Anonymous wrote:They are saying to themselves that you are unreasonable and don't want to see them because you won't fly with 2 unvaccinated kids who are at incredibly low risk of any kind of serious covid.

This may be so, but you have to wonder what kind of pathologically selfish parents abandon their children and move to opposite side of the country. I'm sorry OP.

Anonymous wrote:The pandemic is not over. Your kids are not vaccinated. It sucks, but they are correct.

This. Who would have their 70 year old parents flying right now? Especially to see unvaxxed kids? It boggles the mind.

Anonymous wrote:I would not expect my parents to travel during a pandemic, no matter what their vaccination status.

And if I were the grandparents, I would not want my little unvaccinated grandchildren to travel during a pandemic either.

Combine that with what is probably going to continue to be really difficult air travel for the foreseeable future.

It's best to just do zoom until the kids are vaccinated. It would be different if the grandparents were local and there was no plane travel involved.

+1 to all this.

OP seems unaware of the nightmare that air travel can become very quickly these days. A friend's routine flight home from a trip turned into an extra two and a half days, scrambling to find a hotel room unexpectedly, scrambling to find a rental car (didn't happen, all rentals gone) etc. Neither the grandparents, nor OP with young children, should be risking that kind of clusterf#@k and yeah, that risk is real. And likely to be around for a while. That only adds to the stress of covid plus travel.

This PP has it right. I also wouldn't expect my parents to travel (regardless of vaxx status) nor would I travel with unvaccinated kids. Be grateful that at least there is technology to bring people a bit closer together. Use that technology. Stop making this about how they "don't want" to see you. They don't want to get even a breakthrough case of covid (which can be nasty) nor do they want or need to be at the mercy of some airline with staffing issues.

I would not expect my parents to travel during a pandemic, no matter what their vaccination status.

And if I were the grandparents, I would not want my little unvaccinated grandchildren to travel during a pandemic either.

Combine that with what is probably going to continue to be really difficult air travel for the foreseeable future.

It's best to just do zoom until the kids are vaccinated. It would be different if the grandparents were local and there was no plane travel involved.

I think you’ve posted before? About wanting them to move out here to be closer to you and they don’t want to? If you’re the same poster I’m thinking of, I think it’s time to come to terms with you’re relationship with them and accept what they are and aren’t willing to do. I say this gently- this must be very hard for you. Therapy can help.

I think their risk is higher than yours. You could fly out solid or with the kids. I'm not being snarky but 70 is not young. You will have to ask yourself if it is important for you to see your parents or not?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this OP has posted before about parents that refuse to move close to her.

+1

At least there is someone with parents in rural CA who has posted multiple times before about this.

Rent an Rv. Cross country trip.

OP—Get into some therapy to help you grieve the loss of this idea of who your parents would be as grandparents. You have to find a way to work through this. There’s no argument that anyone will present here that you can then present to your parents that will magically make them come visit.

My guess is that there are some other unresolved issues with them. The sooner you work with a therapist to reframe this issue with them, the sooner you can get to putting more energy into yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:It's much easier for them to come here.

Easier for whom?

+1. Most self-centered statement I've ever read.

This. and op have you missed all the problems the airlines are having because they are short staffed. At 70, I wouldn't not want to be trying to fly right now.

Flying with a 2-year-old is stressful in normal times. That’s how old my kid was when the pandemic started and I can imagine that it would be been even worse if he had to wear a mask. OP would have to take two car seats across the country because her parents refuse to fly. They’re vaccinated. Her kids are not.

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Anonymous wrote:It's much easier for them to come here.

Easier for whom?

+1. Most self-centered statement I've ever read.

This. and op have you missed all the problems the airlines are having because they are short staffed. At 70, I wouldn't not want to be trying to fly right now.

They are just not into small kids. Many people don’t have grandparents/parents that care. I am sorry you had to join their ranks. I would leave them be for now.

The pandemic is not over. Your kids are not vaccinated. It sucks, but they are correct.

Anonymous wrote:They have given in to the other hysteria, covid fearmongering. They must be glued to constant coverage of nothing works, variants, masks..
It is detrimental to our society just as much as covid deniers! These people are torturing themselves.
Will they even see you if you go there? Or will they insist you wish them dead?

We’re still in a pandemic. Even once we transition to “endemic” older people with significant additional risk factors, who likely have access to fewer health resources than many in DCUM-world have not “given into hysteria “ because their sense of risks and their actual risk profiles differ from yours.

That last bit got dark quick.

You are making this all about how much they care about you, when it's clearly about health anxiety, justified or not. Stop doing that. Also, as others have noted, you refuse to fly out to them, so it's not a case that they refuse to see you. You are also refusing to see them.