RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you can read, the immediate PP said practices.

"Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations."

What club is this? That's absolutely not the norm. Fields are finite resources. You can't just wake up and say, "Hmmm, I think we'll practice at Oakton at 6 p.m. today."

Team manager probably is directed by the club to put in teamsnap the schedule.

If you can read, the immediate PP said practices.

"Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations."

Anonymous wrote:
If you can read, OP said games not practices…

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is not true unless the team manger was lying. I’ve heard from others that we have more control with scheduling EDP games.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think she only did it because she wants to know be in the know and control the scheduling.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

You can have the job! I only agreed to do it because the Coach asked and everyone else said no.

what team manager has control of the scheduling ... or anything else? It is just a series of tedious and mundane duties! No control whatsoever.

Seriously -- I've never seen a manager who can control the timing of anything at all. Not practice. Certainly not games. Maybe someone somewhere does it, but it's definitely not the norm. Definitely not the case at PAC.

EDP ... maybe? Their scheduling seems more haphazard than other leagues.

Yes. Team Managers on EDP teams coordinate with each other to schedule games. Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations.

There's no way a Team Manager is determining when the coach will hold practice time. If you mean that they communicate the practice time, sure, but that isn't scheduling it.

If you can read, OP said games not practices…

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is not true unless the team manger was lying. I’ve heard from others that we have more control with scheduling EDP games.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think she only did it because she wants to know be in the know and control the scheduling.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

You can have the job! I only agreed to do it because the Coach asked and everyone else said no.

what team manager has control of the scheduling ... or anything else? It is just a series of tedious and mundane duties! No control whatsoever.

Seriously -- I've never seen a manager who can control the timing of anything at all. Not practice. Certainly not games. Maybe someone somewhere does it, but it's definitely not the norm. Definitely not the case at PAC.

EDP ... maybe? Their scheduling seems more haphazard than other leagues.

Yes. Team Managers on EDP teams coordinate with each other to schedule games. Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations.

There's no way a Team Manager is determining when the coach will hold practice time. If you mean that they communicate the practice time, sure, but that isn't scheduling it.

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is not true unless the team manger was lying. I’ve heard from others that we have more control with scheduling EDP games.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think she only did it because she wants to know be in the know and control the scheduling.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

You can have the job! I only agreed to do it because the Coach asked and everyone else said no.

what team manager has control of the scheduling ... or anything else? It is just a series of tedious and mundane duties! No control whatsoever.

Seriously -- I've never seen a manager who can control the timing of anything at all. Not practice. Certainly not games. Maybe someone somewhere does it, but it's definitely not the norm. Definitely not the case at PAC.

EDP ... maybe? Their scheduling seems more haphazard than other leagues.

Yes. Team Managers on EDP teams coordinate with each other to schedule games. Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations.

There's no way a Team Manager is determining when the coach will hold practice time. If you mean that they communicate the practice time, sure, but that isn't scheduling it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is not true unless the team manger was lying. I’ve heard from others that we have more control with scheduling EDP games.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think she only did it because she wants to know be in the know and control the scheduling.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

You can have the job! I only agreed to do it because the Coach asked and everyone else said no.

what team manager has control of the scheduling ... or anything else? It is just a series of tedious and mundane duties! No control whatsoever.

Seriously -- I've never seen a manager who can control the timing of anything at all. Not practice. Certainly not games. Maybe someone somewhere does it, but it's definitely not the norm. Definitely not the case at PAC.

EDP ... maybe? Their scheduling seems more haphazard than other leagues.

Yes. Team Managers on EDP teams coordinate with each other to schedule games. Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations.

I ran an EDP team and while I did coordinate the schedule I did not decide on the times or locations. The two coaches for each game did. Same with practice. Purely a coordination role, not a decision making role.

I manage an EDP team, too. When scheduling a home game, I look first at field availability, then coach's schedule (coach has several teams), then coordinate with opponent manager/coach. There are often several back-and-forth exchanges. There might occasionally be a little wiggle room to take into consideration my personal preferences (often there is none) but it would just add more pieces to the puzzle and make my job more complicated. When the opponent contacts me to schedule an away game, I check with coach's schedule and if it is clear and our team has no conflict, accept. I think if a manager was hungry for control she/he would run into roadblocks constantly and be very frustrated.

I don't mind managing my kids' teams. Among them, there have been a lot of years of travel soccer in NCSL, CCL, and EDP. Managing, EDP especially, takes a fair bit of time and effort. But the kids love to play and it's a way for me to contribute to the experience and make things run a little more smoothly. Other than that, though, I don't see any benefit, advantage, or special privilege. I find it bizarre that anyone does. When I have NOT managed, I am simply grateful that someone else is willing to put in the time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a weird situation. Shrug.

I wish it was weird or unusual.

It is weird an unusual. I’ve never seen a team manger sit on the player’s side of the field nor isolate themselves. Ever. The club should remove them from that volunteer role and ask for another volunteer or handle the typical administrative duties themselves. The ex-managers shall also be put on notice that they will be disallowed from attending games on the second strike and upon the third their kid will be cut.

A dad on my son's U16 (last year) was assistant team manager----always sat on the team side. The players would tell him to get lost some time, but he never went away. He was at every practice, every game with his head fully up the coach's *ss. The coach ended up hating him, but the club higher ups loved to have their butts kissed.

This dude was relentless.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:OK, so EDP games are more collaborative. That makes sense. Their teams often have a lot going on.

But practice? Who does that?

The club schedules the practices based on the coaches' availability.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is not true unless the team manger was lying. I’ve heard from others that we have more control with scheduling EDP games.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think she only did it because she wants to know be in the know and control the scheduling.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

You can have the job! I only agreed to do it because the Coach asked and everyone else said no.

what team manager has control of the scheduling ... or anything else? It is just a series of tedious and mundane duties! No control whatsoever.

Seriously -- I've never seen a manager who can control the timing of anything at all. Not practice. Certainly not games. Maybe someone somewhere does it, but it's definitely not the norm. Definitely not the case at PAC.

EDP ... maybe? Their scheduling seems more haphazard than other leagues.

Yes. Team Managers on EDP teams coordinate with each other to schedule games. Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations.

I ran an EDP team and while I did coordinate the schedule I did not decide on the times or locations. The two coaches for each game did. Same with practice. Purely a coordination role, not a decision making role.

The team managers coordinate with their coaches to make sure they are available based on the agreed tentative scheduled times & locations. The game location is determined by the home team.

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is not true unless the team manger was lying. I’ve heard from others that we have more control with scheduling EDP games.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think she only did it because she wants to know be in the know and control the scheduling.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

You can have the job! I only agreed to do it because the Coach asked and everyone else said no.

what team manager has control of the scheduling ... or anything else? It is just a series of tedious and mundane duties! No control whatsoever.

Seriously -- I've never seen a manager who can control the timing of anything at all. Not practice. Certainly not games. Maybe someone somewhere does it, but it's definitely not the norm. Definitely not the case at PAC.

EDP ... maybe? Their scheduling seems more haphazard than other leagues.

Yes. Team Managers on EDP teams coordinate with each other to schedule games. Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations.

I ran an EDP team and while I did coordinate the schedule I did not decide on the times or locations. The two coaches for each game did. Same with practice. Purely a coordination role, not a decision making role.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is not true unless the team manger was lying. I’ve heard from others that we have more control with scheduling EDP games.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think she only did it because she wants to know be in the know and control the scheduling.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

You can have the job! I only agreed to do it because the Coach asked and everyone else said no.

what team manager has control of the scheduling ... or anything else? It is just a series of tedious and mundane duties! No control whatsoever.

Seriously -- I've never seen a manager who can control the timing of anything at all. Not practice. Certainly not games. Maybe someone somewhere does it, but it's definitely not the norm. Definitely not the case at PAC.

EDP ... maybe? Their scheduling seems more haphazard than other leagues.

Yes. Team Managers on EDP teams coordinate with each other to schedule games. Team Managers also schedule practice times and locations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a weird situation. Shrug.

I wish it was weird or unusual.

It is weird an unusual. I’ve never seen a team manger sit on the player’s side of the field nor isolate themselves. Ever. The club should remove them from that volunteer role and ask for another volunteer or handle the typical administrative duties themselves. The ex-managers shall also be put on notice that they will be disallowed from attending games on the second strike and upon the third their kid will be cut.

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a weird situation. Shrug.

I wish it was weird or unusual.

That is not true unless the team manger was lying. I’ve heard from others that we have more control with scheduling EDP games.

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I think she only did it because she wants to know be in the know and control the scheduling.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

You can have the job! I only agreed to do it because the Coach asked and everyone else said no.

what team manager has control of the scheduling ... or anything else? It is just a series of tedious and mundane duties! No control whatsoever.

Seriously -- I've never seen a manager who can control the timing of anything at all. Not practice. Certainly not games. Maybe someone somewhere does it, but it's definitely not the norm. Definitely not the case at PAC.

There’s no doubt that this thread has hit a chord with the Team Managers. LOL

Anonymous wrote:What is the best course of action to have the team anger removed?

Pretty easy. Volunteer to take the job.