Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Usually winter futsal (and summer leagues/etc) during the off season are not club oriented so running to the club as one poster recommended doesn't do any good. In my experience, parents form teams of 7-8 kids to form futsal teams. It can be based on friends or the best players. Not everyone is asked. If your kid wasn't asked, it means one of two things...he's not in the social circles and/or he isn't good enough. There isn't much more too it and, yes, it's very normal in human behavior....for example...who gets invited to birthday parties and who doesn't.
That is actually not accurate. My son is 15 now, but when he was around 7yo yo to when he was 11yo I put together 3v3 teams, winter leage teams, weekend tournament teams, and summer league teams. I started doing this after I saw the parents of a team he was a part of didn't want to take a leadership role in putting a team in a winter league and the club wasn't doing anything over the winter. I stepped up, enrolled the players that wanted to play, paid the registration fee myself and asked for reimbursement, sent out emails, a few outdoor training sessions, and coached the team for all games. It was great when they won and sucked when they lost.
I recall for one tournament I had asked 12 players to come, and when a 13th player and his parent asked, I had to say no because the games were 7v7, saying yes to that player would mean diminished minutes for all. Thus does happen.
I will be completely honest and say that I started doing this because DS had friends on another outdoor team, and they had registered and didn't invite my DS. My DS did feel excluded but he also just wanted to play. My DS is not a great player, but he also is not the worst.
If your DC wants to play over winter/summer, and he isn't one of the top players, you're going to have to take a larger role in these kinds of activities or just get over it and enroll your DC in another sport. Waiting on the sideline to be asked to dance won't work.
Anonymous wrote:Usually winter futsal (and summer leagues/etc) during the off season are not club oriented so running to the club as one poster recommended doesn't do any good. In my experience, parents form teams of 7-8 kids to form futsal teams. It can be based on friends or the best players. Not everyone is asked. If your kid wasn't asked, it means one of two things...he's not in the social circles and/or he isn't good enough. There isn't much more too it and, yes, it's very normal in human behavior....for example...who gets invited to birthday parties and who doesn't.
Actually most likely around the same number that don't play soccer/futsal during the winter and play another sport. Most futsal teams hardly even train. How many days a week do you think most futsal teams train?...and pretty much zero kids burnout doing things they are good at and enjoy. I'm still waiting for my kids to burn out from using their phones, Xbox, and/or PS4.
Most kids on these teams are not doing futsal during the winter. Only the people selling you futsal are making this claim.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honestly, these kids are all overtraining, so I'd be glad for the season off and find something else for your kid to do over the winter. He could play rec basketball or take tennis lessons or just enjoy some down time.
Take note of what all the top kids (MLS and ECNL kids) are doing this winter. Plenty add a sport in the winter but most do futsal, indoor, or something soccer related.
And how many of these "top kids" will be injured in the next year or two from overtraining? Or just burn out from never taking a break?
Actually most likely around the same number that don't play soccer/futsal during the winter and play another sport. Most futsal teams hardly even train. How many days a week do you think most futsal teams train?...and pretty much zero kids burnout doing things they are good at and enjoy. I'm still waiting for my kids to burn out from using their phones, Xbox, and/or PS4.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honestly, these kids are all overtraining, so I'd be glad for the season off and find something else for your kid to do over the winter. He could play rec basketball or take tennis lessons or just enjoy some down time.
Take note of what all the top kids (MLS and ECNL kids) are doing this winter. Plenty add a sport in the winter but most do futsal, indoor, or something soccer related.
And how many of these "top kids" will be injured in the next year or two from overtraining? Or just burn out from never taking a break?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honestly, these kids are all overtraining, so I'd be glad for the season off and find something else for your kid to do over the winter. He could play rec basketball or take tennis lessons or just enjoy some down time.
Take note of what all the top kids (MLS and ECNL kids) are doing this winter. Plenty add a sport in the winter but most do futsal, indoor, or something soccer related.
Anonymous wrote:I just would never make it in the DMV. This stuff is part of why I left. I cannot stand this sort of thing. I would hate everyone.
Anonymous wrote:. Op here. We are new to the club. I’m definitely not part of the friend group for sure. My son likes the kids and they seem to like him. There was no communication from the coach or team manager regarding the league. I found out that my son’s friend was on a team but my son wasn’t asked. The futsal team is part of the club but is run by parents I guess. I’ll reach out to the organizers and see if another team is low on players. I’m expecting he won’t play the league this winter.Anonymous wrote:Is this normal, yes. Is it right, no. At that age everyone should be given the chance to participate. Sounds like your team is crap and even if it's parents organizing it a real coach invested in his players can let the parents know he expects it to be open to everyone before they go off and form teams. Sounds like he/she is condoning the clique approach. If you think it's just an honest mistake then talk to the coach again and see what he says, but that seems unlikely. For whatever reason, he's not part of the friend group, they don't think he's good enough, or whatever, it sounds like the childish parents running futsal made a decision to exclude him.
Unless you want your child to be miserable not recommended to try to force your way onto one of the teams where he is not wanted--they will find a way to make him suffer for it.
In the long term you have to take this into account when determining if this team is a good fit for your kid. If he gets along with his teammates and the coach and is learning and growing maybe it's just a few crappy parents and you want to stay. Or maybe the issue isn't just limited to the parent sideline and it's time to start looking.
Many of the local futsal leagues have individual signups and others if you contact the league organizer can point you in the direction of any teams looking for more players. Maybe playing with another group over the winter for futsal will be just the eye-opener he needs and maybe even get lucky and make some contacts that could lead to a better team for the spring.
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, these kids are all overtraining, so I'd be glad for the season off and find something else for your kid to do over the winter. He could play rec basketball or take tennis lessons or just enjoy some down time.