Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 12:23     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:ECNL Clubs can hold ECNL cards but not State cards. Will depend on situation if in ECNL.

Seems Bethesda hater is back from a comment above. 06s, 07s, 08s, and 09s hardly lost any players. 06s lost 2 players, 07s lost 2 players but picked up 2 better ones in place, 08s did not lose any players and added 4 players, 09s lost two players but added 4 players.

Anyway, OP has has eliminated any MD ECNL squads 07 and up because season has not started yet. Could be 08s or younger or GA in Maryland. Pipeline parents aren’t especially known to post here but I have heard some of its girls teams are having internal issues.

More likely Virginia. I would gander 07 FCV. Also could be 09 Metro as there is some Cancer there. BRYC on multiple years perhaps? This does not look like Loudoun, Union, Arlington or VDA as all have gotten off to ok or better start.


I doubt it's FCV 07. They've already had someone leave that team. And the "card" would only allow them to go play for Metro, right? They're already free to join any ECNL team in the NOVA area.....
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 11:52     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD and a bunch of her friends want to leave a club mid season. Can a club hold your player card hostage or are they obligated to release it? If they hold it hostage, will a lawsuit press the matter?


Yes - and we are talking BRYC did this 100% last year to two players. Spiteful and over kids leaving they went nuclear butt hurt.


Yikes! Is this normal behavior at other clubs? I have not seen this at our club but we are not ecnl, so maybe the stakes are higher there. Personally, I would stay away from that. Yes, it’s a commitment but it goes both ways.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 11:42     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:DD and a bunch of her friends want to leave a club mid season. Can a club hold your player card hostage or are they obligated to release it? If they hold it hostage, will a lawsuit press the matter?


Yes - and we are talking BRYC did this 100% last year to two players. Spiteful and over kids leaving they went nuclear butt hurt.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 11:42     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:What are the rules for US Club Soccer cards? Anyone know?


There are no "Card Rules", there are league rules regarding the card.

It only matters if you are moving from one club in a league that uses the same card for league play as the club you are moving to.

GA, EDP, CCL, NCSL, ODLS all use VSYS

ECNL, ECNL-R any remaining NPL all use US Club.

If you are moving from one ECNL team to another then you must follow ECNL protocol and it is more complicated mid season than just getting your card.

Basically moving between teams within the same league will present issues in leagues like CCL, ECNL etc and you need to look up the league specific rules. You can change clubs in most instances it is just a matter of how much paper work may need to be filed.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 11:29     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
What are the rules for US Club Soccer cards? Anyone know?
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 11:15     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your daughter is looking to move from a team using a VYSA pass to a team using a club pass (e.g., from a CCL/EDP, NCSL team to an ECNL or GA team), then you're in luck. You don't need them to release her pass. It's a different pass altogether and the new club can just roster her.


Just to be clear, if you're leaving a CCL/EDP/NCSL team (which use VYSA passes) to go to an ECNL or GA team, the VYSA pass doesn't need to be released because ECNL/GA use something different (aka their own pass system)?


That is my understanding, yes.


Usually there are clauses about moving away so many miles that can have your commitment to pay released.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 11:13     Subject: Re:Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:if it's a VYSA card, read the VYSA posted online on their website. It's clearly written. Every league has their own rules.


There different card for different leagues. I remember my son had a USYS card and a US Club Soccer card.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 10:53     Subject: Re:Can a club refuse to release your player card?
if it's a VYSA card, read the VYSA posted online on their website. It's clearly written. Every league has their own rules.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 10:36     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD and a bunch of her friends want to leave a club mid season. Can a club hold your player card hostage or are they obligated to release it? If they hold it hostage, will a lawsuit press the matter?


I would reread the agreement that you signed. If it says it's for the whole year, they can likely keep the players card. It's bad business to do so though, and punitive. Most clubs will release you however unless you go in with guns blazing.


player cards are likely the restraint of trade. I'd love to see a parent actually challenge them


If you paid the entire bill, clubs are obligated to release you. Reach out to VYSA if you have an issue.


I'm not sure that matters. Can ford and gm make a deal that I can't purchase a chevy if I owe money on my ford and then form a body to enforce that rule?
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 10:32     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD and a bunch of her friends want to leave a club mid season. Can a club hold your player card hostage or are they obligated to release it? If they hold it hostage, will a lawsuit press the matter?


A few things to consider:
---- Is your DD looking to move from a team that uses a VYSA pass to another team that uses a VYSA pass (e.g., CCL, EDP, NCSL)? If so, here's the VYSA policy on transfers mid-season: https://dt5602vnjxv0c.cloudfront.net/portals/27433/docs/policies%20%20bylaws/vysa%20policy%20regarding%20nonpayment%20of%20club.pdf. If you've paid the fees for the entire year, it's tough for the club to hold on to the pass.
-- Your DD won't be able to move from one CCL club to another mid-year (CCL rules prohibit this unless you move and the distance is prohibitive). Likewise, she can't move from one ECNL club to another per ECNL policy.
-- If your daughter is looking to move from a team using a VYSA pass to a team using a club pass (e.g., from a CCL/EDP, NCSL team to an ECNL or GA team), then you're in luck. You don't need them to release her pass. It's a different pass altogether and the new club can just roster her.



You kids can move to any ECNL club with approval from the Club. It happens every year and much more than you know.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 10:30     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD and a bunch of her friends want to leave a club mid season. Can a club hold your player card hostage or are they obligated to release it? If they hold it hostage, will a lawsuit press the matter?


I would reread the agreement that you signed. If it says it's for the whole year, they can likely keep the players card. It's bad business to do so though, and punitive. Most clubs will release you however unless you go in with guns blazing.


player cards are likely the restraint of trade. I'd love to see a parent actually challenge them


If you paid the entire bill, clubs are obligated to release you. Reach out to VYSA if you have an issue.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 10:29     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
VYSA requires that clubs release your player card within 48 hours of making a request. They can withhold it if you haven't paid your fees, but other than that they can't.

You can CC the VYSA Registar on the email to club asking for a release and then follow up if they dont. Then the VYSA rep will have cuase to go in and release it from their level and club can't do anything about it.

Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 10:24     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD and a bunch of her friends want to leave a club mid season. Can a club hold your player card hostage or are they obligated to release it? If they hold it hostage, will a lawsuit press the matter?


I would reread the agreement that you signed. If it says it's for the whole year, they can likely keep the players card. It's bad business to do so though, and punitive. Most clubs will release you however unless you go in with guns blazing.


player cards are likely the restraint of trade. I'd love to see a parent actually challenge them
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 10:20     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:DD and a bunch of her friends want to leave a club mid season. Can a club hold your player card hostage or are they obligated to release it? If they hold it hostage, will a lawsuit press the matter?


Good riddance, quitters
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 10:19     Subject: Can a club refuse to release your player card?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD and a bunch of her friends want to leave a club mid season. Can a club hold your player card hostage or are they obligated to release it? If they hold it hostage, will a lawsuit press the matter?


It's not even mid season. Why do you want to leave already? You haven't given it a chance.


Right. Do they have the minimal # of players and recognizing it's a struggle to get new players? Or club politics that bad?


We are in a situation like this where it isn't what we thought we signed up for. They lumped several ages into one group and my kid is playing up a couple years... and the fall game season was canceled. I'd like my kid to play on an age appropriate team with some matches.


I too would be looking for a new team for my DC if I were you. The club didn’t fulfill its part of the deal.


PP could be referring to a rec league.