Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 5 year old kicking a 10 year old is not by itself "end the relationship" behavior.

Your GF's response may be "end the relationship" behavior. Depends on the context.

You said your GF responded that kicks shouldn't break the toe/require crutches. So the important question on which all of this turns: Were crutches in fact required? Was the toe actually broken (or at least severely injured)? Or did you already have crutches in the house, and you and your DS are making a big deal out of a run of the mill kid fight? The way the OP wrote the first post makes me think this isn't as clear as others have assumed.....

This could have played out in one of two ways:

Scenario 1: 5 year old kicks DS, DS is in a lot of pain, goes to doctor, is diagnosed with badly bruised or sprained foot and is prescribed crutches because it is otherwise painful to walk on. OP accuses GF of having a monster for a 5 year old child, and GF gets defensive and (wrongly) claims the injury wasn't a big deal.

Scenario 2: 5 year old kicks DS, DS has a history of being a drama queen and makes a big deal about how he can barely get around, finds old crutches in the house and makes a huge deal about it. OP accuses GF of having a monster for a 5 year old child, and GF says that OP needs to get a grip because the injury (rightly) wasn't a big deal, and GF is on the defensive because she doesn't like her kid being accused of being a monster when it was pretty typical kid stuff.

Scenario 1 means your GF was in the wrong. Scenario 2 means you and your DS are inflexible and drama queens.

I can't tell which one it is from the OP's post, but either seems believable.

+1 Sounds like a drama kiddo to me.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time imagining how a kick from a 5 yo resulted in a broken toe/foot unless there are some significant congenital bone issues going on.

+1

What the hell is wrong with both of you? Not at all important.

Actually it is. OP admitted his kid slammed his foot in a door earlier in the day. That is far more likely to have broken the toe than a kick from a preschooler or kindergartner, but OP is latching onto this far less likely alternative as an excuse to paint the kid as a monster. OP’s lack of honesty on this point calls into question his credibility on everything else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason the 5 year old is out of control is because her mother is allowing it.

Loved, safe, disciplined children with no mental health issues are not out of control.

Is the daughter loved? Does she feel safe? IS she safe? Is she lovingly disciplined? Does she have undisclosed mental health issues?

Other than mental health issues, the remaining issues are a result of good/bad parenting. Are the adults in her life loving, caring, safe? This includes you, OP.

No healthy 5-year old who is getting the love, care, and attention that she needs will be a bad child. They might do bad things occassionally, but they aren't bad children.

What is actually going on here? You calling a 5-year-old out of control makes me think you need to take a look at the whole picture, meaning her mom and dad and you. And anybody her dad might be seeing.

Except mental health issues are incredibly common, not typically diagnosed by age 5, and generally align exactly with the percentage of "bad" kids. 10-15% of kids have ADHD. More have depression and anxiety. So 10-20 % of kids right of the bat have neurodivergences that make them feel out of control in certain situations. And that perfectly aligns with 2 or 3 kids in any elementary class having the "bad" reputation. It's atypical that the issue would be diagnosed by age 5. And these kinds of diagnoses don't make kids monsters. They are just a little outside the curve of what we "expect" or "want" from kids' behavior at that age.

So you can take your "i raised my perfect children because i'm a perfect mom" attitude and shove it.

Anonymous wrote:She's 5 and she's strong enough to break your son's ankle? 🤔 Why am I not believing this story

Anonymous wrote:A 5 year old kicking a 10 year old is not by itself "end the relationship" behavior.

Your GF's response may be "end the relationship" behavior. Depends on the context.

You said your GF responded that kicks shouldn't break the toe/require crutches. So the important question on which all of this turns: Were crutches in fact required? Was the toe actually broken (or at least severely injured)? Or did you already have crutches in the house, and you and your DS are making a big deal out of a run of the mill kid fight? The way the OP wrote the first post makes me think this isn't as clear as others have assumed.....

This could have played out in one of two ways:

Scenario 1: 5 year old kicks DS, DS is in a lot of pain, goes to doctor, is diagnosed with badly bruised or sprained foot and is prescribed crutches because it is otherwise painful to walk on. OP accuses GF of having a monster for a 5 year old child, and GF gets defensive and (wrongly) claims the injury wasn't a big deal.

Scenario 2: 5 year old kicks DS, DS has a history of being a drama queen and makes a big deal about how he can barely get around, finds old crutches in the house and makes a huge deal about it. OP accuses GF of having a monster for a 5 year old child, and GF says that OP needs to get a grip because the injury (rightly) wasn't a big deal, and GF is on the defensive because she doesn't like her kid being accused of being a monster when it was pretty typical kid stuff.

Scenario 1 means your GF was in the wrong. Scenario 2 means you and your DS are inflexible and drama queens.

I can't tell which one it is from the OP's post, but either seems believable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time imagining how a kick from a 5 yo resulted in a broken toe/foot unless there are some significant congenital bone issues going on.

+1

What the hell is wrong with both of you? Not at all important.

Actually it is. OP admitted his kid slammed his foot in a door earlier in the day. That is far more likely to have broken the toe than a kick from a preschooler or kindergartner, but OP is latching onto this far less likely alternative as an excuse to paint the kid as a monster. OP’s lack of honesty on this point calls into question his credibility on everything else.

Anonymous wrote:The mother’s response is worse than her daughter kicking your boy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time imagining how a kick from a 5 yo resulted in a broken toe/foot unless there are some significant congenital bone issues going on.

+1

What the hell is wrong with both of you? Not at all important.

Actually it is. OP admitted his kid slammed his foot in a door earlier in the day. That is far more likely to have broken the toe than a kick from a preschooler or kindergartner, but OP is latching onto this far less likely alternative as an excuse to paint the kid as a monster. OP’s lack of honesty on this point calls into question his credibility on everything else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time imagining how a kick from a 5 yo resulted in a broken toe/foot unless there are some significant congenital bone issues going on.

+1

What the hell is wrong with both of you? Not at all important.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time imagining how a kick from a 5 yo resulted in a broken toe/foot unless there are some significant congenital bone issues going on.

+1

Anonymous wrote:This should not even be a question. Your son is your priority and your job is to protect him. Even from a kick from another kid. Both she and her daughter sound awful

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 5 year old kicking a 10 year old is not by itself "end the relationship" behavior.

Your GF's response may be "end the relationship" behavior. Depends on the context.

You said your GF responded that kicks shouldn't break the toe/require crutches. So the important question on which all of this turns: Were crutches in fact required? Was the toe actually broken (or at least severely injured)? Or did you already have crutches in the house, and you and your DS are making a big deal out of a run of the mill kid fight? The way the OP wrote the first post makes me think this isn't as clear as others have assumed.....

This could have played out in one of two ways:

Scenario 1: 5 year old kicks DS, DS is in a lot of pain, goes to doctor, is diagnosed with badly bruised or sprained foot and is prescribed crutches because it is otherwise painful to walk on. OP accuses GF of having a monster for a 5 year old child, and GF gets defensive and (wrongly) claims the injury wasn't a big deal.

Scenario 2: 5 year old kicks DS, DS has a history of being a drama queen and makes a big deal about how he can barely get around, finds old crutches in the house and makes a huge deal about it. OP accuses GF of having a monster for a 5 year old child, and GF says that OP needs to get a grip because the injury (rightly) wasn't a big deal, and GF is on the defensive because she doesn't like her kid being accused of being a monster when it was pretty typical kid stuff.

Scenario 1 means your GF was in the wrong. Scenario 2 means you and your DS are inflexible and drama queens.

I can't tell which one it is from the OP's post, but either seems believable.

OP here. We went to urgent care. They took x-rays, the pinky toe was broken, and they gave a foot boot and crutches. He also slammed his door on the foot a little before hand, but he says it's from the kicking and I tend to believe him. The kid is out of control.

Ahhhh and the plot gets thicker. You and your DS say the broken toe is from her kicking him. Your GF and her DD say it is from the kicking the door ahead of time. And it's impossible to prove who is right and wrong.

I agree with others above that it seems hard to imagine a 5 year old girl kicking hard enough to break a toe. That said, not impossible. Again, no one will ever know for sure how the toe was broken.

What we can tell is that you HATE this little girl. And sounds like your GF thinks your DS is a whiny brat. That's the only relevant info here. Can you guys get over your dislike of each other's kids and move past this?