Anonymous wrote:Youngkin is ultimately not going to be able to do much about local school choices nor will he care. He used CRT as bait for suburban white women and it worked but he will otherwise completely ignore education.

+1. even better, with all the tax cuts he promised, schools will have less money and resources.

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Anonymous wrote:School districts currently provide acceleration at their own discretion - and that wouldn't have changed with VMPI.

Can Youngkin force a certain level of acceleration in a specific school district? Could he force an accelerated path that is 3 years ahead of baseline?

He could but he won't because the deep red districts that are his real base don't have the resources or inclination to offer it.

These deep red districts have been offering more advanced math than what LCPS is planning, and have been for decades.

here's Tazewell County's curriculum where Youngkin won 86% of the vote. It tops out at calculus.

https://ths.tcpsva.org

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Anonymous wrote:While the changes under VMPI haven’t taken affect yet, it doesn’t mean the trend of fewer advanced math options is already in action.
Here is what APS recently did for middle school math:
1. Teach much less math than usual during the pandemic by only teaching four days a week, etc.
2. Greatly INCREASE the test scores needed to qualify for the next advanced math class compared with previous years.
3. Shrug & say “oh look, not enough kids qualified for us to have a 7th grade algebra class. Guess we don't need one.” It’s a sneaky way to get rid of some advanced options.

The pandemic schedule has nothing to do with VMPI.

Years before VMPI, APS had already slowed down acceleration and eliminated 6th grade algebra. At the time, they said it because students weren’t demonstrating mastery / depth of knowledge.

Sorry, you can’t blame it on “equity” here.

Well, now they’re trying to eliminate 7th grade algebra, too. But without making a big announcement and just kind of hoping people won’t notice. That’s a problem.

THIS. And I noticed.

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Anonymous wrote:While the changes under VMPI haven’t taken affect yet, it doesn’t mean the trend of fewer advanced math options is already in action.
Here is what APS recently did for middle school math:
1. Teach much less math than usual during the pandemic by only teaching four days a week, etc.
2. Greatly INCREASE the test scores needed to qualify for the next advanced math class compared with previous years.
3. Shrug & say “oh look, not enough kids qualified for us to have a 7th grade algebra class. Guess we don't need one.” It’s a sneaky way to get rid of some advanced options.

Similar in LCPS, especially #2.

LCPS just changed the test as qualifying for prealgebra instead of algebra. It looks like for current 5th graders even this is not an option. The county instruction person said it would be too stressful to have 5th graders take a test that decides what they will do for the rest of their life.
Also, they would not have a class available to take under LCPS's plan to implement VMPI's new classes in 2023-2024.

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Do you mean LCPS for slowing down the acceleration a wee bit so kids aren't three grade levels ahead?

Maybe they aren't seeing good outcomes from too many kids accelerating so much. Maybe they aren't demonstrating depth of knowledge. Maybe not enough kids qualified enough to justify the course offering.

I can think of many reasons that are pro-education.

Wrong on all three counts. And they are also eliminating two grade levels ahead, which at some schools was more than half the class.
Not enough to justify the course makes no sense, since multiple grades are in the same class. It only is an issue once you get to 8th graders taking algebra 2, and Stone Hill has multiple classes of this in school, while other schools might have kids take a bus to the high school, which is not exclusive to advanced math, but also music and languages.

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Anonymous wrote:School districts currently provide acceleration at their own discretion - and that wouldn't have changed with VMPI.

Can Youngkin force a certain level of acceleration in a specific school district? Could he force an accelerated path that is 3 years ahead of baseline?

He could but he won't because the deep red districts that are his real base don't have the resources or inclination to offer it.

These deep red districts have been offering more advanced math than what LCPS is planning, and have been for decades.

lol Do you have any source for that?

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Anonymous wrote:School districts currently provide acceleration at their own discretion - and that wouldn't have changed with VMPI.

Can Youngkin force a certain level of acceleration in a specific school district? Could he force an accelerated path that is 3 years ahead of baseline?

He could but he won't because the deep red districts that are his real base don't have the resources or inclination to offer it.

These deep red districts have been offering more advanced math than what LCPS is planning, and have been for decades.

Anonymous wrote:on what Republicans care about which is tax breaks for corporations and the rich.

Right now that's the Democrats doing that, eliminating the cap on the SALT deduction.

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Anonymous wrote:While the changes under VMPI haven’t taken affect yet, it doesn’t mean the trend of fewer advanced math options is already in action.
Here is what APS recently did for middle school math:
1. Teach much less math than usual during the pandemic by only teaching four days a week, etc.
2. Greatly INCREASE the test scores needed to qualify for the next advanced math class compared with previous years.
3. Shrug & say “oh look, not enough kids qualified for us to have a 7th grade algebra class. Guess we don't need one.” It’s a sneaky way to get rid of some advanced options.

The pandemic schedule has nothing to do with VMPI.

Years before VMPI, APS had already slowed down acceleration and eliminated 6th grade algebra. At the time, they said it because students weren’t demonstrating mastery / depth of knowledge.

Sorry, you can’t blame it on “equity” here.

Well, now they’re trying to eliminate 7th grade algebra, too. But without making a big announcement and just kind of hoping people won’t notice. That’s a problem.

Anonymous wrote:While the changes under VMPI haven’t taken affect yet, it doesn’t mean the trend of fewer advanced math options is already in action.
Here is what APS recently did for middle school math:
1. Teach much less math than usual during the pandemic by only teaching four days a week, etc.
2. Greatly INCREASE the test scores needed to qualify for the next advanced math class compared with previous years.
3. Shrug & say “oh look, not enough kids qualified for us to have a 7th grade algebra class. Guess we don't need one.” It’s a sneaky way to get rid of some advanced options.

The pandemic schedule has nothing to do with VMPI.

Years before VMPI, APS had already slowed down acceleration and eliminated 6th grade algebra. At the time, they said it because students weren’t demonstrating mastery / depth of knowledge.

Sorry, you can’t blame it on “equity” here.

Anonymous wrote:While the changes under VMPI haven’t taken affect yet, it doesn’t mean the trend of fewer advanced math options is already in action.
Here is what APS recently did for middle school math:
1. Teach much less math than usual during the pandemic by only teaching four days a week, etc.
2. Greatly INCREASE the test scores needed to qualify for the next advanced math class compared with previous years.
3. Shrug & say “oh look, not enough kids qualified for us to have a 7th grade algebra class. Guess we don't need one.” It’s a sneaky way to get rid of some advanced options.

Similar in LCPS, especially #2.

While the changes under VMPI haven’t taken affect yet, it doesn’t mean the trend of fewer advanced math options is already in action.
Here is what APS recently did for middle school math:
1. Teach much less math than usual during the pandemic by only teaching four days a week, etc.
2. Greatly INCREASE the test scores needed to qualify for the next advanced math class compared with previous years.
3. Shrug & say “oh look, not enough kids qualified for us to have a 7th grade algebra class. Guess we don't need one.” It’s a sneaky way to get rid of some advanced options.

OP in my experience in Loudoun a lot of the families who are interested in choices in math levels are afraid to go up against the establishment because they are afraid there will be negative repercussions for their children. That's not how it works. You need to organize and demand what you want. Teachers will not fail your children just because you spoke up at a meeting. White people have done awful things to people from so many other countries, read some history if you're not familiar, so affirmative action should not leave children of any non-white heritage behind. Educate them on this because they don't know much about history. That is how this math thing happened, school admin were educated on American history and learned about the need for equity, but white people's destruction and colonization also affected other groups, groups who are now frustrated with the lack of math differentiation, so teach them some more history.

Also, they need to recognize that the White school administration should not get to decide that families of any other heritage are pushing their children too hard and so take away their choice for advanced math. Let them know your children are not better off mentally with easier schooling.

Organize and demand a change.

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No they’re gonna get $20k vouchers to Calvary Christian Fellowship Agape Evangelical Charter School and learn accelerated math and never have to read garbage like Pulitzer Prize winner and Ap Lit exam frequent-flyer Toni Morrison.

And that 20k with come with some many strings that no established school with even consider touching it.

No strings as long as there's plenty of Jesus and no critical thinking.

Established schools? No no. Gonna use vouchers to build new dream schools where parents create the entire curriculum. (There will however somehow be more accountability for teachers who have none at public. They also make much less at dream charter because they just have “degrees in coloring.”) Kids never misbehave, they learn calculus by 9th grade, workbooks and textbooks for all, NO 1:1 devices, no PBL, and only happy history, the kind where everyone always got along and MLK eradicated racism.