Nope.

I don't socialize with people who choose to decline life-saving vaccinations.

It's both out of self-interest and principle:

1. Self-interest because unvaccinated people transmit Covid much more than vaccinated people, and they can therefore infect my family. Even though vaccinated people generally have a good outcome with Covid, sometimes they don't, so I don't want to take that risk.

2. These unvaccinated-by-choice put vulnerable people at risk in their community, by going about their daily lives and interacting with all sorts of people who may be elderly or immuno-compromised, or healthy but who can then catch Covid from them and transmit it to other vulnerable people. This is the very definition of unsafe practices during a pandemic.

So no. It's both a medical and moral decision.

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Anonymous wrote:at this point in the pandemic, do you really still need to crowdsource this? you're either comfortable or not. if you are comfortable, don't decline. if you're not comfortable, decline.

Well, yes, there are still awkward issues in going forward. Pandemic is not over.

Yes it is. Venture outside of DC. It’s over. Sorry to tell you

No, it’s not. The actual experts will let us know when it becomes endemic, not you because you’re OMG SOOOOO SUPER SUPER SICK OF COVID!!!!

Not waiting for some “expert” and their opinion. They lost all credibility a long time ago. It’s over. Face facts.

I wouldn’t do it this year. Yes everyone in your family will be vaccinated but you’re more likely to catch it from an unvaccinated person. There is likely to be a holiday surge because there are still so many unvaccinated scum running around. If you get a breakthrough case from hanging out with them, it puts you back into quarantining. I have vaccinated teens and the last thing they need is a week away from school.

Your husband should ask them. They may be anti vax but may have gotten it anyway because of mandates.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:at this point in the pandemic, do you really still need to crowdsource this? you're either comfortable or not. if you are comfortable, don't decline. if you're not comfortable, decline.

Well, yes, there are still awkward issues in going forward. Pandemic is not over.

Yes it is. Venture outside of DC. It’s over. Sorry to tell you

No, it’s not. The actual experts will let us know when it becomes endemic, not you because you’re OMG SOOOOO SUPER SUPER SICK OF COVID!!!!

I'm not sure that you have a good grasp on what it means for a disease to be endemic, or when it is safe to leave home.

There are multiple studies that show natural immunity is much more durable than the vaccines that (insanely) lose effectiveness after 6 months (a joke). The cdc refuses to study this data set on natural immunity even though they have the information to do so because it goes against the narrative that all the sheep in this thread are slurping. If you are vaccinated, what are you worried about? Just go and have fun and get the bug out your butt (I’m vaccinated btw but not a fascist)

Anonymous wrote:I’m with your husband. I’ve lost all respect for the anti-vaxxers, including the ones in my family. But to be honest, I never really enjoyed their company much to begin with. So maybe that’s part of where he’s coming from?

This! It’s a good way to weed people out. Including loser family members.

Just say no!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:at this point in the pandemic, do you really still need to crowdsource this? you're either comfortable or not. if you are comfortable, don't decline. if you're not comfortable, decline.

Well, yes, there are still awkward issues in going forward. Pandemic is not over.

Yes it is. Venture outside of DC. It’s over. Sorry to tell you

No, it’s not. The actual experts will let us know when it becomes endemic, not you because you’re OMG SOOOOO SUPER SUPER SICK OF COVID!!!!

Anonymous wrote:Where does it end? Are you going to start asking people about boosters, when they got their last shot and waning immunity? We are vaccinated and my youngest already had her first dose last week. My sister has decided not to vaccinate her kids. One is under 12 and one is over. They don’t live locally, but we will still get together and socialize with them like normal. My kids eat lunch with other unvaccinated kids in the cafeteria every day. It’s not different.

Quoting myself here. I’m sick of people making this political. DH and I are Republicans. We vaccinated our kids and ourselves the first chance we could. My sister and BIL and very left leaning Democrats. They will not vax their kids and we’re not in a hurry to get themselves vaccinated. All 4 of us work in person.

Yes, decline, and dint feel one iota of guilt about it. It’s the consequence of their stupid choice.

Where does it end? Are you going to start asking people about boosters, when they got their last shot and waning immunity? We are vaccinated and my youngest already had her first dose last week. My sister has decided not to vaccinate her kids. One is under 12 and one is over. They don’t live locally, but we will still get together and socialize with them like normal. My kids eat lunch with other unvaccinated kids in the cafeteria every day. It’s not different.

What would be the point of "asking them point blank" if they've been vaccinated?
You already know the answer. They're not. Your Dh wants to do that so he can start an argument.

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Anonymous wrote:If you otherwise enjoy their company and think you will have a good time then still go. I have a good friend who supports trump and is anti the vaccine. We both know where we stand snd have managed to stay friends. We talk about other things, mainly to do with kids. If I was only friends with people who believed in the same things I did I would have a very small circle of friends ( I am anti dog breeding, factory farming, I’m pro choice, etc etc)

Not really the same. These anti vaxxers and Trumpers have really been sucked into a cult like mentality which is becoming dangerous on a number of levels. Secondly, being unvaccinated increases odds of everyone being infected. I feel they made their choice not to see people if they won't vaccinate.

Not true at all. Someone else’s vaccination status does not affect me, as a fully vaccinated person.

Anonymous wrote:At this point since your whole family is vaccinated, this isn't a medical or public health issue for your family, it's a political one. Do you want to cut ties with your brother because he has a different stance then you? How much does your relationship mean to you?

This is the real question. I don't think your family is at high risk now that you are all vaccinated. At a certain point, we all need to move forward with our lives knowing that there will likely always be a risk that may get COVID but at least you have done all you can to protect yourself from getting severely ill. I have a cousin who is anti-vaxx/pro-Trump and is refusing to allow even her adult children to get vaccinated (unless they want to move out). She wanted her younger kids to be homeschooled because she was that anti-mask and they begged her to let them go to school. Her mom (my aunt) has pretty severe health issues--no way she would have survived COVID. She is vaxxed but even before then, my cousin had no intention of getting vaccinated and was not social distancing from her at all. Yes, my aunt should have stayed away but when you aren't healthy and she is the mother to the only grandkids, she didn't want to stop seeing them for a year or more. For my cousin, it was more about free childcare and dumping her kids with my aunt for the weekend to go party.

I hate my cousin for putting my aunt in that position. At this point, even if she did get the vaccine, I don't know if want to be around her.