Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:43     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Columbia?

No.

This survey has NO credibility.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:38     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who are the biggest movers??


University of Florida rise over the past several years.


Formula shifted to weight student debt and pell % very heavily. Florida and California schools are national leaders in both.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:27     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:Who are the biggest movers??


University of Florida rise over the past several years.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:24     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many ties! That four-way tie for 9th makes sense, but is also a little ridiculous. This supports the larger hypothesis that there are probably around 15 universities that are all “top 10 level”


Of course.

Just as you could fill the incoming classes of T10 schools with highly qualified students at least 10 times over the number normally admitted and not lose any quality. That's why the rankings are largely meaningless.


They should be, but they are unfortunately significant for a segment of the population.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:23     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:Who are the biggest movers??


There seems to be very little significant movement. Last big change was when they started factoring Pell grants.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:21     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:So many ties! That four-way tie for 9th makes sense, but is also a little ridiculous. This supports the larger hypothesis that there are probably around 15 universities that are all “top 10 level”


Of course.

Just as you could fill the incoming classes of T10 schools with highly qualified students at least 10 times over the number normally admitted and not lose any quality. That's why the rankings are largely meaningless.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:13     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Who are the biggest movers??
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:11     Subject: Re:2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is just no way that all the secondary and tertiary UC schools are as good as their USNWR ranking. I have several colleagues from CA, and they just laugh. One colleague mentioned that UCSB used to be known as a stoner school.


They are nowhere near as good for undergraduate study as a number of schools they are in front of. It must have to do with the boost from Pell grants.

+1. It's downright silly.

Now that UCs are test blind and most others test optional, I suppose US News will remove scores from the formula completely for whichever year class of 2025's scores would have shown up in the calculation. With UC GPAs seeming very high, I'm sure they'll rise even further in the ranking.


The UC rankings are beginning to test the credulity of the rankings.

+1


UC Davis is tied with Georgia Tech, UT Austin, and William & Mary. I don't get that.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:10     Subject: Re:2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:UVA is top 25 again baby, suck a fat one UVA bashers!!!



Well deserved.!!
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:09     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:How has Wake Forest, which had already been test optional so only those with the highest scores submit, hang on at 28 tied with Tufts when it has much lower standardized scores? Wake also is ahead of schools schools like Rochester, Boston College, Georgia Tech, William & Mary, BU, etc. that all have higher scores as well. It is a fine school, but I've never understood its ranking.

+1, same. But, at least its ranking has been relatively stable over the years.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:08     Subject: Re:2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is just no way that all the secondary and tertiary UC schools are as good as their USNWR ranking. I have several colleagues from CA, and they just laugh. One colleague mentioned that UCSB used to be known as a stoner school.


They are nowhere near as good for undergraduate study as a number of schools they are in front of. It must have to do with the boost from Pell grants.

+1. It's downright silly.

Now that UCs are test blind and most others test optional, I suppose US News will remove scores from the formula completely for whichever year class of 2025's scores would have shown up in the calculation. With UC GPAs seeming very high, I'm sure they'll rise even further in the ranking.


The UC rankings are beginning to test the credulity of the rankings.

+1
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:07     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Wow University of Florida at #28
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:05     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
Anonymous wrote:So many ties! That four-way tie for 9th makes sense, but is also a little ridiculous. This supports the larger hypothesis that there are probably around 15 universities that are all “top 10 level”


There are way more than 25 that could make some sort of claim to top 25 depending on how you look at it and what matters to you.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:03     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
How has Wake Forest, which had already been test optional so only those with the highest scores submit, hang on at 28 tied with Tufts when it has much lower standardized scores? Wake also is ahead of schools schools like Rochester, Boston College, Georgia Tech, William & Mary, BU, etc. that all have higher scores as well. It is a fine school, but I've never understood its ranking.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2021 22:02     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities
University of Florida is tied for 5th best Public University! UF keeps on rising as number 28 overall this year. Go Gators!!!

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