Duke is trash

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of rural LACs don’t hold as much appeal as they did in my day (1980s)- kids today are more used to going out for sushi, good meals, instagramming photos in front of colorful outdoor murals, etc and less want to be in a town where a drive thru McDonalds is the highlight. The Ohio and PA LACs are taking the first hit but eventually may spread to the NE ones, too. It also shows in rising popularity of colleges like Northeastern, Temple, College of Charleston, etc.

My kid seemed drawn to the pace of such backwaters. She gets her fix of Bethesda when she comes home but chose the bucolic as an ideal setting for learning and living stress free in a closed community of like minded young people I think.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke

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+4 especially if we’re talking about DMV interest

Anonymous wrote:UT

Gosh I hope so - great school and would be thrilled if DC got in.

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of rural LACs don’t hold as much appeal as they did in my day (1980s)- kids today are more used to going out for sushi, good meals, instagramming photos in front of colorful outdoor murals, etc and less want to be in a town where a drive thru McDonalds is the highlight. The Ohio and PA LACs are taking the first hit but eventually may spread to the NE ones, too. It also shows in rising popularity of colleges like Northeastern, Temple, College of Charleston, etc.

This was true in our extremely anecdotal experience of 1. Kid wouldn’t even consider the very top LACs for this reason; small cities like Amherst or Claremont were still too small or too isolated.

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They do love their full-pay legacies.

Anonymous wrote:SMU

Really?

Gorgeous women don’t attend anymore?

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William & Mary received a record number of applications last year, so it’s actually becoming more popular, not less.

Anonymous wrote:William and Mary - too expensive, no great careers come out of W&M

This poster must be in a parallel universe! Applications at quality state universities are up everywhere, including at W&M. Also, with test optional wrecking havoc with admissions, W&M is becoming a more popular ED choice in the DMV. As for career outcomes, they have to be considered relative to the majors offered. W&M doesn’t have an engineering program, so those high salaries are absent relative to UVA or VTech. If you compare W&M outcomes to other liberal arts colleges, they are equal or better. Yes, W&M is more expensive than some public schools, but the class sizes and teacher attention is similar to a private school. From that perspective, W@M’s $40k is far below a private school’s $80k, especially for those who don’t qualify for financial aid.

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Anonymous wrote:Rice

...hmmm...no. I'm as liberal you get and I would probably hold my nose and send my DS to Rice if he had even a prayer of getting in. It looks like an absolutely phenomenal school. I wouldn't do that for other Texas schools -- too many good places elsewhere.

Picking schools based on political bias…now that is open-mindedness…I guess UF is out for you too as you don’t want to expose your kids to opposing local views 😀 (in fear that they might actually switch sides?)

Or actually move there after graduation…keep them with like-minded folks instead!

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of rural LACs don’t hold as much appeal as they did in my day (1980s)- kids today are more used to going out for sushi, good meals, instagramming photos in front of colorful outdoor murals, etc and less want to be in a town where a drive thru McDonalds is the highlight. The Ohio and PA LACs are taking the first hit but eventually may spread to the NE ones, too. It also shows in rising popularity of colleges like Northeastern, Temple, College of Charleston, etc.

I know that more and more kids are interested in “walkable” campuses where you don’t need a car, can walk to all daily things and can Uber anywhere else.

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...hmmm...no. I'm as liberal you get and I would probably hold my nose and send my DS to Rice if he had even a prayer of getting in. It looks like an absolutely phenomenal school. I wouldn't do that for other Texas schools -- too many good places elsewhere.

Picking schools based on political bias…now that is open-mindedness…I guess UF is out for you too as you don’t want to expose your kids to opposing local views 😀 (in fear that they might actually switch sides?)

For some historical perspective, take a look at this Life magazine article from 1960 (from another post): https://books.google.com/books?id=ykQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=life+magazine+1960+college+admission+tufts+bowdoin&source=bl&ots=5BKi5WV8SQ&sig=GFl_LycVnJV8AGIXLX2P9kW97I0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sO1TT4uPK-jm0QG8ifC3DQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

Of course, most of the schools listed then are still prestigious/popular now. But there are quite a few that aren't (at least with the DCUM crowd): Antioch, Beloit, Knox, Lawrence, Muhlenberg, Union

There are few schools not listed that are more popular/highly ranked today (reflecting shift in population, culture, "Mad Men" East Coast/Midwest bias of the writer, etc.): UCLA, UCSB, CalTech, WashU, Emory, Carnegie Mellon, UNC, Wake Forest, Davidson, the Claremont schools, etc.