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Anonymous wrote:When my second grader was the recipient of proselytization, he told them that Jesus was a fib. We had a few conversations about how to gently rebuff with respect for their beliefs.

You aren’t letting your kid make up their own mind about religion and spirituality?

Why do you think our child did not make up his own mind? I don’t see where in my post that I wasn’t.

A second grader has independently examined all the issues and thought through it all, and has made up their mind about “Jesus being a “fib?””

You mean you’ve told your second grader what you think and they have internalized it. And you haven’t taught your second grader respect, either. True “atheists” say “ I do not believe in God.” They don’t tell other people that their chosen religion is a lie.

DP who is not a mind reader and neither is immediate pp. Consider that the kid might think this on his/her own, with or without deep thought on the subject.

Kids do internalize, but they come up with doozies when they try to work it all out too. My DC, when around that age educated me on what he thought happened after you died. People put you in a "dead box" and then ship you to heaven via FedEx or UPS. Then once you are all finished with Heaven, you go to Heaven #2. I didn't ridicule or correct, just kind went "huh, interesting".

Anonymous wrote:I'm trying to learn more about a person I know and their religion. I have concerns with allowing a friendship to develop between our children due to some proselytizing that has begun with my 8 year old DD.


1. They believe in the work of John nelson Darby and their publications were written by someone who followed his teachings. They mention "dispensationalists".
2. They hold Bible meetings on Wed. nights and Sunday mornings. They hold them in a "home church", and will not allow anyone to even step foot inside a church building for any reason.
3. They aren't allowed to have meals with people outside of their faith
4. They aren't allowed to go on vacations
5. They aren't allowed to watch TV
6. Children not allowed to read any books except for a select few non fiction Christian books and any religious publications of which they approve
7. Girls are not allowed to cut their hair
8. No Jewelry besides a watch
9. No Make-up
10. Girls wear head coverings (a doily type thing) at their "meetings"
11. Hold a "special meeting" (their terminology) twice a year
12. Girls are not allowed to wear pants
13. Going to a movie theater is not allowed.
14. Celebrating birthdays, Christmas, Easter, or any other Holiday besides Thanksgiving not allowed
15. Voting not allowed
16. 22 year old daughter not allowed to date.
17. Wife has to ask permission to go out, and has to return at the time her husband tells her to.
18. Wife was not allowed to go visit a sick relative 3 hours away because her husband said no and because she wouldn't be back in time for their Wednesday night "meeting"
19. Women/girls not allowed to speak during meetings, and can only join in hymns
20. The only musical instrument allowed in the home is a piano.
21. They recruit new members for their meetings in some secret way because I asked about how they became friends with one of their "members" who flies in from Iceland twice a year and was told that they place ads or something. I didn't question further because it sounded so unusual and I didn't want to pry anymore.
22. Do not put their kids in school (full disclosure...I homeschool also)


I have tried researching and found information on "Two by Twos" and Plymouth Brethren and those are the two that fit most closely. Or could they just be Christian Fundamentalists....although they sound extreme even by Duggar standards right?

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is seeing this now, PLEASE READ.

I am a member of the Two by Twos. I was raised in it. Thankfully, I am now aware of what it is. A cult. Do not be lured into it. Some mean well, but the majority are just looking for control. There have been numerous sexual assault cases. Women are belittled. It is not the way of God. It is “workers” trying to gain control over people with their ideas. The money scandals are crazy. Don’t be involved. I would advise to tell the young people that is it a cult because most never find out. I only found out by mistake.

Another weird troll, you aren’t a member of anything except the dcum anti-theism troll club.

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Anonymous wrote:When my second grader was the recipient of proselytization, he told them that Jesus was a fib. We had a few conversations about how to gently rebuff with respect for their beliefs.

You aren’t letting your kid make up their own mind about religion and spirituality?

Why do you think our child did not make up his own mind? I don’t see where in my post that I wasn’t.

A second grader has independently examined all the issues and thought through it all, and has made up their mind about “Jesus being a “fib?””

You mean you’ve told your second grader what you think and they have internalized it. And you haven’t taught your second grader respect, either. True “atheists” say “ I do not believe in God.” They don’t tell other people that their chosen religion is a lie.

DP who is not a mind reader and neither is immediate pp. Consider that the kid might think this on his/her own, with or without deep thought on the subject.

Anonymous wrote:If anyone is seeing this now, PLEASE READ.

I am a member of the Two by Twos. I was raised in it. Thankfully, I am now aware of what it is. A cult. Do not be lured into it. Some mean well, but the majority are just looking for control. There have been numerous sexual assault cases. Women are belittled. It is not the way of God. It is “workers” trying to gain control over people with their ideas. The money scandals are crazy. Don’t be involved. I would advise to tell the young people that is it a cult because most never find out. I only found out by mistake.

Anonymous wrote:Op was a troll.

Anonymous wrote:If anyone is seeing this now, PLEASE READ.

I am a member of the Two by Twos. I was raised in it. Thankfully, I am now aware of what it is. A cult. Do not be lured into it. Some mean well, but the majority are just looking for control. There have been numerous sexual assault cases. Women are belittled. It is not the way of God. It is “workers” trying to gain control over people with their ideas. The money scandals are crazy. Don’t be involved. I would advise to tell the young people that is it a cult because most never find out. I only found out by mistake.

Anonymous wrote:If anyone is seeing this now, PLEASE READ.

I am a member of the Two by Twos. I was raised in it. Thankfully, I am now aware of what it is. A cult. Do not be lured into it. Some mean well, but the majority are just looking for control. There have been numerous sexual assault cases. Women are belittled. It is not the way of God. It is “workers” trying to gain control over people with their ideas. The money scandals are crazy. Don’t be involved. I would advise to tell the young people that is it a cult because most never find out. I only found out by mistake.

Anonymous wrote:Op doyou host play dates at your house?