Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sick of the identity politics from Dems and the GOP. Trump was all-in on the nationalism/white/christian junk. Democrats are all now all-into hyper-racialize politics of the Black/White variant.

I'm relatively wealthy, but willing to pay moderately higher taxes. I want police reform, but not defund the police. I want my kids to learn about racism, without hyper-racialize curriculum where everything and anything is racist. Inflation pisses me off. And, I'm sick of seeing my subordinates slack off at work, while I work 50-60 hours a week, as they demand larger and larger pay raises.

I'll either vote Republican or not at all in 2022 and probably 2024. Someone will call me privileged, racist, or something else. Your knee-jerk response is exactly why people like me will cause Biden and co to lose... and lose big.

Turn off Fox.

I’m a different poster, who also voted for Biden, but feels the same.

This identity politics and shouting anyone down who wants to employ objective criticism in policy development, is getting out of hand. What I mean is the push to redefine math education so it’s less rigorous in order to help social engineering and quotas and what not is insane. The push for restorative justice and violence interruptors that don’t work and other lax liberal criminal reform polices over tough on crime policing is stupid. The constant outrage and hyperbole and exasperated language on some many things these days is so annoying. Not every little problem is caused by systemic racism. It’s okay to ask about personal accountability and wanting to be strong on crime in the face of rising murder rates and crime. It’s okay not swallow every single part of this current social justice movement and to both want strong education and safer cities and not be a “racist”. So yes, Dems will lose big because voters will simply and quietly vote for whichever party is less morally rigid. Both sides are shtty in their own ways. Whether it’s religious zealotry on the right or moral absolutism on the left in the form of triggered SJWs yelling at everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:And you don’t think Republicans are a party of identity politics? Here’s just a few Republican talking points:
white replacement theory,
Immigrants Who are both lazy and stealing your jobs, are invading the country
Blue lives matter, all lives matter
Covid came from a Chinese lab
Real Americans

So don’t talk to me about Dems and identity politics.

Well, given that COVID most likely did come from a Chinese lab (even the Biden administration says it's possible, at minimum they don't reject it and officials are divided) what am I to make of the rest of your list?

I do know things like white replacement theory emerged in the last few years as the Democrats turned a blind eye to the shambolic border mess and millions of illegal immigrants and extreme belittling of concepts like All lives matter (why wouldn't all lives matter?). When the Democrats make politics out of racial identities, it follows suit that someone is going to start making "white" into identity politics too. After all, why wouldn't that be a fair thing to do? Or are white people not allowed to have an identity? You can't have one but not the other.

Ah, the old, if you wouldn’t keep making me mad I wouldn’t have to hit you.
You ate repeating white wing talking points totally unaware that you are.

Anonymous wrote:And you don’t think Republicans are a party of identity politics? Here’s just a few Republican talking points:
white replacement theory,
Immigrants Who are both lazy and stealing your jobs, are invading the country
Blue lives matter, all lives matter
Covid came from a Chinese lab
Real Americans

So don’t talk to me about Dems and identity politics.

Well, given that COVID most likely did come from a Chinese lab (even the Biden administration says it's possible, at minimum they don't reject it and officials are divided) what am I to make of the rest of your list?

I do know things like white replacement theory emerged in the last few years as the Democrats turned a blind eye to the shambolic border mess and millions of illegal immigrants and extreme belittling of concepts like All lives matter (why wouldn't all lives matter?). When the Democrats make politics out of racial identities, it follows suit that someone is going to start making "white" into identity politics too. After all, why wouldn't that be a fair thing to do? Or are white people not allowed to have an identity? You can't have one but not the other.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[/b]And, I'm sick of seeing my subordinates slack off at work, while I work 50-60 hours a week, as they demand larger and larger pay raises.[b]

I'll either vote Republican or not at all in 2022 and probably 2024. Someone will call me privileged, racist, or something else. Your knee-jerk response is exactly why people like me will cause Biden and co to lose... and lose big.

Turn off Fox.

I don't watch Fox, but Liberals constant cartoonist view of moderate Republicans is exactly why you will lose in 2022, then blame it on racism/sexism, then lose even more in 2024 before you get your act together.

Why are you working 50-60 hours a week? Either your company is understaffed and You are being taken advantage of, of you work overtime because your pay isn’t enough to support your COL. Just because you believe in working yourself to the bone doesn’t mean that is what healthy people do. What a horrible quality life. I can only imagine the way you treat your “subordinates“ who just want to have a decent quality of life. They’re probably also underpaid and overworked.

And you don’t think Republicans are a party of identity politics? Here’s just a few Republican talking points:
white replacement theory,
Immigrants Who are both lazy and stealing your jobs, are invading the country
Blue lives matter, all lives matter
Covid came from a Chinese lab
Real Americans

So don’t talk to me about Dems and identity politics.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sick of the identity politics from Dems and the GOP. Trump was all-in on the nationalism/white/christian junk. Democrats are all now all-into hyper-racialize politics of the Black/White variant.

I'm relatively wealthy, but willing to pay moderately higher taxes. I want police reform, but not defund the police. I want my kids to learn about racism, without hyper-racialize curriculum where everything and anything is racist. Inflation pisses me off. And, I'm sick of seeing my subordinates slack off at work, while I work 50-60 hours a week, as they demand larger and larger pay raises.

I'll either vote Republican or not at all in 2022 and probably 2024. Someone will call me privileged, racist, or something else. Your knee-jerk response is exactly why people like me will cause Biden and co to lose... and lose big.

Turn off Fox.

I don't watch Fox, but Liberals constant cartoonist view of moderate Republicans is exactly why you will lose in 2022, then blame it on racism/sexism, then lose even more in 2024 before you get your act together.

This is the Republican cartoon view of Democrats. How many House and Senate Democrats have promoted racializing the curriculum and defunding police? 1% if that.

Yet you want to base all of your voting decisions on that completely distorted caricature that Republicans have painted for you?

If you live in or near a major city, which is most of us, you know there's a massive creep of CRT theory into school curriculums, the push to shut down gifted and talented tracks in the name of equity, open talks of rezoning, and in the urban areas, very progressive politicians and organized progressive groups that pushed hard to defund police, and at the same time you see in the papers that police numbers are rapidly declining while crime is shooting up and many cities are seeing record murder rates.

On the national scale, the Democratic party *has* embraced CRT because they don't criticize it, they authorize funding for CRT programs, they promote it in the Federal workplace as part of training.

It does make you wonder if you are a Democrat why would you pretend otherwise? Because isn't that what the Democrats are all about. CRT, 1619, identity politics, national pronoun days and all that. It's a big part of the Democratic identity and the pursuit of the progressive good.

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone be against a four day workweek?

I'm not against it, but I'm also not for the government mandating how businesses should run. It's really up to the discretion of the business managers, not Nancy Pelosi. It's also presumptuous to think they know what would work best for people.

What people need is decent wages. Lower middle class and below parents are often working multiple jobs and this won't change that. Maybe politicians should revisit all the decisions that led to US companies offshoring jobs that used to be done by lower middle class people in Midwestern and Southern states. But instead of doing that, they try to 'other' them by calling them racist, stupid, etc because name calling is easier than fixing their predicament, which was created by the political class (who now mock them).

Why would anyone be against a four day workweek?

Anonymous wrote:I feel like I get soured by the anticapitalist tone among some of the democrats. I am all for social programs and that includes universal health care. But there are a lot of programs pushed by the Democrats that I think are just redistribution of wealth and I am not for that.

Exactly why I am NOT for universal healthcare, at least at the federal level. I do not want Pelosi or Mitch with that kind of money and power lording over people's health and robbing the program for political favors and redistribution purposes. I can't believe people would be happy with whoever is in charge of congress at any given time tinkering with their healthcare all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don't think there is much that dems can do on a federal level to protect access to abortion. And, abortion access is pretty well protected already with very limited threats to it.

I just don't think that dems deliver on.. well anything. They don't expand access to college, they don't expand preK, they don't protect the limited income of the elderly. At a state level, red states are far more likely to have these things.

We stopped voting D in the last election and voted R. Now we are moving from MD to a red state. I've been stunned to learn that not only will our spending power substantially increase, our taxes will decrease, AND the state will kick in for private school and college regardless of our income level. It's fascinating to see the difference in action. All the things that Ds claim they want to provide, they don't, even within their solidly blue states. I mean, who in Maryland is stopping us from having universal preK? Free community College? Etc? Is it all the Republicans here, who make up, what, 25% of the population? No, its that the democrats are not actually focused on these practical issues.

You think the current threats to abortion access are “limited?” How many months have you been sleeping?

And which red states have free Pre-K? Other than for students who qualify for the federal Head Start program? Do list them, because DC and NYC are two places that do and they aren’t run by Republicans. Also, the states that provide free community college are a mix of red and blue. https://thecollegepost.com/free-community-college-states/

I do think they are limited and the recent SCOTUS decision confirms that. Regardless of what the propaganda says, abortion is well supported by a large majority of voters including many Republicans (like me).

Just a quick Google search of state level universal or near-universal PreK: Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma and West Virginia. Florida and Georgia not only have universal preK, they also pay for 4 year degrees for most students. Just Google this and you'll see. There are some blue states with it like NY, Vermont and Wisconsin. For all the $ NY is taxing its residents, universal preK is really the least they can do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sick of the identity politics from Dems and the GOP. Trump was all-in on the nationalism/white/christian junk. Democrats are all now all-into hyper-racialize politics of the Black/White variant.

I'm relatively wealthy, but willing to pay moderately higher taxes. I want police reform, but not defund the police. I want my kids to learn about racism, without hyper-racialize curriculum where everything and anything is racist. Inflation pisses me off. And, I'm sick of seeing my subordinates slack off at work, while I work 50-60 hours a week, as they demand larger and larger pay raises.

I'll either vote Republican or not at all in 2022 and probably 2024. Someone will call me privileged, racist, or something else. Your knee-jerk response is exactly why people like me will cause Biden and co to lose... and lose big.

Turn off Fox.

I don't watch Fox, but Liberals constant cartoonist view of moderate Republicans is exactly why you will lose in 2022, then blame it on racism/sexism, then lose even more in 2024 before you get your act together.

This is the Republican cartoon view of Democrats. How many House and Senate Democrats have promoted racializing the curriculum and defunding police? 1% if that.

Yet you want to base all of your voting decisions on that completely distorted caricature that Republicans have painted for you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sick of the identity politics from Dems and the GOP. Trump was all-in on the nationalism/white/christian junk. Democrats are all now all-into hyper-racialize politics of the Black/White variant.

I'm relatively wealthy, but willing to pay moderately higher taxes. I want police reform, but not defund the police. I want my kids to learn about racism, without hyper-racialize curriculum where everything and anything is racist. Inflation pisses me off. And, I'm sick of seeing my subordinates slack off at work, while I work 50-60 hours a week, as they demand larger and larger pay raises.

I'll either vote Republican or not at all in 2022 and probably 2024. Someone will call me privileged, racist, or something else. Your knee-jerk response is exactly why people like me will cause Biden and co to lose... and lose big.

Turn off Fox.

I don't watch Fox, but Liberals constant cartoonist view of moderate Republicans is exactly why you will lose in 2022, then blame it on racism/sexism, then lose even more in 2024 before you get your act together.

Anonymous wrote:I'm sick of the identity politics from Dems and the GOP. Trump was all-in on the nationalism/white/christian junk. Democrats are all now all-into hyper-racialize politics of the Black/White variant.

I'm relatively wealthy, but willing to pay moderately higher taxes. I want police reform, but not defund the police. I want my kids to learn about racism, without hyper-racialize curriculum where everything and anything is racist. Inflation pisses me off. And, I'm sick of seeing my subordinates slack off at work, while I work 50-60 hours a week, as they demand larger and larger pay raises.

I'll either vote Republican or not at all in 2022 and probably 2024. Someone will call me privileged, racist, or something else. Your knee-jerk response is exactly why people like me will cause Biden and co to lose... and lose big.

Turn off Fox.

Anonymous wrote:NP. I don't think there is much that dems can do on a federal level to protect access to abortion. And, abortion access is pretty well protected already with very limited threats to it.

I just don't think that dems deliver on.. well anything. They don't expand access to college, they don't expand preK, they don't protect the limited income of the elderly. At a state level, red states are far more likely to have these things.

We stopped voting D in the last election and voted R. Now we are moving from MD to a red state. I've been stunned to learn that not only will our spending power substantially increase, our taxes will decrease, AND the state will kick in for private school and college regardless of our income level. It's fascinating to see the difference in action. All the things that Ds claim they want to provide, they don't, even within their solidly blue states. I mean, who in Maryland is stopping us from having universal preK? Free community College? Etc? Is it all the Republicans here, who make up, what, 25% of the population? No, its that the democrats are not actually focused on these practical issues.

You think the current threats to abortion access are “limited?” How many months have you been sleeping?

And which red states have free Pre-K? Other than for students who qualify for the federal Head Start program? Do list them, because DC and NYC are two places that do and they aren’t run by Republicans. Also, the states that provide free community college are a mix of red and blue. https://thecollegepost.com/free-community-college-states/

I'm sick of the identity politics from Dems and the GOP. Trump was all-in on the nationalism/white/christian junk. Democrats are all now all-into hyper-racialize politics of the Black/White variant.

I'm relatively wealthy, but willing to pay moderately higher taxes. I want police reform, but not defund the police. I want my kids to learn about racism, without hyper-racialize curriculum where everything and anything is racist. Inflation pisses me off. And, I'm sick of seeing my subordinates slack off at work, while I work 50-60 hours a week, as they demand larger and larger pay raises.

I'll either vote Republican or not at all in 2022 and probably 2024. Someone will call me privileged, racist, or something else. Your knee-jerk response is exactly why people like me will cause Biden and co to lose... and lose big.