Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yea it's worse in the DMV. Parents measure their self worth by what colleges their kids go to.
But it starts in kindergarten and I say this without exaggeration. There’s a Race to Nowhere mentality; get DC in the right preschool, then to the almighty base ES that happens to serve as an AAP Center so that kid can be in the AAP program in 2nd grade. Oh - and sports! Get on the right track to “make” travel (and surprise: there are 4 teams! Anyone who can pay can play)! Then you must get specialized one on one coaching for DC, but keep this a secret. Your kids will talk about the cool basketball facility with that coach, but you will not.
Parents, welcome to your new social circle. You will only be friends with the AAP/travel sport parents. It’s from this crowd that you’ll glean info on the right tutor(ing center) for SAT prep. If you fore go the center, again, you will keep the name of your private tutor a secret. It’s like a good babysitter - do NOT share.
And DC will ditch travel sports by 8th. Will not make HS teams. Lost all interest in sports. Might row crew or run track.
And will go to Tech.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Private schools give off the appearance of entitlement and influential parents / enablers. Whether right or wrong. And the “e” word (entitlement) is not a pretty label these days. Employers are looking for inclusivity, not exclusivity these days. This will be more evident within the next 5 years - who would have ever guessed we would have gotten rid of test scores. Grades and essays are next.
What will be the new metrics? I ask this as someone who comes from a family opposing standardized testing for over fifty years. My parents forbade schools from administering them to us. The first one I took was the PSAT.
The new standard is demonstrated inclusivity, whether it’s successfully grinding through and successfully navigating the challenges of public schools, joining or starting clubs that focus on social justice and other community improvements, or demonstrating entrepreneurial spirit through side hustles / new businesses. Students who have been subject to adverse conditions / environment, and then demonstrate perseverance and grittiness in overcoming those obstacles will rise to the top. Those who attend privates, showcase privilege, or follow the herd, will have a harder time. The next 10 years will not follow the last 50 years…save your money on tuition, let your kids fail then overcome in a challenging environment, then package that to the admissions folks. Resumes will replace essays and grades to some extent (pass/fail) and other potential trappings of influence.
This is why 77% of business leaders did not attend a Top 50 undergraduate program. Parents on this board stress about the wrong things and want to try and control the outcomes, based on what worked for them or others in the past. The model for “success” and playing field have changed dramatically and will continue to move in the direction for the good. If it seems like you child gained an edge through influence and privilege (regardless if accurate or not), then they will actually be at a disadvantage. Who knew??!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Private schools give off the appearance of entitlement and influential parents / enablers. Whether right or wrong. And the “e” word (entitlement) is not a pretty label these days. Employers are looking for inclusivity, not exclusivity these days. This will be more evident within the next 5 years - who would have ever guessed we would have gotten rid of test scores. Grades and essays are next.
What will be the new metrics? I ask this as someone who comes from a family opposing standardized testing for over fifty years. My parents forbade schools from administering them to us. The first one I took was the PSAT.
The new standard is demonstrated inclusivity, whether it’s successfully grinding through and successfully navigating the challenges of public schools, joining or starting clubs that focus on social justice and other community improvements, or demonstrating entrepreneurial spirit through side hustles / new businesses. Students who have been subject to adverse conditions / environment, and then demonstrate perseverance and grittiness in overcoming those obstacles will rise to the top. Those who attend privates, showcase privilege, or follow the herd, will have a harder time. The next 10 years will not follow the last 50 years…save your money on tuition, let your kids fail then overcome in a challenging environment, then package that to the admissions folks. Resumes will replace essays and grades to some extent (pass/fail) and other potential trappings of influence.
This is why 77% of business leaders did not attend a Top 50 undergraduate program. Parents on this board stress about the wrong things and want to try and control the outcomes, based on what worked for them or others in the past. The model for “success” and playing field have changed dramatically and will continue to move in the direction for the good. If it seems like you child gained an edge through influence and privilege (regardless if accurate or not), then they will actually be at a disadvantage. Who knew??!
Anonymous wrote:Yea it's worse in the DMV. Parents measure their self worth by what colleges their kids go to.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Private schools give off the appearance of entitlement and influential parents / enablers. Whether right or wrong. And the “e” word (entitlement) is not a pretty label these days. Employers are looking for inclusivity, not exclusivity these days. This will be more evident within the next 5 years - who would have ever guessed we would have gotten rid of test scores. Grades and essays are next.
What will be the new metrics? I ask this as someone who comes from a family opposing standardized testing for over fifty years. My parents forbade schools from administering them to us. The first one I took was the PSAT.
The new standard is demonstrated inclusivity, whether it’s successfully grinding through and successfully navigating the challenges of public schools, joining or starting clubs that focus on social justice and other community improvements, or demonstrating entrepreneurial spirit through side hustles / new businesses. Students who have been subject to adverse conditions / environment, and then demonstrate perseverance and grittiness in overcoming those obstacles will rise to the top. Those who attend privates, showcase privilege, or follow the herd, will have a harder time. The next 10 years will not follow the last 50 years…save your money on tuition, let your kids fail then overcome in a challenging environment, then package that to the admissions folks. Resumes will replace essays and grades to some extent (pass/fail) and other potential trappings of influence.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Private schools give off the appearance of entitlement and influential parents / enablers. Whether right or wrong. And the “e” word (entitlement) is not a pretty label these days. Employers are looking for inclusivity, not exclusivity these days. This will be more evident within the next 5 years - who would have ever guessed we would have gotten rid of test scores. Grades and essays are next.
What will be the new metrics? I ask this as someone who comes from a family opposing standardized testing for over fifty years. My parents forbade schools from administering them to us. The first one I took was the PSAT.
The new standard is demonstrated inclusivity, whether it’s successfully grinding through and successfully navigating the challenges of public schools, joining or starting clubs that focus on social justice and other community improvements, or demonstrating entrepreneurial spirit through side hustles / new businesses. Students who have been subject to adverse conditions / environment, and then demonstrate perseverance and grittiness in overcoming those obstacles will rise to the top. Those who attend privates, showcase privilege, or follow the herd, will have a harder time. The next 10 years will not follow the last 50 years…save your money on tuition, let your kids fail then overcome in a challenging environment, then package that to the admissions folks. Resumes will replace essays and grades to some extent (pass/fail) and other potential trappings of influence.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Private schools give off the appearance of entitlement and influential parents / enablers. Whether right or wrong. And the “e” word (entitlement) is not a pretty label these days. Employers are looking for inclusivity, not exclusivity these days. This will be more evident within the next 5 years - who would have ever guessed we would have gotten rid of test scores. Grades and essays are next.
What will be the new metrics? I ask this as someone who comes from a family opposing standardized testing for over fifty years. My parents forbade schools from administering them to us. The first one I took was the PSAT.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Private schools give off the appearance of entitlement and influential parents / enablers. Whether right or wrong. And the “e” word (entitlement) is not a pretty label these days. Employers are looking for inclusivity, not exclusivity these days. This will be more evident within the next 5 years - who would have ever guessed we would have gotten rid of test scores. Grades and essays are next.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/
Wow…you are lifting the veneer of many folks’ psyche here… does that mean if my goal is a top 25 and I spend all this money on private schools from 4th grade, it’s all for naught? In all seriousness, folks here don’t get that attending a public school actually demonstrates your well-roundedness and resiliency. And it showcases your ability to interact and form lasting relationships across all socio and economic groups. There is no more diverse atmosphere than MCPS, FCPS, and other systems. Inclusivity is a trait desired by many business leaders, and isolating yourself in the bubble of private schools is now being thrown into an unfavorable light. All to get into a Top 25, which studies show 77% of business leaders are not part of that club…mind-blowing!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can be exhausting.
Agreed?
A certain subset of UMC America thinks it matters where you go to college, both career-wise and in finding the "right" spouse.
This is what drives 90% of college obsession.
lol. Where you go to college can matter. The right spouse also matters wherever that person comes from. The idea that it does not matter at all is kind of silly. If you go to an awful college of course you still have the chance to do whatever you want. You have less ways to do it though. You also have more road blocks and roundabouts. Less so from a top school. Of course you can still screw it up but more paths; less roadblocks. UMC parents think this because they see it every day
Right - but it’s not the end-all-be-all that a lot of folks here make it out to be. Unless you are going to a top-50 or bottom 1/3 school, I’d doesn’t really matter all that much - or matter as much as the time, effort, expense, etc. I equate it to the travel sports frenzy that starts at age 10.
There's a difference between Top 10 school and a Top 50
There's really not in terms of outcomes...
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/6/