Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:07
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s regional. And it sounds fine to my Chicago ears!
None of my Chicago family say this. We are half north siders and half south siders. There are plenty of Chicago regionalisms but this is not one of them. If you want to talk about the "frunch room" or dese, dem, and dose, then that's another thing.
What is frunch?
D instead of th is European.
Frunch is front, like front room where the Christmas tree is.
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:06
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have never heard this? It seems literally wrong.
I am surprised that elementary schools don't catch/correct this.
Member of this younger generation though, all seem to say, "I needa (insert verb here), instead of "I need to"
I first heard it on college tours, which shocked me. So many of the student-guides spoke this way. Now I have even heard TV pundits do it. Any insights???
The teachers also speak this way.
+1. I’m from Pittsburgh and had the “cringe reaction” to a lot of Pittsburghese. Did not realize this was correct grammar until my now husband pointed it out in college. In Pittsburgh proper it’s ubiquitous. I usually say “they need cleaning up” now instead of “the need to be cleaned up.” I guess it feels more “natural” too my subconscious still.
So now you think this is correct??
That’s an awkward sentence, but adding -ing is grammatically correct. https://ygdp.yale.edu/phenomena/needs-washed
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:04
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have never heard this? It seems literally wrong.
I am surprised that elementary schools don't catch/correct this.
Member of this younger generation though, all seem to say, "I needa (insert verb here), instead of "I need to"
I first heard it on college tours, which shocked me. So many of the student-guides spoke this way. Now I have even heard TV pundits do it. Any insights???
The teachers also speak this way.
+1. I’m from Pittsburgh and had the “cringe reaction” to a lot of Pittsburghese. Did not realize this was correct grammar until my now husband pointed it out in college. In Pittsburgh proper it’s ubiquitous. I usually say “they need cleaning up” now instead of “the need to be cleaned up.” I guess it feels more “natural” too my subconscious still.
So many autocorrect typos, sorry yinz.
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:04
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have never heard this? It seems literally wrong.
I am surprised that elementary schools don't catch/correct this.
Member of this younger generation though, all seem to say, "I needa (insert verb here), instead of "I need to"
I first heard it on college tours, which shocked me. So many of the student-guides spoke this way. Now I have even heard TV pundits do it. Any insights???
The teachers also speak this way.
+1. I’m from Pittsburgh and had the “cringe reaction” to a lot of Pittsburghese. Did not realize this was correct grammar until my now husband pointed it out in college. In Pittsburgh proper it’s ubiquitous. I usually say “they need cleaning up” now instead of “the need to be cleaned up.” I guess it feels more “natural” too my subconscious still.
So now you think this is correct??
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:04
Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Drives me crazy! I think it's western Pennsylvania!
We would say redd up, not clean up.
+1. True!
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:03
Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:At the hospital I work at (Carroll county) all my coworkers say “they need tested” when talking about covid testing. Drives me bonkers.
Your bad grammar would drive me insane.
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:03
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have never heard this? It seems literally wrong.
I am surprised that elementary schools don't catch/correct this.
Member of this younger generation though, all seem to say, "I needa (insert verb here), instead of "I need to"
I first heard it on college tours, which shocked me. So many of the student-guides spoke this way. Now I have even heard TV pundits do it. Any insights???
The teachers also speak this way.
+1. I’m from Pittsburgh and had the “cringe reaction” to a lot of Pittsburghese. Did not realize this was correct grammar until my now husband pointed it out in college. In Pittsburgh proper it’s ubiquitous. I usually say “they need cleaning up” now instead of “the need to be cleaned up.” I guess it feels more “natural” too my subconscious still.
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:03
Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't mind slang and regional speak, but I don't like this phrasing, because I get confused at what's being said. Past tense, present tense? I wouldn't know what to think.
It's future imperfect continuous.
No way dude it's Subjunctive
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:02
Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Drives me crazy! I think it's western Pennsylvania!
We would say redd up, not clean up.
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:00
Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:I don't mind slang and regional speak, but I don't like this phrasing, because I get confused at what's being said. Past tense, present tense? I wouldn't know what to think.
It's future imperfect continuous.
Anonymous
10/24/2021 19:00
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My husband from the Midwest sometimes says things like this, and it really grates. “The washer needs fixed.” Ugh.
Please do not blame the midwest. My mother was an English Professor in the "dreaded midwest" + would have cringed at this. I am guessing it is a class thing.
What class was she? It's typically middle- to upper-middle class folks who have the "cringe" reaction -- it helps to police/gatekeep their class position, and it fits with aspirational stereotypes about the upper classes (who in fact don't necessarily care, because their class position is secure, and the middle class gatekeep for them.)
Anonymous
10/24/2021 18:33
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
I’m a linguist and when people use these things I love it! The samification of American English is a drag. Give me more regional oddities!
Anonymous
10/24/2021 18:31
Subject: Re:“They need cleaned up”
Drives me crazy! I think it's western Pennsylvania!
Anonymous
10/24/2021 18:21
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
Anonymous wrote:If you use any of these so called regional colloquialisms in my presence I will immediately file you under uneducated rube.[/quote
Of course you will. Do people who use these regional shortcuts know (or care?) that they come across that way?
Anonymous
10/24/2021 18:15
Subject: “They need cleaned up”
If you use any of these so called regional colloquialisms in my presence I will immediately file you under uneducated rube.