Anonymous wrote:I would have liked our kids to have had more discussions in their classes about the election IF the discussion could have been held to general parameters without any bias towards or against one party or the other. Unfortunately I think that's pretty hard to do. So my husband and I had discussions at home about it with the kids. In the end it all worked out. It is a shame because there is so much that is interesting and exciting. Unfortunately the vitriolic turn that our society has taken over the past 5-6 years has really undermined anyone's ability to have a rational discussion about such an important topic.

+1. Civics is hugely important, way too many citizens are ignorant of how our system of government works. Teachers can stop classroom conversation about particular issues or candidates while teaching the framework of our system and also how elections work, and so on.

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Anonymous wrote:I know plenty of kids who end up going by their middle name and then do not respond whatsoever to their first name. It’s like they don’t even identify with that person, yet you would still force that on the child? Very strange authoritarian and overly militant view.

4 of my kids use their middle name instead of their first name. They ALL respond to their first name. It would be really weird of them to ignore it. I don't know what kind of people you know but they don't sound very mature if they will ignore one of their known names.

In defense of these kids, I'd say it's appropriate and respectful the first time or two to respond but correct "Yeah, my first name is Elizabeth but I do by my middle name Larla." or "My name is Margaret but I go by Peggy." After the first few times, I'm good with them not responding since at some point that individual has made zero effort to learn their name.

I have the reverse issue, people often like to use a diminutive of my name. Again, think Elizabeth. I introduce myself that way, my signature on email is my given name, and so on. Yet, there are people who insist on calling me Liz either in email or orally. I eventually start to ignore them. That is not my name.

I would have liked our kids to have had more discussions in their classes about the election IF the discussion could have been held to general parameters without any bias towards or against one party or the other. Unfortunately I think that's pretty hard to do. So my husband and I had discussions at home about it with the kids. In the end it all worked out. It is a shame because there is so much that is interesting and exciting. Unfortunately the vitriolic turn that our society has taken over the past 5-6 years has really undermined anyone's ability to have a rational discussion about such an important topic.

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

Oh whatever. I'm not going to use made up fake pronouns and teachers shouldn't be forced to, either.

So if a child goes by a nickname and asks you to call them by that, will you also refuse because it’s “made up”?

Maybe. But I would also expect the child to answer to their given name if it is used. If little Bobby gets called Robert when taking attendance, I expect them to answer.

I know plenty of kids who end up going by their middle name and then do not respond whatsoever to their first name. It’s like they don’t even identify with that person, yet you would still force that on the child? Very strange authoritarian and overly militant view.

4 of my kids use their middle name instead of their first name. They ALL respond to their first name. It would be really weird of them to ignore it. I don't know what kind of people you know but they don't sound very mature if they will ignore one of their known names.

So bottom line - OP's kid was right, Youngkin is probably going to try to do some things with pronouns and the OP is basically more uninformed than their kid?

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

don't tell the kids that they don't have to know.

I thought for a school in our Nations Capitol, FCPS did a lousy job with current events. I don't know if they are scared but disappointing. It came across as unsophisticated - that they couldn't formulate a teaching plan, and therefore did nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

Oh whatever. I'm not going to use made up fake pronouns and teachers shouldn't be forced to, either.

So if a child goes by a nickname and asks you to call them by that, will you also refuse because it’s “made up”?

Maybe. But I would also expect the child to answer to their given name if it is used. If little Bobby gets called Robert when taking attendance, I expect them to answer.

I know plenty of kids who end up going by their middle name and then do not respond whatsoever to their first name. It’s like they don’t even identify with that person, yet you would still force that on the child? Very strange authoritarian and overly militant view.

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

Oh whatever. I'm not going to use made up fake pronouns and teachers shouldn't be forced to, either.

So if a child goes by a nickname and asks you to call them by that, will you also refuse because it’s “made up”?

Maybe. But I would also expect the child to answer to their given name if it is used. If little Bobby gets called Robert when taking attendance, I expect them to answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

Oh whatever. I'm not going to use made up fake pronouns and teachers shouldn't be forced to, either.

What a jerk. Go back to the 1800s fool.

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

Op your questions is very strange. What do you mean should civics be “allowed “ to teach about a local election? What do you think civics is?

It tells us so much about this poster. Authoritarian or just ignorant?

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

Oh whatever. I'm not going to use made up fake pronouns and teachers shouldn't be forced to, either.

What pronouns are fake? I'm a teacher and have never been asked to use a "fake' pronoun, just he, she or they... Not sure why anyone should have an issue with that. I will also call Charles Charlie if they they want me to- is that an issue for you as well? I guess the name is fake because it's not Charles.

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

Oh whatever. I'm not going to use made up fake pronouns and teachers shouldn't be forced to, either.

So if a child goes by a nickname and asks you to call them by that, will you also refuse because it’s “made up”?

DP. Names are a contentious issue and parents have strong viewpoints. At my school teachers are required to use only the name specified by the parent. If the parent says the kid is "Larlo" and the kid asks to be called "R-Lo" then we still must use "Larlo." When I take roll on the first day and a kid tells me his or her nickname, then later that day I send an email to the parent or guardian requesting guidance for my team teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

Oh whatever. I'm not going to use made up fake pronouns and teachers shouldn't be forced to, either.

So if a child goes by a nickname and asks you to call them by that, will you also refuse because it’s “made up”?

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Anonymous wrote:Should Civics be allowed to teach about the Governor election?
I’m okay with it, but I’m not okay when my DD thinks “if Younkin wins kids will not be allowed to be called by their pronouns at school”
Youngkin is fine with pronouns so why is the teacher not saying anything when a student said that ?

No, he's not ok with non-binary pronouns and has said as much.

Oh whatever. I'm not going to use made up fake pronouns and teachers shouldn't be forced to, either.