Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 08:56     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.


I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.


+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.


Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.


McAuliffe was already a governor once. Given the attention span of most voters, that kind of name recognition by itself is often enough to get a big win. The fact that it was even close, let alone a loss for McAuliffe, says that a lot of people weren't exactly thrilled with McAuliffe. It was a blow-out, for all practical purposes.


Donald, is the you?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 08:55     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.


I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.


+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.


Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Democrats blew an easy win with a well known candidate in a state that was sharply trending blue a year ago. But it's okay. I don't expect most Democrats to understand how much they are alienating the middle until after they lose in 2024, hopefully not to Trump.


From day one, no one thought McAuliffe would be an easy win this year. You are rewriting history.

You can get an idea of what people thought from predictit's 90 day chart
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7001/Which-party-will-win-the-2021-Virginia-gubernatorial-election

McAuliffe was the heavy favorite (and leading in the polls) until the last week or two.

But at this point, I am not surprised at progressives trying to rewrite history so that they don't have to change course.


Thinking someone is more likely to win isn’t the same thing as saying it would be an easy win. If you thinking the most likely scenario is candidate A winning by 1.2 points, then you can, at the same time, believe A will win but that it will be a close race and therefore not “easy.”

This is why the implications of polling and statistical analysis is lost on so many laypeople. Odds of winning and magnitude of lead are not the same thing.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 08:51     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.


I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.


+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.


Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Democrats blew an easy win with a well known candidate in a state that was sharply trending blue a year ago. But it's okay. I don't expect most Democrats to understand how much they are alienating the middle until after they lose in 2024, hopefully not to Trump.


From day one, no one thought McAuliffe would be an easy win this year. You are rewriting history.

You can get an idea of what people thought from predictit's 90 day chart
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7001/Which-party-will-win-the-2021-Virginia-gubernatorial-election

McAuliffe was the heavy favorite (and leading in the polls) until the last week or two.

But at this point, I am not surprised at progressives trying to rewrite history so that they don't have to change course.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 08:45     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

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Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Where's the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.


And now deriding us as racist Karens because we have complained about school closure, learning loss, and the mental health impact of the past 18 months on our kids. My complaints about the schools are not invalid simply because I am a suburban mom, but I guess we aren't allowed to have a voice anymore. For all you woke folks, think about the sexism inherent in that.


Where are you being called “racist Karen” because you complained about school closures?

PP is mixing up her buzzwords. Almost as if she uses the reflexively rather than with a true understanding of what they mean.


That is sure how it sounds.

Wait - why are we so angry? what are we being victimized for again?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 08:44     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.


I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.


+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.


Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Democrats blew an easy win with a well known candidate in a state that was sharply trending blue a year ago. But it's okay. I don't expect most Democrats to understand how much they are alienating the middle until after they lose in 2024, hopefully not to Trump.


From day one, no one thought McAuliffe would be an easy win this year. You are rewriting history.


The plethora of political experts on DCUM with the “Yawn” and +8 T-Mac predictions or whatever sure did!
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 08:40     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Come on now, you aren't seeing alllllllll of the sexism inherent in deriding women who were 1) disproportionately hurt in terms of employment and well-being by school closures, 2) pushing for faster school reopening because they felt their children were being hurt by the closures?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 07:54     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Where are you being called “racist Karen” because you complained about school closures?

PP is mixing up her buzzwords. Almost as if she uses the reflexively rather than with a true understanding of what they mean.


Have you been on Twitter lately? Yes, this is absolutely a thing.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 07:20     Subject: Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:It's pretty easy.

Youngkin played the aw-shucks southern gentlemen while the right wing echo chamber pounded CRT and other BS through its media outlets and social media promotion.


Yes, make up a fake issue (CRT) that will bring the citizens out with their pitchforks. They will get caught up in the fever and disconnect their brains. They will vote to stop the fake issue.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 07:17     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

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Anonymous wrote:
Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Where's the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.


And now deriding us as racist Karens because we have complained about school closure, learning loss, and the mental health impact of the past 18 months on our kids. My complaints about the schools are not invalid simply because I am a suburban mom, but I guess we aren't allowed to have a voice anymore. For all you woke folks, think about the sexism inherent in that.


Where are you being called “racist Karen” because you complained about school closures?

PP is mixing up her buzzwords. Almost as if she uses the reflexively rather than with a true understanding of what they mean.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 07:15     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Where's the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.


And now deriding us as racist Karens because we have complained about school closure, learning loss, and the mental health impact of the past 18 months on our kids. My complaints about the schools are not invalid simply because I am a suburban mom, but I guess we aren't allowed to have a voice anymore. For all you woke folks, think about the sexism inherent in that.


Where are you being called “racist Karen” because you complained about school closures?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 06:56     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Where's the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.


And now deriding us as racist Karens because we have complained about school closure, learning loss, and the mental health impact of the past 18 months on our kids. My complaints about the schools are not invalid simply because I am a suburban mom, but I guess we aren't allowed to have a voice anymore. For all you woke folks, think about the sexism inherent in that.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 06:56     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.


I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.


+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.


You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔


And there’s the race card on cue. A lot of what the Dems have done makes it hard to believe they support brown children. The messaging is that those kids are too dumb to succeed so we’ll lower the bars and demoralizes the kids. When my kids was in first grade he came home telling me that all the positivity project type stuff was done because teachers don’t think he and his schoolmates can get into college. SMH.


FYI - making CRT a main pillar of your campaign is playing the race card & stoking identity politics. Youngkin still ran a Southern Strategy campaign.


+1
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 06:39     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.


I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.


+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.


You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔


And there’s the race card on cue. A lot of what the Dems have done makes it hard to believe they support brown children. The messaging is that those kids are too dumb to succeed so we’ll lower the bars and demoralizes the kids. When my kids was in first grade he came home telling me that all the positivity project type stuff was done because teachers don’t think he and his schoolmates can get into college. SMH.


FYI - making CRT a main pillar of your campaign is playing the race card & stoking identity politics. Youngkin still ran a Southern Strategy campaign.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 06:23     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.


I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.


+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.


You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔


And there’s the race card on cue. A lot of what the Dems have done makes it hard to believe they support brown children. The messaging is that those kids are too dumb to succeed so we’ll lower the bars and demoralizes the kids. When my kids was in first grade he came home telling me that all the positivity project type stuff was done because teachers don’t think he and his schoolmates can get into college. SMH.


Didn’t happen.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 06:08     Subject: Re:Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.


I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.


+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.


You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔


And there’s the race card on cue. A lot of what the Dems have done makes it hard to believe they support brown children. The messaging is that those kids are too dumb to succeed so we’ll lower the bars and demoralizes the kids. When my kids was in first grade he came home telling me that all the positivity project type stuff was done because teachers don’t think he and his schoolmates can get into college. SMH.


They won't be able to get a government ID either, so they will never be able to vote.