Anonymous wrote:Given that these are the boundary maps for FCPS:

High School - https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY%202021-22%20High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

Middle School - https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY%202021-22%20Middle%20School%20Boundaries_0.pdf

Elementary School - https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY%202021-22%20Elementary%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

AAP Middle School - https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY%202021-22%20Middle%20Schools%20by%20Middle%20School.pdf

AAP Elementary School - https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY%202021-22%20Elementary%20Schools.pdf

What would you change about them? I would eliminate attendance islands for any school. As an example, I would make the tendril in Woodson High School part of Fairfax High School so that the Fairfax High School region is connected. I would also get rid of split feeders as much as possible. Everyone from one elementary school should go to the same middle school and everybody from one middle school should go to the same high school. Of course AAP complicates things, but I still think one AAP elementary school should feed into one AAP middle school.

At one point I saw a map that had all of these combined. What happened to that map?

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Anonymous wrote:McLean to Marshall and Langley

Marshall to Falls Church

Falls Church to Madison.

Some Madison to Langley

Some of these areas are obvious

And some Madison to South Lakes!

Falls Church to Madison does not make any sense.

PP again - I mean to say the GenEd classes are small and the AAP class is large.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools along Rte 50 inside the beltway's attendance boundaries are a clusterf_ck - I'm talking Graham Rd, Pine Spring, Beech Tree. And then there's Timberlane - a random school half zoned to McLean - in the middle of all that, and Shrevewood which is very overcrowded. Such a mess.

Yup, and the Stenwood parents continue to fight allowing kids who are closer to Stenwood than Shrevewood attend. It's absurd.

Stenwood is going to have its boundaries substantially changed when Frisch's Dunn Loring project is finished. Part of Shrevewood will finally move to Stenwood, and much of Stenwood (and part of Freedom Hill) will end up at Dunn Loring.

Does anyone actually think Dunn Loring is going to happen? I live near there and it's been business as usual there. No signs of any change.

This link may or may not work (the DCUM software often prevents simple links from working), but it indicates the real work on Dunn Loring isn't planned to begin until the 2023-24 school year:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/budget/sites/budget/files/assets/documents/fy2022/advertised/cip/9-fairfax%20county%20public%20schools.pdf

Shrevewood will be overcrowded for many more years.

If there is one benefit about COVID, it is that Shrevewood’s attendance is down. My kid’s class size is in the teens.

Is that for real? Where did everyone go? Is it an AAP class?

I don't know about Shrevewood, but our AAP classes are large and a lot of people left for private after their kids didn't get into AAP, so grades 3+ are much smaller than K-2

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Anonymous wrote:The schools along Rte 50 inside the beltway's attendance boundaries are a clusterf_ck - I'm talking Graham Rd, Pine Spring, Beech Tree. And then there's Timberlane - a random school half zoned to McLean - in the middle of all that, and Shrevewood which is very overcrowded. Such a mess.

Yes. I am sour on the whole "attendance island" situation, though. There were changes this summer based on eliminating attendance islands, that did nothing of the sort. The kids on the opposite side of Beech Tree will always be an island as long as they are zoned to a school across route 50. Either open another school on that side, zone them to a school on that side, or don't use that as a pretense to move kids on the opposite side of route 50.

To be clear, the Sleepy Hollow neighborhood was moved to BTES from SHES to theoretically eliminate an attendance island. IMO, it does nothing of the sort. I don't actually have an issue with being moved to BTES, but the logic for it did not make sense to me.

There is technically no island at Beech Tree following the changes, just a gerrymandered boundary.

Anonymous wrote:The schools along Rte 50 inside the beltway's attendance boundaries are a clusterf_ck - I'm talking Graham Rd, Pine Spring, Beech Tree. And then there's Timberlane - a random school half zoned to McLean - in the middle of all that, and Shrevewood which is very overcrowded. Such a mess.

Yes. I am sour on the whole "attendance island" situation, though. There were changes this summer based on eliminating attendance islands, that did nothing of the sort. The kids on the opposite side of Beech Tree will always be an island as long as they are zoned to a school across route 50. Either open another school on that side, zone them to a school on that side, or don't use that as a pretense to move kids on the opposite side of route 50.

To be clear, the Sleepy Hollow neighborhood was moved to BTES from SHES to theoretically eliminate an attendance island. IMO, it does nothing of the sort. I don't actually have an issue with being moved to BTES, but the logic for it did not make sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools along Rte 50 inside the beltway's attendance boundaries are a clusterf_ck - I'm talking Graham Rd, Pine Spring, Beech Tree. And then there's Timberlane - a random school half zoned to McLean - in the middle of all that, and Shrevewood which is very overcrowded. Such a mess.

Yup, and the Stenwood parents continue to fight allowing kids who are closer to Stenwood than Shrevewood attend. It's absurd.

Stenwood is going to have its boundaries substantially changed when Frisch's Dunn Loring project is finished. Part of Shrevewood will finally move to Stenwood, and much of Stenwood (and part of Freedom Hill) will end up at Dunn Loring.

Does anyone actually think Dunn Loring is going to happen? I live near there and it's been business as usual there. No signs of any change.

This link may or may not work (the DCUM software often prevents simple links from working), but it indicates the real work on Dunn Loring isn't planned to begin until the 2023-24 school year:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/budget/sites/budget/files/assets/documents/fy2022/advertised/cip/9-fairfax%20county%20public%20schools.pdf

Shrevewood will be overcrowded for many more years.

If there is one benefit about COVID, it is that Shrevewood’s attendance is down. My kid’s class size is in the teens.

Meanwhile, the Kindergarten classes are HUGE.

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Anonymous wrote:no more AAP and AAP busing

AAP is the pride and joy of FCPS. That won’t be eliminated.

Last year or 2 years ago they basically decided to give each ES and MS a local level IV. Most people assume that will eliminate centers.

Then there’s that pilot math thread down the page with an email that, if real, says FCPS wants to move away from advanced math altogether.

There are so many factors that reduce the odds of major boundary changes. The PP's touch on a really big one, which is the impact of academic programs on enrollments. It turns into a big chicken vs. egg exercise. The boundary changes that you might make if a Carson isn't going to remain a mega-AAP center forever are very different than the changes you might make if it is.

The other big factor is the reluctance of the recent and current School Board to talk about sending kids to lower rated schools except in the most abstract terms. It's one thing for a Pat Hynes to talk generally about using boundaries as a tool to promote equity. It's another thing to actually do it - hasn't been done in FCPS for over a decade. And of course we've seen the members like Elaine Tholen who pay lip service to equity but make sure no apartments go to Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools along Rte 50 inside the beltway's attendance boundaries are a clusterf_ck - I'm talking Graham Rd, Pine Spring, Beech Tree. And then there's Timberlane - a random school half zoned to McLean - in the middle of all that, and Shrevewood which is very overcrowded. Such a mess.

Yup, and the Stenwood parents continue to fight allowing kids who are closer to Stenwood than Shrevewood attend. It's absurd.

Stenwood is going to have its boundaries substantially changed when Frisch's Dunn Loring project is finished. Part of Shrevewood will finally move to Stenwood, and much of Stenwood (and part of Freedom Hill) will end up at Dunn Loring.

Does anyone actually think Dunn Loring is going to happen? I live near there and it's been business as usual there. No signs of any change.

This link may or may not work (the DCUM software often prevents simple links from working), but it indicates the real work on Dunn Loring isn't planned to begin until the 2023-24 school year:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/budget/sites/budget/files/assets/documents/fy2022/advertised/cip/9-fairfax%20county%20public%20schools.pdf

Shrevewood will be overcrowded for many more years.

If there is one benefit about COVID, it is that Shrevewood’s attendance is down. My kid’s class size is in the teens.

Is that for real? Where did everyone go? Is it an AAP class?

Anonymous wrote:no more AAP and AAP busing

This is an idea which actually makes sense to me. Especially when you consider that most of the kids who were in AAP programs end up going to their base HS anyway. It's not like all of them go to TJHSST; if that were the case their existence would be more justified. And while I am sure they end up having good class ranks and good SAT/ACT scores in their HS, it is not clear to me that they are noticeably better than the students who went to all the "regular" schools but still took the honors/AP/IB courses which were available.

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Anonymous wrote:no more AAP and AAP busing

AAP is the pride and joy of FCPS. That won’t be eliminated.

Pray tell, what make you say that? It begins by TJ reform. It continues with an outside firm hired to examine AAP
through an equity lens. It then follows with eliminating centers and expensive busing. Finishes with AAP for all.

FCPS needs to serve all students.

While we're at it, just give everyone a perfect GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:no more AAP and AAP busing

AAP is the pride and joy of FCPS. That won’t be eliminated.

Pray tell, what make you say that? It begins by TJ reform. It continues with an outside firm hired to examine AAP
through an equity lens. It then follows with eliminating centers and expensive busing. Finishes with AAP for all.

FCPS needs to serve all students.

Anonymous wrote:I’d open more schools and make them all smaller. Better education that way. But that’s a pipe dream because of taxes.

+1. More schools and spread them out. I live within 2 miles of four different elementaries and two high schools. When schools are close together like that, some kids are traveling a looong way to school and others are passing their nearest school on the way to their zoned school. They should be more evenly distributed.

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Anonymous wrote:The schools along Rte 50 inside the beltway's attendance boundaries are a clusterf_ck - I'm talking Graham Rd, Pine Spring, Beech Tree. And then there's Timberlane - a random school half zoned to McLean - in the middle of all that, and Shrevewood which is very overcrowded. Such a mess.

Yup, and the Stenwood parents continue to fight allowing kids who are closer to Stenwood than Shrevewood attend. It's absurd.

Stenwood is going to have its boundaries substantially changed when Frisch's Dunn Loring project is finished. Part of Shrevewood will finally move to Stenwood, and much of Stenwood (and part of Freedom Hill) will end up at Dunn Loring.

Does anyone actually think Dunn Loring is going to happen? I live near there and it's been business as usual there. No signs of any change.

This link may or may not work (the DCUM software often prevents simple links from working), but it indicates the real work on Dunn Loring isn't planned to begin until the 2023-24 school year:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/budget/sites/budget/files/assets/documents/fy2022/advertised/cip/9-fairfax%20county%20public%20schools.pdf

Shrevewood will be overcrowded for many more years.

If there is one benefit about COVID, it is that Shrevewood’s attendance is down. My kid’s class size is in the teens.