full fat yogurt and cheese.
This is outdated thinking.
I’m a pediatric nurse and every single pediatrician I have worked with recommends this. It is a standard recommendation.
Is this because so many American children are obese? I wonder what the norm is in other countries.
Anonymous
01/19/2022 17:28
Subject: Re:Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:some do and that’s fine if you want them to drink it. But given all the lactose intolerant people we have plus the kids grabbing the choc milk at school and not the regular milk I would still stand by my point.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My now 9yo doesn’t drink any cows milk at all. We drink almond milk in oatmeal, smoothies etc. Look into other sources of calcium, protein, healthy fats. Humans are not designed to drink cows milk which is why a lot of kids just don’t like it. We end up adding chocolate too it just to get them to drink it, makes no sense.
Lots of kids love milk. Does that mean they were meant to drink it? And most kids dislike vegetables. So do many adult! Does that mean we shouldn’t eat them?
I don’t care if people drink milk or not, and there are environmental reasons to avoid cows milk, but this argument makes no sense.
This is OP. I feel torn about this. I’m not a huge fan of dairy as it is supposed to be inflammatory, but we keep no sugar yogurt in the house. But pediatrician did recommend a glass of milk. We do not eat much meat very regularly and we don’t do a lot of heavy carbs - eg we often eat eggs in the morning, but often dinner will be fish or vegetarian with vegetables. I do drizzle extra olive oil. Just thinking a preschooler may need the calories and fat/protein, so thinking of adding milk back.
Don't give your child an adult's diet. Make an appointment with a child nutritionist asap
We aren't low carb, but I think we eat fewer carbs than the traditional American diet. We try to eat carbs like whole wheat or chickpea pasta, brown rice, oatmeal. And there are times we don't eat a main carb, but just eat something like salmon with stirfry vegetable or something. Sometimes he eats a Little something after dinner, like yogurt or a banana with pb. I'm wondering if those times I should supplement with a glass of whole milk.
What do you mean by an adult’s diet? He eats what we all eat. I’m just saying we eat less meat and less heavy carbs than what’s traditional.
NP. And it sounds like you are low carb - that’s not appropriate for your child.
Anonymous
01/19/2022 16:53
Subject: Re:Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
Yes, two cups a day (morning and evening). Organic whole cow milk.
Anonymous
01/19/2022 15:36
Subject: Re:Does your 4-5 year old drink milk? What kind?
1-2 cups of low-fat or whole milk; with unsweetened cacao powder