Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 13:15     Subject: Re:Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:He actually said women should not be encouraged into careers they do not want. Basically stop trying to pressure women into STEM just for "women in STEM" credit.

He didnt say they didn't belong there.

He also said that they should recruit more men.

Women don't go into those fields because they are not encouraged to like men are. They are "encouraged" by conservatives to be sahm and go into education and nursing -- ie, gender roles.

If they don't want to go into STEM fields, they don't. Women do have minds of their own.

when is this happening? I am a conservative lawyer and engineer and the only pushback I've ever gotten is from liberals.

by the Boise professor, Proud Boys, religious nuts -- all part of today's R party, and gaining steam.

Liberals support programs that encourage females to go into STEM; they have Emily's List to support women in politics.

This guy is essentially saying we shouldn't have such programs. If you were a recipient of such programs, he's talking about you.

so what. a weirdo in Idaho saying something has no bearing on me. ya'll are so weird.

Oh, so, you were a recipient of these programs. So, yes, he is talking about you. Sure, you can just shrug your shoulders, and say, "so what"? But this is like the "shut door behind me" attitude. You got yours; screw other people.

Nope, the point is...the is ONE GUY'S opinion. I don't agree with him. Opinions are like assholes: everyone has one. You can't go crazy over every opinion you disagree with. Shrugging your shoulders and saying so what IS necessary. Unless there's some sort of evidence that this is anything more than an opinion, what exactly do you suggest I do?
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 13:12     Subject: Re:Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He actually said women should not be encouraged into careers they do not want. Basically stop trying to pressure women into STEM just for "women in STEM" credit.

He didnt say they didn't belong there.

He also said that they should recruit more men.

Women don't go into those fields because they are not encouraged to like men are. They are "encouraged" by conservatives to be sahm and go into education and nursing -- ie, gender roles.

If they don't want to go into STEM fields, they don't. Women do have minds of their own.

when is this happening? I am a conservative lawyer and engineer and the only pushback I've ever gotten is from liberals.

by the Boise professor, Proud Boys, religious nuts -- all part of today's R party, and gaining steam.

Liberals support programs that encourage females to go into STEM; they have Emily's List to support women in politics.

This guy is essentially saying we shouldn't have such programs. If you were a recipient of such programs, he's talking about you.

so what. a weirdo in Idaho saying something has no bearing on me. ya'll are so weird.


He's a weirdo in Idaho speaking at a conservative conference specifically about women's place in conservatism and in the country. You self-identify as a conservative woman, so pretending it has no bearing on you is willful ignorance.

And it's "y'all". In a contraction the apostrophe goes where the letters are missing.

Again, why does what one professor say at one conference in Florida have any bearing on me?
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 13:12     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like they aren't firing him. I wonder how he can possibly grade female students now- it seems like a claim of bias would be open and shut given his statements.


Well he was talking about engineering and medical fields, but he's a political science professor, so it's unlikely he'll be grading people in those fields.

Can a POC professor who teaches about white privilege fairly grade white students?

In his statement, replace "women" with "POC" . I wonder if he secretly thinks the same about POC, as well.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 13:11     Subject: Re:Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He actually said women should not be encouraged into careers they do not want. Basically stop trying to pressure women into STEM just for "women in STEM" credit.

He didnt say they didn't belong there.

He also said that they should recruit more men.

Women don't go into those fields because they are not encouraged to like men are. They are "encouraged" by conservatives to be sahm and go into education and nursing -- ie, gender roles.

If they don't want to go into STEM fields, they don't. Women do have minds of their own.

when is this happening? I am a conservative lawyer and engineer and the only pushback I've ever gotten is from liberals.

by the Boise professor, Proud Boys, religious nuts -- all part of today's R party, and gaining steam.

Liberals support programs that encourage females to go into STEM; they have Emily's List to support women in politics.

This guy is essentially saying we shouldn't have such programs. If you were a recipient of such programs, he's talking about you.

so what. a weirdo in Idaho saying something has no bearing on me. ya'll are so weird.

Oh, so, you were a recipient of these programs. So, yes, he is talking about you. Sure, you can just shrug your shoulders, and say, "so what"? But this is like the "shut door behind me" attitude. You got yours; screw other people.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 13:08     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like they aren't firing him. I wonder how he can possibly grade female students now- it seems like a claim of bias would be open and shut given his statements.


Well he was talking about engineering and medical fields, but he's a political science professor, so it's unlikely he'll be grading people in those fields.

Can a POC professor who teaches about white privilege fairly grade white students?

but a would-be lawyer would take his class. I wonder how many females major in PoliSci/law at that Univ. I certainly wouldn't feel welcome there in those fields.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 13:07     Subject: Re:Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He actually said women should not be encouraged into careers they do not want. Basically stop trying to pressure women into STEM just for "women in STEM" credit.

He didnt say they didn't belong there.

He also said that they should recruit more men.

Women don't go into those fields because they are not encouraged to like men are. They are "encouraged" by conservatives to be sahm and go into education and nursing -- ie, gender roles.

If they don't want to go into STEM fields, they don't. Women do have minds of their own.

when is this happening? I am a conservative lawyer and engineer and the only pushback I've ever gotten is from liberals.

by the Boise professor, Proud Boys, religious nuts -- all part of today's R party, and gaining steam.

Liberals support programs that encourage females to go into STEM; they have Emily's List to support women in politics.

This guy is essentially saying we shouldn't have such programs. If you were a recipient of such programs, he's talking about you.

so what. a weirdo in Idaho saying something has no bearing on me. ya'll are so weird.


He's a weirdo in Idaho speaking at a conservative conference specifically about women's place in conservatism and in the country. You self-identify as a conservative woman, so pretending it has no bearing on you is willful ignorance.

And it's "y'all". In a contraction the apostrophe goes where the letters are missing.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 13:02     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like they aren't firing him. I wonder how he can possibly grade female students now- it seems like a claim of bias would be open and shut given his statements.


Well he was talking about engineering and medical fields, but he's a political science professor, so it's unlikely he'll be grading people in those fields.

Can a POC professor who teaches about white privilege fairly grade white students?


Who cares about fair or unfair, the question is can the university claim he’s unbiased when his grades are challenged. Discriminatory conduct is one of the bases for challenging grades at Boise State
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 12:58     Subject: Re:Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He actually said women should not be encouraged into careers they do not want. Basically stop trying to pressure women into STEM just for "women in STEM" credit.

He didnt say they didn't belong there.

He also said that they should recruit more men.

Women don't go into those fields because they are not encouraged to like men are. They are "encouraged" by conservatives to be sahm and go into education and nursing -- ie, gender roles.

If they don't want to go into STEM fields, they don't. Women do have minds of their own.

when is this happening? I am a conservative lawyer and engineer and the only pushback I've ever gotten is from liberals.

by the Boise professor, Proud Boys, religious nuts -- all part of today's R party, and gaining steam.

Liberals support programs that encourage females to go into STEM; they have Emily's List to support women in politics.

This guy is essentially saying we shouldn't have such programs. If you were a recipient of such programs, he's talking about you.

so what. a weirdo in Idaho saying something has no bearing on me. ya'll are so weird.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 12:46     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He's entitled to his opinions.


His opinions are discriminatory and he's not entitled to keep his job.


Not true.

You're allowed to have discriminatory opinions. So long as you don't actually discriminate.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 12:45     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:It looks like they aren't firing him. I wonder how he can possibly grade female students now- it seems like a claim of bias would be open and shut given his statements.


Well he was talking about engineering and medical fields, but he's a political science professor, so it's unlikely he'll be grading people in those fields.

Can a POC professor who teaches about white privilege fairly grade white students?
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 12:43     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He's entitled to his opinions.


His opinions are discriminatory and he's not entitled to keep his job.


Yes he is. Professors and students alike have academic freedom and the freedom to express their opinions. Boise State is a public university, so they are required to respect an individuals' free speech rights.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 12:38     Subject: Re:Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He actually said women should not be encouraged into careers they do not want. Basically stop trying to pressure women into STEM just for "women in STEM" credit.

He didnt say they didn't belong there.

He also said that they should recruit more men.

Women don't go into those fields because they are not encouraged to like men are. They are "encouraged" by conservatives to be sahm and go into education and nursing -- ie, gender roles.

If they don't want to go into STEM fields, they don't. Women do have minds of their own.

when is this happening? I am a conservative lawyer and engineer and the only pushback I've ever gotten is from liberals.

by the Boise professor, Proud Boys, religious nuts -- all part of today's R party, and gaining steam.

Liberals support programs that encourage females to go into STEM; they have Emily's List to support women in politics.

This guy is essentially saying we shouldn't have such programs. If you were a recipient of such programs, he's talking about you.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 12:34     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:Another man who is mad that his sons may face competition and lose free maid service.

+1 ha
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 12:33     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Another man who is mad that his sons may face competition and lose free maid service.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2021 12:15     Subject: Boise State prof says women don't belong in med, law and engineering

Anonymous wrote:He's entitled to his opinions.


His opinions are discriminatory and he's not entitled to keep his job.