Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 17:22     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:Or they could at least shut up. Some of the same people demanding schools open last year and screaming bad things about teachers are now complaining there's a teacher shortage. What did they think was going to happen with how they treated teachers? So f'in tired of listening to these same Covidiots.


I'm sick of people blaming rude parents for the current teacher shortage. Fact is, there are many reasons for the current teacher shortage, dealing with rude parents and unsupportive administrations being only two. There's also the low wages relative to other higher paying jobs and a lot of other job opportunities available. There's also the teachers who don't want to return to the classroom, yet; so their choice to leave the field. etc. etc.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 17:19     Subject: Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a SAHM that volunteers for lunch. I'm there for an hour. My kid is in 3rd grade and her class while rambunctious are still somewhat manageable. 4th graders kind of still listen if you tell them to stop doing something. 5th graders ignore you and talk back, 6th graders may curse you out. But whatever it's only an hour.

I have one kid cause that's all that I had the patience to train and deal with. Why just because I'm a SAHM should I feel obligated to deal with a bunch of kids who have no manners, and won't listen for an entire day?


You don’t and shouldn’t. But people shouldn’t expect any subs to deal with it either. Lots of people were demanding school open when they knew there was a teacher, aid and sub shortage. They are the ones that need to step up and help. Otherwise all you describe is still happening in larger classes with less supervision. Imagine what is going on in middle or the high school where I work. 6th graders are nothing.


So parents should always keep their kids home and advocate for schools to close whenever there's a teacher shortage? There are regularly teacher shortages, regardless of pandemics, you know.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 16:48     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could at least shut up. Some of the same people demanding schools open last year and screaming bad things about teachers are now complaining there's a teacher shortage. What did they think was going to happen with how they treated teachers? So f'in tired of listening to these same Covidiots.


That’s fine, keep ‘em closed, but stop spending our tax dollars on them. Why should we have paid teachers for not working? Give us that money to find a decent private school, or pay for homeschool expenses.


Yep there it is, the teacher hate from the people who wanted to open full time without mitigations last January before vaccinations, didn't care whether teachers or students died. Said school was safe enough. And accused teachers of not working when they were working harder than ever.

Can't imagine why we have a teacher shortage now.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 16:40     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could at least shut up. Some of the same people demanding schools open last year and screaming bad things about teachers are now complaining there's a teacher shortage. What did they think was going to happen with how they treated teachers? So f'in tired of listening to these same Covidiots.


That’s fine, keep ‘em closed, but stop spending our tax dollars on them. Why should we have paid teachers for not working? Give us that money to find a decent private school, or pay for homeschool expenses.


not to burst in on your fantasy here, but who exactly is teaching at all these private schools when public schools close? (Mind you private schools pay teachers way less than public)


Private schools were able to find teachers. Yes, they pay less, but the work conditions are much, much better.


Do they even require teacher certification?


Some do and some don't. There has been a lot of turnover at many private schools too. But, private schools can and have been offering a lot of safety precautions all along that public schools won't.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 13:47     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
They are probably driving busses, since bus drivers make a better hourly wage and are more highly valued apparently.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 11:50     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could at least shut up. Some of the same people demanding schools open last year and screaming bad things about teachers are now complaining there's a teacher shortage. What did they think was going to happen with how they treated teachers? So f'in tired of listening to these same Covidiots.


That’s fine, keep ‘em closed, but stop spending our tax dollars on them. Why should we have paid teachers for not working? Give us that money to find a decent private school, or pay for homeschool expenses.


not to burst in on your fantasy here, but who exactly is teaching at all these private schools when public schools close? (Mind you private schools pay teachers way less than public)


Private schools were able to find teachers. Yes, they pay less, but the work conditions are much, much better.


Do they even require teacher certification?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 11:43     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could at least shut up. Some of the same people demanding schools open last year and screaming bad things about teachers are now complaining there's a teacher shortage. What did they think was going to happen with how they treated teachers? So f'in tired of listening to these same Covidiots.


That’s fine, keep ‘em closed, but stop spending our tax dollars on them. Why should we have paid teachers for not working? Give us that money to find a decent private school, or pay for homeschool expenses.


not to burst in on your fantasy here, but who exactly is teaching at all these private schools when public schools close? (Mind you private schools pay teachers way less than public)


Private schools were able to find teachers. Yes, they pay less, but the work conditions are much, much better.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 07:30     Subject: Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents want to come in and supervise outdoor lunches for free but don't want to sub at all because then they'd have to come to grips about other inconvenient truths.


That’s not the reason. Lunch takes an hour. A full day on a regular basis would cut into Orange Theory and book club/lunch time. That’s the real truth and reason they don’t have time.


Actually, who wants to sub for parents with an attitude such as yours?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 07:28     Subject: Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you saying school should be virtual? Not sure I understand the way you’re framing this.


No way. Just that we really, really need subs. No one wants to.


I’ve thought about it but with the current school policies and, thus, climate, no way I’m stepping foot in the door.

Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 06:51     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could at least shut up. Some of the same people demanding schools open last year and screaming bad things about teachers are now complaining there's a teacher shortage. What did they think was going to happen with how they treated teachers? So f'in tired of listening to these same Covidiots.


That’s fine, keep ‘em closed, but stop spending our tax dollars on them. Why should we have paid teachers for not working? Give us that money to find a decent private school, or pay for homeschool expenses.


not to burst in on your fantasy here, but who exactly is teaching at all these private schools when public schools close? (Mind you private schools pay teachers way less than public)
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2021 22:24     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:Or they could at least shut up. Some of the same people demanding schools open last year and screaming bad things about teachers are now complaining there's a teacher shortage. What did they think was going to happen with how they treated teachers? So f'in tired of listening to these same Covidiots.


That’s fine, keep ‘em closed, but stop spending our tax dollars on them. Why should we have paid teachers for not working? Give us that money to find a decent private school, or pay for homeschool expenses.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2021 22:20     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lollll I'm not putting myself in a situation where I'm in charge of potentially out of control kids and I'm not allowed to give them any consequences or defend myself. Have you seen what's going on in ACPS? Find someone else to nanny these thugs.




It's happening in FCPS and elsewhere, too. Kids are undergoing a social reset after last year - some more destructively than others. But, please - continue to clutch those pearls.


“Social reset” is pop psychobabble for “behaving like animals because their parents abdicated their parental responsibilities for 18 months.”
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2021 22:16     Subject: Re:Promises, Promises
Or they could at least shut up. Some of the same people demanding schools open last year and screaming bad things about teachers are now complaining there's a teacher shortage. What did they think was going to happen with how they treated teachers? So f'in tired of listening to these same Covidiots.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2021 22:15     Subject: Promises, Promises
Who promised to sub? Many of us have valuable degrees that enable us to work in high-paying fields. Why would we quit to make $15/hour?
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2021 21:55     Subject: Promises, Promises
Anonymous wrote:I'm a SAHM that volunteers for lunch. I'm there for an hour. My kid is in 3rd grade and her class while rambunctious are still somewhat manageable. 4th graders kind of still listen if you tell them to stop doing something. 5th graders ignore you and talk back, 6th graders may curse you out. But whatever it's only an hour.

I have one kid cause that's all that I had the patience to train and deal with. Why just because I'm a SAHM should I feel obligated to deal with a bunch of kids who have no manners, and won't listen for an entire day?


You don’t and shouldn’t. But people shouldn’t expect any subs to deal with it either. Lots of people were demanding school open when they knew there was a teacher, aid and sub shortage. They are the ones that need to step up and help. Otherwise all you describe is still happening in larger classes with less supervision. Imagine what is going on in middle or the high school where I work. 6th graders are nothing.