Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:39     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:Grades are meaningless without knowing the associated rigor of classes, and all schools -- public and private -- offer classes of various degrees of rigor.

But the trend toward the abolition of reliance on standardized tests is worrisome. Panned these days for not being perfectly unbiased and favoring kids whose parents can pay for more prep work, they were actually more of an equalizer -- to let a kid in a poor school show he's got as much talent as the kid at W School or Sidwell. As colleges trend away from testing, however, they will not have that relatively objective factor any longer. Much more will be lost than gained if this trend continues.


Bowdoin hasn't used standardized tests for over fifty years. I think they've figured it out.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 22:24     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Grades are meaningless without knowing the associated rigor of classes, and all schools -- public and private -- offer classes of various degrees of rigor.

But the trend toward the abolition of reliance on standardized tests is worrisome. Panned these days for not being perfectly unbiased and favoring kids whose parents can pay for more prep work, they were actually more of an equalizer -- to let a kid in a poor school show he's got as much talent as the kid at W School or Sidwell. As colleges trend away from testing, however, they will not have that relatively objective factor any longer. Much more will be lost than gained if this trend continues.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 19:04     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In DMV what percent of High schoolers have 4.0s or greater (both public and private). I am guessing probably around 30% or more. So if there are 100k seniors in DMV that means close to 30k kids think they can get into a top school. Is this accurate thinking?


Unweighted? No way.


+1. I don't believe that 30% have a 4.0 weighted, let alone unweighted.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 18:41     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:A grades are like water. Everyone get's A's due to pressure from parents. DC needs to become a unicorn along side the A's.

So not true.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 18:39     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:I never get these grade inflation posts.
My teen is in MCPS. She’s very smart, gets 95-99% on maps, same on cogat, works hard, and she doesn’t get all a’s. Who are these teachers giving out all a’s to everyone? She apparently does not get those teachers.

Same for my son, He has to work for the As. No one is handing them out at all. He is very similar to your DD based on your description.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 17:53     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I don't get OP's post. Is she talking unweighted? FWIW, a 4.0 is only the 25th percentile (bottom) for incoming students last year at UVA. A 4.97 is the 75th percentile. Same at W&M. It is what it is.


UVA and W&M 75th percentile of accepted students is NOT 4.97. That's ridiculous.



It was a typo but it's close:


UVA entering class last year (so the stats for the admitted class are higher because many VA students use it as a safety for the ivies or go to a SLAC): 75th percentile was a 4.52 (so 25% is higher); 50th percentile had a 4.39; bottom 25th percentile had a 4.23. William and Mary was 4.50, 4.3, 4.08. https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP


It’s not close. 4.97 weighted would incredible, essentially one B with 9+ AP/IB/Magnet courses!



Whatevee. I think a 4.52 is amazing. -mom of normal B+ daughter who could never dream of applying to those schools.


OP here: I wasn't saying 4.52 isn't amazing, I agree. But claiming that the 75% percentile at UVA is 4.97 is crazy and would make 25% of the student body exceptional, like 1% of the entire college population in the US.


I am wondering how many kids got rejected from UVA with a gpa greater than 4.3 - it must have been hundreds.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 11:35     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't get OP's post. Is she talking unweighted? FWIW, a 4.0 is only the 25th percentile (bottom) for incoming students last year at UVA. A 4.97 is the 75th percentile. Same at W&M. It is what it is.


UVA and W&M 75th percentile of accepted students is NOT 4.97. That's ridiculous.



It was a typo but it's close:


UVA entering class last year (so the stats for the admitted class are higher because many VA students use it as a safety for the ivies or go to a SLAC): 75th percentile was a 4.52 (so 25% is higher); 50th percentile had a 4.39; bottom 25th percentile had a 4.23. William and Mary was 4.50, 4.3, 4.08. https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP


It’s not close. 4.97 weighted would incredible, essentially one B with 9+ AP/IB/Magnet courses!



Whatevee. I think a 4.52 is amazing. -mom of normal B+ daughter who could never dream of applying to those schools.


OP here: I wasn't saying 4.52 isn't amazing, I agree. But claiming that the 75% percentile at UVA is 4.97 is crazy and would make 25% of the student body exceptional, like 1% of the entire college population in the US.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 11:25     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:A grades are like water. Everyone get's A's due to pressure from parents. DC needs to become a unicorn along side the A's.



Everyone does not get straight As in DMV. Why do you keep starting these threads? You've been wrong about financial aid; you've been wrong about everyone having a 4.0; you've been wrong in this thread. Educate yourself before posting.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 11:11     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
A grades are like water. Everyone get's A's due to pressure from parents. DC needs to become a unicorn along side the A's.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 11:07     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
An "A" is not an "A" OP. That is why colleges consider SATs, ECs, first gen, etc.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 10:06     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't get OP's post. Is she talking unweighted? FWIW, a 4.0 is only the 25th percentile (bottom) for incoming students last year at UVA. A 4.97 is the 75th percentile. Same at W&M. It is what it is.


UVA and W&M 75th percentile of accepted students is NOT 4.97. That's ridiculous.



It was a typo but it's close:


UVA entering class last year (so the stats for the admitted class are higher because many VA students use it as a safety for the ivies or go to a SLAC): 75th percentile was a 4.52 (so 25% is higher); 50th percentile had a 4.39; bottom 25th percentile had a 4.23. William and Mary was 4.50, 4.3, 4.08. https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP


It’s not close. 4.97 weighted would incredible, essentially one B with 9+ AP/IB/Magnet courses!



Whatevee. I think a 4.52 is amazing. -mom of normal B+ daughter who could never dream of applying to those schools.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2021 08:25     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't get OP's post. Is she talking unweighted? FWIW, a 4.0 is only the 25th percentile (bottom) for incoming students last year at UVA. A 4.97 is the 75th percentile. Same at W&M. It is what it is.


UVA and W&M 75th percentile of accepted students is NOT 4.97. That's ridiculous.



It was a typo but it's close:


UVA entering class last year (so the stats for the admitted class are higher because many VA students use it as a safety for the ivies or go to a SLAC): 75th percentile was a 4.52 (so 25% is higher); 50th percentile had a 4.39; bottom 25th percentile had a 4.23. William and Mary was 4.50, 4.3, 4.08. https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP


It’s not close. 4.97 weighted would incredible, essentially one B with 9+ AP/IB/Magnet courses!
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2021 23:11     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't get OP's post. Is she talking unweighted? FWIW, a 4.0 is only the 25th percentile (bottom) for incoming students last year at UVA. A 4.97 is the 75th percentile. Same at W&M. It is what it is.


UVA and W&M 75th percentile of accepted students is NOT 4.97. That's ridiculous.



It was a typo but it's close:


UVA entering class last year (so the stats for the admitted class are higher because many VA students use it as a safety for the ivies or go to a SLAC): 75th percentile was a 4.52 (so 25% is higher); 50th percentile had a 4.39; bottom 25th percentile had a 4.23. William and Mary was 4.50, 4.3, 4.08. https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2021 21:17     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A kid with straight As who can't get into college has some other thing going on, like a huge character flaw. More likely they did not apply to the schools that would happily admit them. That’s a different scenario of course than “can’t get into college.”


This.

+1
I was just sitting with my junior at Poolesville and showing them how to use the Naviance scattergrams. I always wonder about those couple of red Xs in the sea of green checks. Top scores and GPA clearly don’t make up for some big problems.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2021 14:19     Subject: Straight As but can’t get into college
Anonymous wrote:A kid with straight As who can't get into college has some other thing going on, like a huge character flaw. More likely they did not apply to the schools that would happily admit them. That’s a different scenario of course than “can’t get into college.”


This.