Anonymous
10/12/2021 17:20
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, if you use "cancel culture" as though it's a real thing, I am going to know you're not seriously engaged in understanding much of anything.
Why do you think this isn’t “cancel culture”?
Did someone lose a job that was essential to their survival? Does that person have no hope of getting a similar position that will allow them to continue to function in their chosen field?
Or some someone lazy/sloppy about following developments in their field, or deliberately offensive, and are they receiving consequences as a result?
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.
He can avoid that by talking to his students in advance about how he wants to be respectful of everyone and make sure he doesn’t make people uncomfortable. He needs to stress that he wants students to let him know if he is accidentally offensive.
That doesn’t work. It isn’t enough. It is never enough, whatever you do.
Anonymous
10/12/2021 16:34
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Meanwhile, trans folks have no federal employment projections and Black women routinely lose their jobs because their hair is wrong, so why not focus on problems that actually exist?
So what you’re basically saying is that we can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.
We can address more than one problem at a time, but fragile men are a problem only in their own minds (and evidently those of their spouses)
That Michigan prof is fragile?
If he's having a tantrum because he lost a speaking engagement? "Some people decided not to pay me to speeeeeeak! Everyone has to listen to meeeee!"
Sounds fragile to me.
Anonymous
10/12/2021 16:00
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Meanwhile, trans folks have no federal employment projections and Black women routinely lose their jobs because their hair is wrong, so why not focus on problems that actually exist?
So what you’re basically saying is that we can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.
We can address more than one problem at a time, but fragile men are a problem only in their own minds (and evidently those of their spouses)
That Michigan prof is fragile?
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:58
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:
MIT recently canceled a lecture on climate by a U of Chicago professor because some people didn’t like his views on academic merit. What should we call this if not “cancel culture”? https://www.boston.com/news/college/2021/10/07/chicago-professor-mit-lecture-canceled-blames-twitter-outrage-mob/
People get and lose speaking engagements for all sorts of reasons. Is every cancelled talk an example of "cancel culture," or are you taking other factors into account?
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:56
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Meanwhile, trans folks have no federal employment projections and Black women routinely lose their jobs because their hair is wrong, so why not focus on problems that actually exist?
So what you’re basically saying is that we can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.
We can address more than one problem at a time, but fragile men are a problem only in their own minds (and evidently those of their spouses)
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:51
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.
His fear is real, sure. But does he know someone with tenure who lost their job over one mistake?
The threat exists even if it might not have happened yet. -DP
Meanwhile, trans folks have no federal employment projections and Black women routinely lose their jobs because their hair is wrong, so why not focus on problems that actually exist?
So what you’re basically saying is that we can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:46
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, if you use "cancel culture" as though it's a real thing, I am going to know you're not seriously engaged in understanding much of anything.
Why do you think this isn’t “cancel culture”?
Did someone lose a job that was essential to their survival? Does that person have no hope of getting a similar position that will allow them to continue to function in their chosen field?
Or some someone lazy/sloppy about following developments in their field, or deliberately offensive, and are they receiving consequences as a result?
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.
He can avoid that by talking to his students in advance about how he wants to be respectful of everyone and make sure he doesn’t make people uncomfortable. He needs to stress that he wants students to let him know if he is accidentally offensive.
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:45
Subject: Re:Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is McCarthyism now, pure and simple. Only coming from the left instead of the right.
Nonsense. It is not true. This is the second time today I've posted that I'm a dem. Cancel culture is over the top, and this professor's situation is ridiculous. Students are adults! Keep it up and the navel-gazers will be too fearful to make meaningful impacts in the big world.
Do you know what McCarthyism is?
LOL, no she doesn't. Wow.
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:45
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, if you use "cancel culture" as though it's a real thing, I am going to know you're not seriously engaged in understanding much of anything.
Why do you think this isn’t “cancel culture”?
Did someone lose a job that was essential to their survival? Does that person have no hope of getting a similar position that will allow them to continue to function in their chosen field?
Or some someone lazy/sloppy about following developments in their field, or deliberately offensive, and are they receiving consequences as a result?
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.
Mine too. He worried about putting a work on his syllabus because it used the term "Negro" -- the work is an important one that influenced the development of this particular issue and has historical importance. But it was just too touchy.
MIT recently canceled a lecture on climate by a U of Chicago professor because some people didn’t like his views on academic merit. What should we call this if not “cancel culture”? https://www.boston.com/news/college/2021/10/07/chicago-professor-mit-lecture-canceled-blames-twitter-outrage-mob/
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:30
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, if you use "cancel culture" as though it's a real thing, I am going to know you're not seriously engaged in understanding much of anything.
Why do you think this isn’t “cancel culture”?
Did someone lose a job that was essential to their survival? Does that person have no hope of getting a similar position that will allow them to continue to function in their chosen field?
Or some someone lazy/sloppy about following developments in their field, or deliberately offensive, and are they receiving consequences as a result?
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.
Mine too. He worried about putting a work on his syllabus because it used the term "Negro" -- the work is an important one that influenced the development of this particular issue and has historical importance. But it was just too touchy.
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:24
Subject: Re:Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Ralph Northam would not approve.
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:10
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.
His fear is real, sure. But does he know someone with tenure who lost their job over one mistake?
The threat exists even if it might not have happened yet. -DP
Meanwhile, trans folks have no federal employment projections and Black women routinely lose their jobs because their hair is wrong, so why not focus on problems that actually exist?
Anonymous
10/12/2021 14:08
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.
His fear is real, sure. But does he know someone with tenure who lost their job over one mistake?
The threat exists even if it might not have happened yet. -DP
Anonymous
10/12/2021 13:52
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.
His fear is real, sure. But does he know someone with tenure who lost their job over one mistake?
Anonymous
10/12/2021 13:50
Subject: Would a trigger warning before showing 1965 Othello film have saved this professor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, if you use "cancel culture" as though it's a real thing, I am going to know you're not seriously engaged in understanding much of anything.
Why do you think this isn’t “cancel culture”?
Did someone lose a job that was essential to their survival? Does that person have no hope of getting a similar position that will allow them to continue to function in their chosen field?
Or some someone lazy/sloppy about following developments in their field, or deliberately offensive, and are they receiving consequences as a result?
My husband is a professor and he is one of the least offensive people in history. He actually has nightmares about making a mistake and getting “cancelled.” It is real.