Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 09:14     Subject: Re:Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are not illegally here, they use a legal means of coming to the US, it's called asylum.

The majority are coming to live with family.


Give me a break. Everyone knows what s farcical loophole they're exploiting. What political persecution are they fleeing. More specifically, please explain how one can seek asylum from their country of origin after passing over multiple countries even prior to the getting into the US? We all know they're economic migrants fleeing for economic opportunity. Under no world laws are countries required to let in immigrants who are seeking better economic opportunities. If they want better economic opportunities they can get in line like everyone else at UCIS.


So you don’t understand the law. They are coming to stay with family mostly from countries that had natural disasters, 20% come with a parents death certificate. The majority are coming to stay with family.

You like your cheap pedicure, fresh vegetables picked by immigrants, clean house and Peruvian food though. Looks like our next restaurants will be Guatemalan , can wait.


None of what you described above are flights from political persecution.


Tell me you know nothing about the asylum process without telling me you know nothing about the asylum process.^^^
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 09:10     Subject: Re:Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are not illegally here, they use a legal means of coming to the US, it's called asylum.

The majority are coming to live with family.


Give me a break. Everyone knows what s farcical loophole they're exploiting. What political persecution are they fleeing. More specifically, please explain how one can seek asylum from their country of origin after passing over multiple countries even prior to the getting into the US? We all know they're economic migrants fleeing for economic opportunity. Under no world laws are countries required to let in immigrants who are seeking better economic opportunities. If they want better economic opportunities they can get in line like everyone else at UCIS.


So you don’t understand the law. They are coming to stay with family mostly from countries that had natural disasters, 20% come with a parents death certificate. The majority are coming to stay with family.

You like your cheap pedicure, fresh vegetables picked by immigrants, clean house and Peruvian food though. Looks like our next restaurants will be Guatemalan , can wait.


None of what you described above are flights from political persecution.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:55     Subject: Re:Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are not illegally here, they use a legal means of coming to the US, it's called asylum.

The majority are coming to live with family.


Give me a break. Everyone knows what s farcical loophole they're exploiting. What political persecution are they fleeing. More specifically, please explain how one can seek asylum from their country of origin after passing over multiple countries even prior to the getting into the US? We all know they're economic migrants fleeing for economic opportunity. Under no world laws are countries required to let in immigrants who are seeking better economic opportunities. If they want better economic opportunities they can get in line like everyone else at UCIS.


So you don’t understand the law. They are coming to stay with family mostly from countries that had natural disasters, 20% come with a parents death certificate. The majority are coming to stay with family.

You like your cheap pedicure, fresh vegetables picked by immigrants, clean house and Peruvian food though. Looks like our next restaurants will be Guatemalan , can wait.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:50     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:A lot of these measures, initiatives and policies are driven by politicians wanting to pat themselves on their back. It’s to make them selves and voters feel good about something but not really considering the ramifications and or considering the effects it has on the existing population.

I am not against asylum or taking people in but rather having well-thought-out limits and having a set plan rather than unlimited immigration.


We do have limits. There is no such thing as unlimited immigration.

Our economy relies on a certain # of immigrants, so there is actually a minimum too.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:49     Subject: Re:Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:They are not illegally here, they use a legal means of coming to the US, it's called asylum.

The majority are coming to live with family.


Give me a break. Everyone knows what s farcical loophole they're exploiting. What political persecution are they fleeing. More specifically, please explain how one can seek asylum from their country of origin after passing over multiple countries even prior to the getting into the US? We all know they're economic migrants fleeing for economic opportunity. Under no world laws are countries required to let in immigrants who are seeking better economic opportunities. If they want better economic opportunities they can get in line like everyone else at UCIS.
jsteele
Post 12/01/2021 08:49     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.


Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.


+1

I do have sympathy for these unaccompanied minors but we as a country can’t just keep giving and spending money on immigrants that don’t pay into the tax system. There are kids in terrible situations. We need money to provide more mental health services, supports, remediation in school, free vocational training, free community college, etc. to try to help our own citizens.


So let their parents come. Their parents will pay a higher proportionate share in taxes than most billionaires and will solve the problem we currently have of filling low skilled jobs.



They can come. They've always been allowed to come. Legally. Just like the millions of other immigrants have done by waiting in line with the UCIS. Just like my dad. Just like my wife. No one gets to cut the line just because they feel like it. We are an autonomous country with borders. We have the right like every other country on Earth to regulate immigration. Why democrats can't stand that fact is mind blowing.


Please don't hijack this thread with discussion of illegal immigration. These children are coming through legal avenues and are legal in Montgomery County.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:48     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

A lot of these measures, initiatives and policies are driven by politicians wanting to pat themselves on their back. It’s to make them selves and voters feel good about something but not really considering the ramifications and or considering the effects it has on the existing population.

I am not against asylum or taking people in but rather having well-thought-out limits and having a set plan rather than unlimited immigration.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:40     Subject: Re:Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

They are not illegally here, they use a legal means of coming to the US, it's called asylum.

The majority are coming to live with family.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:32     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Then maybe we should fix the immigration and refugee problem that leads to the children being unaccompanied so that their tax-paying, labor-providing parents come along, too. Seems like a win-win. In addition to not being terrible.


How many parents do you think we should take in? An unlimited number from around the world? Or, perhaps we should have some limits?

Oh, wait! We do have limits. Which is why the US, and every other country in the world, has immigration rules. Unfortunately, some counties and cities have decided to flaunt those rules to protect undocumented immigrants by becoming sanctuary cities/counties.


I always get poo-poo’ed for this comment, but I worked for Montgomery county for 10+ years and they have so many free/super low cost ($10 per visit) health programs for “undocumented” women and children. It is unbelievably easy to register and qualify for these programs.



All taxpayer funded too. They never want to talk about how illegal immigration costs the county tons of money. They constantly spend huge amounts of schools on overcrowding. They want to completely upend our way of life wrt housing because we need more affordable homes. Well maybe we wouldn't have schools with overcrowding if the idiots in the county stopped taking in illegal immigrants and made it so easy for them to stay. Maybe we would have as bad of a supply problem for affordable housing if US citizens didn't have to compete with thousands of illegal immigrants for the same housing. Why should we upend our way of life and demolish our neighborhoods because foreign nationals from other countries come here illegally and strain our housing resources?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:14     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Then maybe we should fix the immigration and refugee problem that leads to the children being unaccompanied so that their tax-paying, labor-providing parents come along, too. Seems like a win-win. In addition to not being terrible.


How many parents do you think we should take in? An unlimited number from around the world? Or, perhaps we should have some limits?

Oh, wait! We do have limits. Which is why the US, and every other country in the world, has immigration rules. Unfortunately, some counties and cities have decided to flaunt those rules to protect undocumented immigrants by becoming sanctuary cities/counties.


I always get poo-poo’ed for this comment, but I worked for Montgomery county for 10+ years and they have so many free/super low cost ($10 per visit) health programs for “undocumented” women and children. It is unbelievably easy to register and qualify for these programs.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:14     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:

How many parents do you think we should take in? An unlimited number from around the world? Or, perhaps we should have some limits?

Oh, wait! We do have limits. Which is why the US, and every other country in the world, has immigration rules. Unfortunately, some counties and cities have decided to flaunt those rules to protect undocumented immigrants by becoming sanctuary cities/counties.


flout
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:06     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Then maybe we should fix the immigration and refugee problem that leads to the children being unaccompanied so that their tax-paying, labor-providing parents come along, too. Seems like a win-win. In addition to not being terrible.


How many parents do you think we should take in? An unlimited number from around the world? Or, perhaps we should have some limits?

Oh, wait! We do have limits. Which is why the US, and every other country in the world, has immigration rules. Unfortunately, some counties and cities have decided to flaunt those rules to protect undocumented immigrants by becoming sanctuary cities/counties.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 08:02     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:Every single person living here had a distant relative immigrate here to get away from some hellish situation back home. Where is your compassion for humanity? I am horrified by the responses and hope you are but a few trolls and not what most of the county thinks/believes.


What a dumb argument. You can say that about almost any group on humans on Earth. Autonomous countries have borders. Every country on Earth is allowed to regulate immigration. Why do you hate it when the USA does it? I bet you look up to all of those Nordic countries, Australia, Germany, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, etc. too. Go lookup and see how difficult it is to migrate to those countries and what it also takes to become a citizen there. Why is the USA way too lax compared to other first world nations? Most everyone from Canada was a migrant at some point. Most people in Australia and New Zealand were migrants at some point. Heck, the Japanese came from China, and the Chinese immigrated from the areas around Vietnam if you wanna go down this rabbit hole. So I guess China, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada should just open their borders and have uncontrolled mass migration because at some point in history they started their country based on migrants. Really, really dumb argument.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 07:55     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.


Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.


+1

I do have sympathy for these unaccompanied minors but we as a country can’t just keep giving and spending money on immigrants that don’t pay into the tax system. There are kids in terrible situations. We need money to provide more mental health services, supports, remediation in school, free vocational training, free community college, etc. to try to help our own citizens.


So let their parents come. Their parents will pay a higher proportionate share in taxes than most billionaires and will solve the problem we currently have of filling low skilled jobs.



They can come. They've always been allowed to come. Legally. Just like the millions of other immigrants have done by waiting in line with the UCIS. Just like my dad. Just like my wife. No one gets to cut the line just because they feel like it. We are an autonomous country with borders. We have the right like every other country on Earth to regulate immigration. Why democrats can't stand that fact is mind blowing.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 07:20     Subject: Montgomery County - unaccompanied children children headlines

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the kids going? Our schools are already overcrowded, classrooms are packed in, not enough teachers. There needs to be a limit as to how many kids we take in.


Adding- these immigrant kids get put into already over crowded schools facing massive issues of their own. These kids aren’t going into Potomac schools. They’re getting funneled into Harmony Hills, And other title 1 schools.


This. As if the schools dont have enough issues of their own..sub shortages that are requiring teachers to teach multiple classes; increase in mental health issues, etc. Absolutely mind boggling.