Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 22:33     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.


What a great lesson in how to win friends and influence people. I'm guessing there are no poor performers in your profession?

You should be ashamed at yourself for this post.


You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating for nurses over patient care. If you’re overwhelmed, quit. That might force hospitals to stop accepting unvaccinated COVID patients as they should. But don’t risk people’s lives because you can’t be bothered to pay attention while blaming patients. Nurses are paid as much as they are because it’s a shitty job, literally. But don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur - you want to be respected like a physician, go to med school. Those are the true heroes of this pandemic.


OP here. Case in point, the behavior of the poster above is definitely a contributing factor to nurses leaving the profession. The daily verbal abuse and poor treatment of staff have resulted in a vicious cycle of understaffing, poor morale, etc. That’s all I will say about that. I appreciate all the suggestion so for career changes or different fields of nursing and I’m going to look into this more.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 21:54     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Claims examiner at a state disability determination service...they make medical decisions in social security cases. Long term disability carriers also have claims examiners.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 21:47     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.


What a great lesson in how to win friends and influence people. I'm guessing there are no poor performers in your profession?

You should be ashamed at yourself for this post.


You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating for nurses over patient care. If you’re overwhelmed, quit. That might force hospitals to stop accepting unvaccinated COVID patients as they should. But don’t risk people’s lives because you can’t be bothered to pay attention while blaming patients. Nurses are paid as much as they are because it’s a shitty job, literally. But don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur - you want to be respected like a physician, go to med school. Those are the true heroes of this pandemic.


100% agree! Nurse are the heroes. And not just during the pandemic, but I have some amazing nurses throughout my life that I will never forget for making me feel listened to in hospitals as well as helping me to heal in countless different ways.

NP and not a nurse. Nurses are absolutely heroes of the pandemic. Your post is reprehensible. Why would you pit frontline workers against each other?
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 21:39     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Interesting post. I am actively trying to switch careers into nursing. Been a fed for 23 years and sick of having my soul sucked.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 21:37     Subject: Re:Nurse looking for career change
Look into care management in an outpatient setting.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 21:21     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
I don't know exactly what she does, but my neighbor is a nurse and she is a patient care coordinator for a large network of physicians. She has been working at home doing this for at least the past five years. It pays really well, too.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 16:51     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.


What a great lesson in how to win friends and influence people. I'm guessing there are no poor performers in your profession?

You should be ashamed at yourself for this post.


You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating for nurses over patient care. If you’re overwhelmed, quit. That might force hospitals to stop accepting unvaccinated COVID patients as they should. But don’t risk people’s lives because you can’t be bothered to pay attention while blaming patients. Nurses are paid as much as they are because it’s a shitty job, literally. But don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur - you want to be respected like a physician, go to med school. Those are the true heroes of this pandemic.


NP and not a nurse. Nurses are absolutely heroes of the pandemic. Your post is reprehensible. Why would you pit frontline workers against each other?
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 16:14     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.


What a great lesson in how to win friends and influence people. I'm guessing there are no poor performers in your profession?

You should be ashamed at yourself for this post.


You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating for nurses over patient care. If you’re overwhelmed, quit. That might force hospitals to stop accepting unvaccinated COVID patients as they should. But don’t risk people’s lives because you can’t be bothered to pay attention while blaming patients. Nurses are paid as much as they are because it’s a shitty job, literally. But don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur - you want to be respected like a physician, go to med school. Those are the true heroes of this pandemic.


Wow. Shear lunacy. I'm not a nurse, but I do have respect for them. You're an awful human being.


I respect competent nurses. And the word you're looking for is sheer.


Pedant.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 13:51     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Follow up from PP. I realized I didn't clarify that I'm not white, and that probably factors into my treatment. When my white husband realized he had to stay with me at all times to advocate for me, all of a sudden we were taken very seriously and no one dismissed my concerns.

It's a sad state we live in where Serena Williams is dismissed out of hand..."[s]he walked out of the hospital room so her mother wouldn’t worry and told the nearest nurse, between gasps, that she needed a CT scan with contrast and IV heparin (a blood thinner) right away. The nurse thought her pain medicine might be making her confused. But Serena insisted..."

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/1/11/16879984/serena-williams-childbirth-scare-black-women
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 13:24     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. [/b] My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.

Missed doses of what? A scheduled medication? Frequently? And 14 hours without VS? The hospital sounds like a mess.
Anyway...
Sorry if your OB's staff did not listen to you. But staffing absolutely impacts care. To say otherwise, is just pure ignorance. It's been shown that patient-nurse ratios impact quality of care and unsafe ratios lead to greater mistakes. If a nurse is swamped with patients, the priority goes to the patient (s) who is about to code/is headed for the ICU. Unfortunately, only California has mandated ratios because the hospital lobbyists have shut it down elsewhere. I've read about some of the ratios (especially places like the South) pre/post pandemic and there is no way in hell any nurse can provide decent care under those conditions.


I definitely agree with staffing being a huge issue!!! But these issues have been there long before the pandemic, and when a knowledgable patient gently corrects you, the right thing to do is double-check. If anyone calls out an error I might have made in my line of work, the first thing I do is check - what's the harm? My experience has been that some nurses (the best ones) are more than willing to do this, whereas others are so angry at the world and their patients that they feel disrespected by the query. I fully support mandated patient:nurse ratios.

The hospital I'm referencing is one of the more respected ones in the area, but my experience (and several others' from my peer group) made me realize I honestly think very few patients are reading every lab result, checking times of dosage, etc. I was very young and very sick but also very bored, with a long history of working in my father's office (he's a physician) so can read a chart/understand dosage. 90% of the other patients on my floor were 80+ and not in a great mental state if lucid at all. And yes, missed doses of scheduled medication (I was on IV antibiotics) and the vitals issue required me to be rushed into the IV radiologist for a drain to be placed in my infected wound. Further, with pain meds, my physicians had recommended certain delivery methods rather than IV for specific care-related reasons discussed with me in great detail, and I had two separate nurses attempt to modify the instructions per their own experience. When I was admitted with a clearly infected wound, the admitting nurse refused to let me speak with a treating physician until I had a CT scan to rule out pneumonia, with zero symptoms of pneumonia and a recent surgery. I used to be a patient advocate and was able to circumvent her by asking if she wanted to be personally named in my lawsuit, and voila - turned out I was close to sepsis and did not have pneumonia, nor did hospital policy require such a CT scan prior to treating my clear issue. The CT scan could not have been done for several hours and waiting could have resulted in my death.

The bottom line is that there are good nurses and bad nurses, and some really terrible patients, but there's a lot of hubris among nurses that I do not see with doctors. Listening to patients might alleviate some of the hostility that nurses are facing, though I have never ever been hostile while admitted or under the care of a nurse. It's a lot easier to deal with after the fact when you don't have your life in their hands.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 13:20     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
There are so many options. I like the sales option that pp posted above.
You could go work for an insurance company reviewing claims. Also, my friend worked for a hospice company doing admissions and then quickly moved into management. She now works for a university health center - entirely virtually. She used to do bedside nursing but as soon as she was able to get administrative management experience, she has been able to get one great job after another.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 13:12     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.


What a great lesson in how to win friends and influence people. I'm guessing there are no poor performers in your profession?

You should be ashamed at yourself for this post.


You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating for nurses over patient care. If you’re overwhelmed, quit. That might force hospitals to stop accepting unvaccinated COVID patients as they should. But don’t risk people’s lives because you can’t be bothered to pay attention while blaming patients. Nurses are paid as much as they are because it’s a shitty job, literally. But don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur - you want to be respected like a physician, go to med school. Those are the true heroes of this pandemic.[/quote]

The fact that you think physicians do not make mistakes or put patients' lives at risk shows you really do not know much about healthcare. And everyone deserves respect no matter their role/how prestigious their profession. But I can tell you don't operate that way. "Only the best can keep up" in IT. Girl please.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 13:03     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.

Missed doses of what? A scheduled medication? Frequently? And 14 hours without VS? The hospital sounds like a mess.
Anyway...
Sorry if your OB's staff did not listen to you. But staffing absolutely impacts care. To say otherwise, is just pure ignorance. It's been shown that patient-nurse ratios impact quality of care and unsafe ratios lead to greater mistakes. If a nurse is swamped with patients, the priority goes to the patient (s) who is about to code/is headed for the ICU. Unfortunately, only California has mandated ratios because the hospital lobbyists have shut it down elsewhere. I've read about some of the ratios (especially places like the South) pre/post pandemic and there is no way in hell any nurse can provide decent care under those conditions.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 13:03     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.


What a great lesson in how to win friends and influence people. I'm guessing there are no poor performers in your profession?

You should be ashamed at yourself for this post.


You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating for nurses over patient care. If you’re overwhelmed, quit. That might force hospitals to stop accepting unvaccinated COVID patients as they should. But don’t risk people’s lives because you can’t be bothered to pay attention while blaming patients. Nurses are paid as much as they are because it’s a shitty job, literally. But don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur - you want to be respected like a physician, go to med school. Those are the true heroes of this pandemic.


Wow. Shear lunacy. I'm not a nurse, but I do have respect for them. You're an awful human being.


I respect competent nurses. And the word you're looking for is sheer.
Anonymous
Post 12/27/2021 12:55     Subject: Nurse looking for career change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your pay is maxed out. BSNs don’t really make much more without an additional degree like MSN or something in IT.


I work in cyber security and I can assure you we aren’t hiring nurses looking for a mid-career change without some additional certifications or frankly, crazy hackathon experience. It moves FAST and only the best can keep up.

Public health won’t pay as much as you want and case managers don’t get the same hours. I’d be a travel nurse if I were you. And I’m sorry about the rude patients - but I’d be realistic about that being a staffing issue. Patients are not getting appropriate care because nurses are overwhelmed. You are all making a lot of mistakes, understandably so, but are also unwilling to listen to patients. I’m pregnant and the number of times I’ve had unnecessary blood drawn because the nurse didn’t believe how far along I was when I told her I thought she’d miscalculated is astonishing. I’ve never been rude or honestly cared but it doesn’t make me think particularly highly of the profession. If it were higher stakes I’d be livid.

Prepandemic I was admitted to the hospital for several weeks and literally the nurses missed timing on every single dose. Half of them missed doses entirely. My vitals were not checked in 14 hours once which resulted in major additional complications. So, I’m sympathetic to the overwork but not to general incompetency in the industry.


What a great lesson in how to win friends and influence people. I'm guessing there are no poor performers in your profession?

You should be ashamed at yourself for this post.


You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating for nurses over patient care. If you’re overwhelmed, quit. That might force hospitals to stop accepting unvaccinated COVID patients as they should. But don’t risk people’s lives because you can’t be bothered to pay attention while blaming patients. Nurses are paid as much as they are because it’s a shitty job, literally. But don’t suffer from delusions of grandeur - you want to be respected like a physician, go to med school. Those are the true heroes of this pandemic.


Wow. Shear lunacy. I'm not a nurse, but I do have respect for them. You're an awful human being.