Interesting discussion thread: https://twitter.com/karol/status/1443764693303283720?s=21

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/01/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

There are new meds that could be approved that should help when people do get sick.

DS wears a mask because it is required, so do I, but will be thrilled to not have to wear a mask. They are not comfortable. Yeah for everyone who thinks that are easy and we should all just stop complaining but they are not comfortable. I didn't like scarves as a kid and I don't like masks as an adult. My kid is not a fan of wearing his mask. He does without complaint because it is required for attending school and other activities but compliance does not equate with "its no big deal."

I am ready for this offramp both for my kids and for myself! I have to wear a mask 8 hrs a day in my office despite a 90%+ vax rate. Ridiculous.

Other countries are not masking kids because it’s fact based rather than political.

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop it with the anti masking and move to Florida or Texas if you want to live where Covid spreads freely and you have your "rights"

Or you could move to England, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, certain areas of France or Germany, or certain areas of Spain soon (all with maskless schools for kids under 12).

Yes this is what I’m struggling with. Why does America ignore the rest of the world?

Some of those countries have had real lock downs, limit travel, etc. which is why its much safer there.

Many of those countries have stopped all mitigation methods! Just admit - you have "faith" in the mask, not science.

It is not because they have “beaten the virus”; among European countries, the case rates, vaccination rates, and mortality rates cover a wide range, above and below those rates here in the U.S. It is because all of these other nations recognize the harms these burdens impose on kids.

And although the risk of COVID is of course not zero, relative to so many other dangers that children face, from drowning to suicide to car accidents to other respiratory viruses, COVID is below all of them.

Yes by all means lets inject kids with something with no long term safety record to protect the adults.

Seems responsible.

You do realize at this point BILLIONS of people worldwide have been vaccinated. The data is there. It is safe and effective.

Anonymous wrote:Doubt it. You could get 100% of kids vaccinated and the school board would say everyone has to wear masks to prevent breakthrough cases. The nightmare never ends.

It’s all about control not your health. My child will not be vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop it with the anti masking and move to Florida or Texas if you want to live where Covid spreads freely and you have your "rights"

Or you could move to England, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, certain areas of France or Germany, or certain areas of Spain soon (all with maskless schools for kids under 12).

Yes this is what I’m struggling with. Why does America ignore the rest of the world?

Some of those countries have had real lock downs, limit travel, etc. which is why its much safer there.

Anonymous wrote:It's just not that big a deal to wear a mask. I can't believe how overdramatic people are about it. It's not that big of an inconvenience. I wear one at work, my son wears one at school, he often forgets he even has it on and forgets to take it off when he gets home.

I know, right??

I can hold my breath for 3 minutes under water, can you??

It's just not that big a deal to hold your breath for that long.
I can't believe how overdramatic people are about it.
It's not that big of an inconvenience.
I often forget that I have to come up for air after 3 minutes, and I forget to come up to the surface when I run out of air. 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous wrote:Doubt it. You could get 100% of kids vaccinated and the school board would say everyone has to wear masks to prevent breakthrough cases. The nightmare never ends.

Such absurd melodrama. God help you when you actually encounter a REAL "nightmare" in your life. You'll crumble to dust.

Are you saying this is at a possibility? Or that it happening isn’t a nightmare?

PP here. are you saying *this isn’t a possibility*?

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Anonymous wrote:Doubt it. You could get 100% of kids vaccinated and the school board would say everyone has to wear masks to prevent breakthrough cases. The nightmare never ends.

Such absurd melodrama. God help you when you actually encounter a REAL "nightmare" in your life. You'll crumble to dust.

Are you saying this is at a possibility? Or that it happening isn’t a nightmare?

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop it with the anti masking and move to Florida or Texas if you want to live where Covid spreads freely and you have your "rights"

Or you could move to England, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, certain areas of France or Germany, or certain areas of Spain soon (all with maskless schools for kids under 12).

Yes this is what I’m struggling with. Why does America ignore the rest of the world?

Anonymous wrote:I know too many vaccinated people who have gotten Covid since Delta came our way. I was ok with unmasking back in early summer but not now. And not how kids are packed into schools.

Getting COVID can no longer be try standArd.

Anonymous wrote:you people who think vaccines are magic and all that's needed are living back in June 2021. Things have changed quite a lot since then or haven't you noticed. You need to adjust.

For what duration? Until Covid disappears? Until 100% of people, including children, are vaccinated? Neither of those things are ever going to happen. There needs to be some metric or goal post for life returning to normal.

I know too many vaccinated people who have gotten Covid since Delta came our way. I was ok with unmasking back in early summer but not now. And not how kids are packed into schools.