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Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

Your child needs additional help. I would be asking for an conference and ask why the scores are showing something so different then what the teacher is saying and what they are going to be doing to address the issues. I worry that some Teachers are trying to present a more pretty picture this year.

My question on the intervention is more if a child has one score that is below expectations but is overall, above the 39th percentile, do they receive intervention in the area that they are below expectations.

I would be pissed if I were you and the school was not offering interventions, your child is screaming for help in the exams. Your concern tells me that you are tracking that there is an issue. I hope that your child has their needs addressed.

DP
I’d keep in mind that this is only one assessment. Is it possible the child is making adequate progress towards IEP goals while at the same time scoring below the 39th percentile? I imagine so.
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DC also failed 2 out of 3 SOLs last Spring even though again, the teachers and IEP progress reports states that DC was doing well for last year and 1st quarter of this year. I'm going to request an IEP meeting. They are either saying DC is doing well so they don't provide additional interventions or the current IEP goals do not reflect areas that DC needs help in.

Why do you even believe the school at this point? Take matters into your own hands and don’t just rely on them. Get your kid a tutor for God’s sake!

You don't know what the parents are doing. You don't know how severe the learning issue is. You don't know what services may or may not have been given last year. So chill out.

I know too many parents who blame the schools for everything but fail to get help outside the school. I hope this isn’t the case. Schools can only do so much.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

Your child needs additional help. I would be asking for an conference and ask why the scores are showing something so different then what the teacher is saying and what they are going to be doing to address the issues. I worry that some Teachers are trying to present a more pretty picture this year.

My question on the intervention is more if a child has one score that is below expectations but is overall, above the 39th percentile, do they receive intervention in the area that they are below expectations.

I would be pissed if I were you and the school was not offering interventions, your child is screaming for help in the exams. Your concern tells me that you are tracking that there is an issue. I hope that your child has their needs addressed.

DP
I’d keep in mind that this is only one assessment. Is it possible the child is making adequate progress towards IEP goals while at the same time scoring below the 39th percentile? I imagine so.
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DC also failed 2 out of 3 SOLs last Spring even though again, the teachers and IEP progress reports states that DC was doing well for last year and 1st quarter of this year. I'm going to request an IEP meeting. They are either saying DC is doing well so they don't provide additional interventions or the current IEP goals do not reflect areas that DC needs help in.

Why do you even believe the school at this point? Take matters into your own hands and don’t just rely on them. Get your kid a tutor for God’s sake!

You don't know what the parents are doing. You don't know how severe the learning issue is. You don't know what services may or may not have been given last year. So chill out.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

Your child needs additional help. I would be asking for an conference and ask why the scores are showing something so different then what the teacher is saying and what they are going to be doing to address the issues. I worry that some Teachers are trying to present a more pretty picture this year.

My question on the intervention is more if a child has one score that is below expectations but is overall, above the 39th percentile, do they receive intervention in the area that they are below expectations.

I would be pissed if I were you and the school was not offering interventions, your child is screaming for help in the exams. Your concern tells me that you are tracking that there is an issue. I hope that your child has their needs addressed.

DP
I’d keep in mind that this is only one assessment. Is it possible the child is making adequate progress towards IEP goals while at the same time scoring below the 39th percentile? I imagine so.
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DC also failed 2 out of 3 SOLs last Spring even though again, the teachers and IEP progress reports states that DC was doing well for last year and 1st quarter of this year. I'm going to request an IEP meeting. They are either saying DC is doing well so they don't provide additional interventions or the current IEP goals do not reflect areas that DC needs help in.

Why do you even believe the school at this point? Take matters into your own hands and don’t just rely on them. Get your kid a tutor for God’s sake!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

Your child needs additional help. I would be asking for an conference and ask why the scores are showing something so different then what the teacher is saying and what they are going to be doing to address the issues. I worry that some Teachers are trying to present a more pretty picture this year.

My question on the intervention is more if a child has one score that is below expectations but is overall, above the 39th percentile, do they receive intervention in the area that they are below expectations.

I would be pissed if I were you and the school was not offering interventions, your child is screaming for help in the exams. Your concern tells me that you are tracking that there is an issue. I hope that your child has their needs addressed.

DP
I’d keep in mind that this is only one assessment. Is it possible the child is making adequate progress towards IEP goals while at the same time scoring below the 39th percentile? I imagine so.
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DC also failed 2 out of 3 SOLs last Spring even though again, the teachers and IEP progress reports states that DC was doing well for last year and 1st quarter of this year. I'm going to request an IEP meeting. They are either saying DC is doing well so they don't provide additional interventions or the current IEP goals do not reflect areas that DC needs help in.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

You know what is awesome? Statistics. So if 39% of kids need intervention- how are they giving 40% (almost half the class) interventions in one on one/small group setting. What is happening with the other 60% of kids. I dont’ get it. Why would a test say that almost half of all children need an intervention? If it is based upon percentages, then it doesn’t even really matter WHAT the actual score is, there will always be 40% of kids that need intervention. That seems weird.

Percentile, not percentage.
It’s unlikely 40% of a class requires remediation.

And the percentiles are nationally normed. I would imagine that there is a smaller percentage of kids below that 39th percentile in FCPS because of the high level of education across the county and, no matter what people think, a strong Public School system. I would also imagine that kids at the very low end are in SPED programs that are receiving some help and have different academic needs based on the degree of their issues. The Gen Ed class is far less likely to have 39% of the kids needing intervention.

No dude- nationally normed includes high income areas where the schools are all UMC too. They are really saying 40% of kids need intervention. The PPs kid was sped and so I guess needs both intervention and sped. And gen Ed classes ha e sped kids and yes if they are doing interventions for kids who score at 40% that is a LOT of kids so most kids will be receiving less time.

It also includes counties that are low SES, impoverished, and with traditionally poor results. It is not normed to kids in FCPS, it is comparing across the entire country. So 40th percentile nationally will be different then the percentile in FCPS, but we only have the national norm.

Admittedly, I am not the best with stats but I would expect a higher percentage of the kids in FCPS to score in the upper percentiles on a nationally normed test due to the education profile of the adults in the area.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

Your child needs additional help. I would be asking for an conference and ask why the scores are showing something so different then what the teacher is saying and what they are going to be doing to address the issues. I worry that some Teachers are trying to present a more pretty picture this year.

My question on the intervention is more if a child has one score that is below expectations but is overall, above the 39th percentile, do they receive intervention in the area that they are below expectations.

I would be pissed if I were you and the school was not offering interventions, your child is screaming for help in the exams. Your concern tells me that you are tracking that there is an issue. I hope that your child has their needs addressed.

DP
I’d keep in mind that this is only one assessment. Is it possible the child is making adequate progress towards IEP goals while at the same time scoring below the 39th percentile? I imagine so.

Oh lord, my 3rd grader is only "approaching expectations" in all of the math categories and in one of the reading categories. I wish we got the full reports and not just this vague one page thing. But it's better than nothing.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

You know what is awesome? Statistics. So if 39% of kids need intervention- how are they giving 40% (almost half the class) interventions in one on one/small group setting. What is happening with the other 60% of kids. I dont’ get it. Why would a test say that almost half of all children need an intervention? If it is based upon percentages, then it doesn’t even really matter WHAT the actual score is, there will always be 40% of kids that need intervention. That seems weird.

Percentile, not percentage.
It’s unlikely 40% of a class requires remediation.

And the percentiles are nationally normed. I would imagine that there is a smaller percentage of kids below that 39th percentile in FCPS because of the high level of education across the county and, no matter what people think, a strong Public School system. I would also imagine that kids at the very low end are in SPED programs that are receiving some help and have different academic needs based on the degree of their issues. The Gen Ed class is far less likely to have 39% of the kids needing intervention.

No dude- nationally normed includes high income areas where the schools are all UMC too. They are really saying 40% of kids need intervention. The PPs kid was sped and so I guess needs both intervention and sped. And gen Ed classes ha e sped kids and yes if they are doing interventions for kids who score at 40% that is a LOT of kids so most kids will be receiving less time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

You know what is awesome? Statistics. So if 39% of kids need intervention- how are they giving 40% (almost half the class) interventions in one on one/small group setting. What is happening with the other 60% of kids. I dont’ get it. Why would a test say that almost half of all children need an intervention? If it is based upon percentages, then it doesn’t even really matter WHAT the actual score is, there will always be 40% of kids that need intervention. That seems weird.

Percentile, not percentage.
It’s unlikely 40% of a class requires remediation.

If your score is in the 40th percentile you scored better than 40% of people taking the test. So that would mean 40% of the grade level did worse than you which would mean 40% of kids need intervention. Percentile is a way to rank scores.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

You know what is awesome? Statistics. So if 39% of kids need intervention- how are they giving 40% (almost half the class) interventions in one on one/small group setting. What is happening with the other 60% of kids. I dont’ get it. Why would a test say that almost half of all children need an intervention? If it is based upon percentages, then it doesn’t even really matter WHAT the actual score is, there will always be 40% of kids that need intervention. That seems weird.

Percentile, not percentage.
It’s unlikely 40% of a class requires remediation.

And the percentiles are nationally normed. I would imagine that there is a smaller percentage of kids below that 39th percentile in FCPS because of the high level of education across the county and, no matter what people think, a strong Public School system. I would also imagine that kids at the very low end are in SPED programs that are receiving some help and have different academic needs based on the degree of their issues. The Gen Ed class is far less likely to have 39% of the kids needing intervention.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

Your child needs additional help. I would be asking for an conference and ask why the scores are showing something so different then what the teacher is saying and what they are going to be doing to address the issues. I worry that some Teachers are trying to present a more pretty picture this year.

My question on the intervention is more if a child has one score that is below expectations but is overall, above the 39th percentile, do they receive intervention in the area that they are below expectations.

I would be pissed if I were you and the school was not offering interventions, your child is screaming for help in the exams. Your concern tells me that you are tracking that there is an issue. I hope that your child has their needs addressed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

You know what is awesome? Statistics. So if 39% of kids need intervention- how are they giving 40% (almost half the class) interventions in one on one/small group setting. What is happening with the other 60% of kids. I dont’ get it. Why would a test say that almost half of all children need an intervention? If it is based upon percentages, then it doesn’t even really matter WHAT the actual score is, there will always be 40% of kids that need intervention. That seems weird.

Percentile, not percentage.
It’s unlikely 40% of a class requires remediation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

You know what is awesome? Statistics. So if 39% of kids need intervention- how are they giving 40% (almost half the class) interventions in one on one/small group setting. What is happening with the other 60% of kids. I dont’ get it. Why would a test say that almost half of all children need an intervention? If it is based upon percentages, then it doesn’t even really matter WHAT the actual score is, there will always be 40% of kids that need intervention. That seems weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?

What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?

DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.

Anonymous wrote:My 4th grader is 94 in reading and 74 in math and I wonder what this means. Should I be concerned about the math score? Or is it good? Should I contact his teacher next week about it or is that just silly?

I would look at the score breakdown. Is there any place that your child is below expectations. If you look at the full sheet, they are comparing kids to where they expect them to be at the end of the school year. Most kids should be in the average range because most humans are average. A 74th percentile means your kid is on grade level and is where they should be. After last years shock to the educational system, that is not a bad place to be.

I would not be happy with that spread in scores. I understand that kids have strengths and weaknesses but a 20 point spread (or how ever you word that for percentiles) would make me nervous. That said, school being virtual last year might have impacted your child's math knowledge more than their reading and they could catch up in the math this year. There is nothing wrong with contacting the Teacher and seeing if there is anything you can do to support your child's learning at home.

DH is suggesting that we wait for Spring scores to see where DS is, he has one are that is below expectation, to see if it is a persistent problem or left over from virtual teaching. I am probably contacting the Teacher after Thanksgiving to find out what I can do to help strengthen the area my child was struggling in.