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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to have to charge my car for 30 minutes every 2 hours on a road trip. I will wait for the infrastructure to catch up.

Does it change your mind if it's 20 minutes every 3 hours?

No -- 8 hours minimum before electric cars work for most people. And then a 5 minute recharge for another 8.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't expect anyone to trade in a car they already have, and I realize that many (most, even) people can't afford to buy electric cars. But if you're driving around with temporary tags on a new gas-burning car that costs more than our new $45,000 electric car did, what is wrong with you? If you can afford a new Porsche Macan, you can afford a Tesla or an electric Audi or something that doesn't contribute as much to destroying the world. (They even make electric Porsches! They'll soon be making electric Macans!) Do people just not think about climate change at all when they're in the process of dropping $60,000 on a car?

1. Someday the technology will be there for a battery powered car that does what I want it to do. My guess is 30-40 years from now. I will buy one then.

2. Gas is not going anywhere. We will still be driving gas cars in 30 years.

3. No I do not consider climate change when purchasing a car or really doing anything else.

Do you not believe in it? Do you have kids?

PP here. 4 kids. Yes believe in it. Also believe in reality. Electric cars are to make people fell better in 2021. Someday they will be here and ready. Until then gas car is the only way to go unless you buy a horse.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you under the impression that the electricity just wills its way in to existence?

Accounting for how the electricity is produced, the environmental costs of producing the car, etc., an electric car is cleaner than a gas car within 27,000 to 40,000 miles driven: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36877102/20-questions-evs-environmentally-friendly/

If you care about the environment, maybe you should consider how much you are driving. Big different if you put a few thousand miles on like me vs. 27,000 to 40,000. Even when I worked and used my car for work, I put on 12-15K. You are driving way to much.

Let's hear your environmental friendly version of what happens to the car batteries when they no longer charge? They can't be recycled.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to have to charge my car for 30 minutes every 2 hours on a road trip. I will wait for the infrastructure to catch up.

Does it change your mind if it's 20 minutes every 3 hours?

If you really care about the environment drive less.

Personally, I don’t buy an electric car because of the environment, it’s mainly a financial decision for me. My question was to see at what point you would not be inconvenienced by electric car charging on long trips.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to have to charge my car for 30 minutes every 2 hours on a road trip. I will wait for the infrastructure to catch up.

Does it change your mind if it's 20 minutes every 3 hours?

If you really care about the environment drive less.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to have to charge my car for 30 minutes every 2 hours on a road trip. I will wait for the infrastructure to catch up.

Does it change your mind if it's 20 minutes every 3 hours?

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Refueling takes 5 minutes. And we can actually make it 500 miles on a full tank, although we usually have to stop once to go to the bathroom. A 200 mile range means 2 recharging stops, and normally we don't stop for more than 10-15 minutes total in a trip.

I call BS on your 500 mile trip with one bathroom break. This is like driving from DC to Maine! Unbelievable how you lie just to score a cheap point. So, if you have your family with you (since you said 'we'), do you synchronize your bathroom breaks, or you need to wear adult diapers if you miss your break? You don't eat, not even a coffee, you make sure everyone took a crap before leaving home?

Even if you do stop, how many of these 500 mile trips do you take once a year? More than one? Sane people would just book a flight, instead of wasting a vacation day on the road, but no, you want to drive for 8 hours straight and wasting 20 minutes on charging is unacceptable.

For the people that can't stand a 20 minute charge every 250 miles (that's a break about every 3.5 hours), you are being ridiculous and that almost never happens.

If you dont want to buy an electric car, thats your right, but your argument on why is absolutely bonkers.

From an owner of an electric car for several years, charging time is a non-issue with the infrastructure that exists today.

Some of us enjoy things like internal combustion engines and manual transmissions.

You didn't get a Tesla because you couldn't afford it.

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Anonymous wrote:Because I don’t want an electric car. I don’t want to have to plan my trip to charge my car.

This.

You people always exaggerate how many trips you take and how far you go — and you’re totally ignorant to charging times. One example is you don’t even need a lengthier 100% full charge to complete a trip, you likely only need a 20% to 50% change, which takes no longer than a gas fillup.

Once you drive an electric, going back to a gas car, even in luxury trim, feels primitive.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't expect anyone to trade in a car they already have, and I realize that many (most, even) people can't afford to buy electric cars. But if you're driving around with temporary tags on a new gas-burning car that costs more than our new $45,000 electric car did, what is wrong with you? If you can afford a new Porsche Macan, you can afford a Tesla or an electric Audi or something that doesn't contribute as much to destroying the world. (They even make electric Porsches! They'll soon be making electric Macans!) Do people just not think about climate change at all when they're in the process of dropping $60,000 on a car?

1. Someday the technology will be there for a battery powered car that does what I want it to do. My guess is 30-40 years from now. I will buy one then.

2. Gas is not going anywhere. We will still be driving gas cars in 30 years.

3. No I do not consider climate change when purchasing a car or really doing anything else.

Do you not believe in it? Do you have kids?

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Anonymous wrote:What a presumptuous and arrogant question (and I am fully in support of the move to electric)

I don't think it's presumptuous to ask why people are buying expensive cars that burn gasoline when they could buy electric ones instead (and in many cases, cheaper electric ones!), but I also think we're past the point where we can afford to worry about hurting people's feelings if we're going to do anything effective about climate change.

Well said.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't expect anyone to trade in a car they already have, and I realize that many (most, even) people can't afford to buy electric cars. But if you're driving around with temporary tags on a new gas-burning car that costs more than our new $45,000 electric car did, what is wrong with you? If you can afford a new Porsche Macan, you can afford a Tesla or an electric Audi or something that doesn't contribute as much to destroying the world. (They even make electric Porsches! They'll soon be making electric Macans!) Do people just not think about climate change at all when they're in the process of dropping $60,000 on a car?

2. Gas is not going anywhere. We will still be driving gas cars in 30 years.

Solves my problem….I’ll be dead.

Anonymous wrote:Because I don’t want an electric car. I don’t want to have to plan my trip to charge my car.

This.