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Depends on the age of the kid. My child is in 3rd grade and I don't think he even knows what the word dick means. However I know kids in high school who clearly know it, know kids who have tugged on them behind the bushes, etc. I could see this being fodder for discussion w/a group of junior/seniors about consensual sex, pressure to have sex. regret after sex, etc.

Did you hear her read the language? I would not want my high school DD having to sit through a discussion of this.

And, when I was in high school, we thought Chaucer was dirty....

It was disgusting. My husband came into the room and asked what the hell I was watching. Pretty disturbing crap. Especially if it’s about a 4th grade boy and an adult. How is that even legal?

Legal? Another Republican who doesn’t believe in the constitution, I see.

Since when does the constitution protect the right to be a child molester?

You realize this is a book, right?

Gender Queer is a graphic novel that contains a very graphic sex scene involving a strap on dildo and a blow job. Lawn Boy is a novel that includes a scene involving a 4th grader having sex with an older man. both are available at FCPS high school libraries. Yes, you can opt out but that still begs the question is there anything that is inappropriate to have in a school library? If there is a line and I think there is, these two books seem to cross it. I would also say that its easy to say opt your kid out or watch what they check out but if you have a teen you know that is hard to do and many parents aren't that involved.

This is not censorship....its just common sense to say that a high school library is not the place for any media containing graphic sex scenes.

The two books
Gender Queer sextibg about being inside each other and then show one boy giving another boy a blow job. Very Clear is was penis.
Lawn Boy very graphic discription if a minor having sex with a grown man. I believe the child is 11 years old

It took all of 30 seconds of googling based on this thread to realize that there are two books called "Lawn Boy" one is about a fourth grader who runs a lawn service and the other is about a guy in his early twenties who worked on a lawn crew. The sexual content was clearly from the latter. Feel however you will about explicit content generally, but you either allowed yourself to be easily duped by a bunch of puritans who hate the fact that there's a book about a gay brown person in a school into thinking this was somehow illegal or are purposefully conflating parts of the two similarly titled books to try to make a point about a sex scene in print. Neither is a good look.

The speaker was not conflating the two. Sounds like you are. And, this is about the language in the book--and, I understood her to say there were graphics, as well.

Anonymous wrote:It's in a Secondary School library. Are the middle school books kept separately from the high school ones?

And, I am a defender of free speech--but this is a school library where the readers are minors.

They also have choice to NOT check the book out. I feel no need to protect my HS from the word di*k. The kids are watching porn on the bus.

Anonymous wrote:To Kill a Mockingbird, Of Mice and Men, The Bluest Eye. All on the most challenged books of 2020. A slippery slope. https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/top10

PP, if you don’t want your kid discussing a book, opt her out.

+1,000 - thank you!

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Depends on the age of the kid. My child is in 3rd grade and I don't think he even knows what the word dick means. However I know kids in high school who clearly know it, know kids who have tugged on them behind the bushes, etc. I could see this being fodder for discussion w/a group of junior/seniors about consensual sex, pressure to have sex. regret after sex, etc.

Did you hear her read the language? I would not want my high school DD having to sit through a discussion of this.

And, when I was in high school, we thought Chaucer was dirty....

It was disgusting. My husband came into the room and asked what the hell I was watching. Pretty disturbing crap. Especially if it’s about a 4th grade boy and an adult. How is that even legal?

Legal? Another Republican who doesn’t believe in the constitution, I see.

Since when does the constitution protect the right to be a child molester?

It took all of 30 seconds of googling based on this thread to realize that there are two books called "Lawn Boy" one is about a fourth grader who runs a lawn service and the other is about a guy in his early twenties who worked on a lawn crew. The sexual content was clearly from the latter. Feel however you will about explicit content generally, but you either allowed yourself to be easily duped by a bunch of puritans who hate the fact that there's a book about a gay brown person in a school into thinking this was somehow illegal or are purposefully conflating parts of the two similarly titled books to try to make a point about a sex scene in print. Neither is a good look.

It's in a Secondary School library. Are the middle school books kept separately from the high school ones?



And, I am a defender of free speech--but this is a school library where the readers are minors.

All books that are used in English classes go through a review process that includes a committee with parents of students at the school. Additionally, all books are listed on the syllabus at the beginning of the year and parents have to sign that they have read the syllabus. You can opt your kid out of reading any of the books. Generally NBD as most schools have moved to kids reading books in literature circles (a few book chioces each unit centered around a theme). As for books in the library, you can ask your kid what they are checking out or have them pull up their library account.

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous behavior by that woman. Stop talking when your time is up and opt your kid out if you don’t want them to read a book. FCPS makes that very easy. What is this, Alabama?

Her time was not up. She was told to stop because there were children in the room. But, it is okay to have in a high school library The language offended me but she was making a valid point. Board member, should have asked her to stop and thanked her for bringing it to their attention. Instead, she became angry. It was extremely offensive--but, how else do you get the attention of this School Board?

Yes, somethings are appropriate for 16 year olds and not 7 year olds. Apparently that’s a novel concept

That book is not appropriate for 16 year olds. Does Robinson Secondary School have a separate library for the middle school? And, by the way, lots of high school students are well under 16.

That book is porn.

Her post on the Robinson parents Facebook page said it was assigned reading for one of the IB English classes for 11th graders. The moderators have deleted it so I didn’t catch whether the kids had a choice or not. But the majority of the parents responding said it wasn’t porn, just sexually explicit, and the most vocal were generally okay with it “because kids are reading that type of stuff in 2021 anyway so no big deal”.

I’m trying not to overreact and start researching Catholic high schools because of one book but it’s hard not to get upset.

We’re talking a few pages in a 300 page book.

You can read the book online at https://www.bookscool.com/classic/Lawn-Boy-662487/1 and decide for yourselves whether it is appropriate for HS students.

Free speech. You w the difference between writing and a criminal action, right? Wow, the ignorance continues to astonish me.

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Depends on the age of the kid. My child is in 3rd grade and I don't think he even knows what the word dick means. However I know kids in high school who clearly know it, know kids who have tugged on them behind the bushes, etc. I could see this being fodder for discussion w/a group of junior/seniors about consensual sex, pressure to have sex. regret after sex, etc.

Did you hear her read the language? I would not want my high school DD having to sit through a discussion of this.

And, when I was in high school, we thought Chaucer was dirty....

It was disgusting. My husband came into the room and asked what the hell I was watching. Pretty disturbing crap. Especially if it’s about a 4th grade boy and an adult. How is that even legal?

Legal? Another Republican who doesn’t believe in the constitution, I see.

Since when does the constitution protect the right to be a child molester?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Depends on the age of the kid. My child is in 3rd grade and I don't think he even knows what the word dick means. However I know kids in high school who clearly know it, know kids who have tugged on them behind the bushes, etc. I could see this being fodder for discussion w/a group of junior/seniors about consensual sex, pressure to have sex. regret after sex, etc.

Did you hear her read the language? I would not want my high school DD having to sit through a discussion of this.

And, when I was in high school, we thought Chaucer was dirty....

It was disgusting. My husband came into the room and asked what the hell I was watching. Pretty disturbing crap. Especially if it’s about a 4th grade boy and an adult. How is that even legal?

Legal? Another Republican who doesn’t believe in the constitution, I see.

To Kill a Mockingbird, Of Mice and Men, The Bluest Eye. All on the most challenged books of 2020. A slippery slope. https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/top10

PP, if you don’t want your kid discussing a book, opt her out.