Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 18:52     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:
Mayo Clonic fired something like 700 employees for being unvaccinated


Good!!


Sure.

Good for the people who need healthcare, but can’t get it because there are not enough nurses, right?

Good for the remaining staff that is already overworked and exhausted, who now have to cover extra shifts, right?

Who cares as long you force everyone to be vaccinated? Way to go, you won.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 18:46     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they want to do this than there should be a requirement that hospitals disclose exactly how many of their workers by occupation are vaccinated. If I have to schedule an elective procedure I should be able to make an informed choice.


Yeah, if you truly cared about the state of the healthcare system, you would probably opt out of any elective procedures during Covid.

But, we get it. You just want to dictate other people’s choices.


Bam. EXACTLY.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 18:15     Subject: Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
I’m vaccinated but I fail to understand why people care if others aren’t. Vaccinated or not, you can transmit covid. Vaccinated or not, you can get omricon. From a fact based perspective, the people we should be mad at are the obese. They are the ones (vaccinated & not) who have bad covid outcomes.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 18:02     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Are the unvaccinated staff also against other vaccines like polio and hepatitis?
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 17:53     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Mayo Clonic fired something like 700 employees for being unvaccinated


Good!!
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 17:47     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they want to do this than there should be a requirement that hospitals disclose exactly how many of their workers by occupation are vaccinated. If I have to schedule an elective procedure I should be able to make an informed choice.


I'd go a step further and say that they should be liable for transmission that occurs in the hospital from their unvaccinated employees


+1
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 17:46     Subject: Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, because who doesn't want to go to the hospital for a non-covid issue and get infected there?


Healthcare professionals worked for months before a vaccine was even available. Patients did not catch Covid at the hospitals. Why? Because healthcare workers wore appropriate PPE. PPE if effective.

The current Covid vaccine mandates are government overreach, especially for this particular shot. I am happy to see more states challenging this nonsense.


Unfortunately, yes, we had people catch covid while in the hospital for non-covid related things. It is still happening.

And PPE, while effect, is never 100% because there's always a margin of user (wearer) error. Many doctors and nurses on the covid floors/wings caught covid.

One fact throughout all of this has remained the same: vaccinated individuals have better outcomes when they get covid than the unvaccinated.

As an MD, I don't care WHY you get vaccinated, only that you do. I don't even care if you get vaccinated in secret and continue loudly opposing the vaccine (I actually have several family members who have done this).



As an MD, would you prefer a short-staffed ER or would you prefer a fully staffed ER, where a small percentage of employees are not vaccinated?
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 17:44     Subject: Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
^do you, not so you
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 16:59     Subject: Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, because who doesn't want to go to the hospital for a non-covid issue and get infected there?


Healthcare professionals worked for months before a vaccine was even available. Patients did not catch Covid at the hospitals. Why? Because healthcare workers wore appropriate PPE. PPE if effective.

The current Covid vaccine mandates are government overreach, especially for this particular shot. I am happy to see more states challenging this nonsense.


Unfortunately, yes, we had people catch covid while in the hospital for non-covid related things. It is still happening.

And PPE, while effect, is never 100% because there's always a margin of user (wearer) error. Many doctors and nurses on the covid floors/wings caught covid.

One fact throughout all of this has remained the same: vaccinated individuals have better outcomes when they get covid than the unvaccinated.

As an MD, I don't care WHY you get vaccinated, only that you do. I don't even care if you get vaccinated in secret and continue loudly opposing the vaccine (I actually have several family members who have done this).



As an MD, so you also want to see booster mandates?

Is there solid data to support mandating boosters?
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 16:58     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:If they want to do this than there should be a requirement that hospitals disclose exactly how many of their workers by occupation are vaccinated. If I have to schedule an elective procedure I should be able to make an informed choice.


Yeah, if you truly cared about the state of the healthcare system, you would probably opt out of any elective procedures during Covid.

But, we get it. You just want to dictate other people’s choices.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 16:44     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they want to do this than there should be a requirement that hospitals disclose exactly how many of their workers by occupation are vaccinated. If I have to schedule an elective procedure I should be able to make an informed choice.


I'd go a step further and say that they should be liable for transmission that occurs in the hospital from their unvaccinated employees


And this is why I think it'll never happen.

Hospitals are held liable when patients get infections while in the hospital. They are also liable when patients fall and get injured while in their care.

The second one happened to a family member after surgery. Post-recovery, they were wheeled to their room and asked to stand & walk to transfer from one bed to another. They fell in the process and broke a bone. They received a very generous settlement from the hospital.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 16:39     Subject: Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Would it matter, though, if the individual organization still requires the vaccination for employment?

When this came out last week, I texted my aunt, who is a high level hospital admin, to ask her thoughts. Her only response back was: for us at (local NOVA hospital), it's a nonissue.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 16:38     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:If they want to do this than there should be a requirement that hospitals disclose exactly how many of their workers by occupation are vaccinated. If I have to schedule an elective procedure I should be able to make an informed choice.


I'd go a step further and say that they should be liable for transmission that occurs in the hospital from their unvaccinated employees
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 16:37     Subject: Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, because who doesn't want to go to the hospital for a non-covid issue and get infected there?


Healthcare professionals worked for months before a vaccine was even available. Patients did not catch Covid at the hospitals. Why? Because healthcare workers wore appropriate PPE. PPE if effective.

The current Covid vaccine mandates are government overreach, especially for this particular shot. I am happy to see more states challenging this nonsense.


Unfortunately, yes, we had people catch covid while in the hospital for non-covid related things. It is still happening.

And PPE, while effect, is never 100% because there's always a margin of user (wearer) error. Many doctors and nurses on the covid floors/wings caught covid.

One fact throughout all of this has remained the same: vaccinated individuals have better outcomes when they get covid than the unvaccinated.

As an MD, I don't care WHY you get vaccinated, only that you do. I don't even care if you get vaccinated in secret and continue loudly opposing the vaccine (I actually have several family members who have done this).

Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 16:26     Subject: Re:Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
If they want to do this than there should be a requirement that hospitals disclose exactly how many of their workers by occupation are vaccinated. If I have to schedule an elective procedure I should be able to make an informed choice.