I'm saying that vets, especially veterinary nutritionists do know about food and that it's better to look for food that follows WSAVA standards than to listen to a hobbyist.

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DP. Expensive isn’t necessarily better. I’ve had more than one vet recommend Purina Pro Plan, and strongly advise against anything with “Blue” in the name.

Vets don’t know much about nutrition.

But we should follow the recommendations of dogfoodadvisor.com, a retired dentist? Pass.

Even if that's true for most vets, I don't know how you can make that claim for veterinary nutritionists.

https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/tag/grain-free/

I'm not sure what you are trying to prove..... Many of the dog food brands mentioned here have grain inclusive formulas.
https://www.chewy.com/farmina-nd-ancestral-grain-lamb/dp/202218
https://www.chewy.com/honest-kitchen-food-clusters-whole/dp/248521

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DP. Expensive isn’t necessarily better. I’ve had more than one vet recommend Purina Pro Plan, and strongly advise against anything with “Blue” in the name.

Vets don’t know much about nutrition.

But we should follow the recommendations of dogfoodadvisor.com, a retired dentist? Pass.

Even if that's true for most vets, I don't know how you can make that claim for veterinary nutritionists.

https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/tag/grain-free/

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Anonymous wrote:Those very expensive brands have problems because people don’t buy enough of it to make a profit.

Any proof to back this up? Last I read, more and more people want their pets to eat better and are willing to pay more for a healthier pet. Also, right now the pet product industry is booming.

All those recalls a few years ago. I just don’t trust them.

Anonymous wrote:There is too much garbage in dog food these days. Read the ingredients on some of these more expensive and holistic brands and you will be surprised at all of the random roots, supplements, oils and homeopathic type crap they’re putting in there. Dogs don’t need any of that. We stick to solid brands and limited quality ingredients.

That's why I really like Honest Kitchen. Their recipes are simple whole ingredients. The fact that it's Human Grade means you don't need to worry about all of these feed grade recalls we have been having.

There is too much garbage in dog food these days. Read the ingredients on some of these more expensive and holistic brands and you will be surprised at all of the random roots, supplements, oils and homeopathic type crap they’re putting in there. Dogs don’t need any of that. We stick to solid brands and limited quality ingredients.

Anonymous wrote:Taco Bell?

Nah, too much salt....

Taco Bell?

We feed our German Shepherds a mix of Taste of the Wild and people foods. Grain free is not healthy for most dogs. They need some grains in their diet.

Anonymous wrote:Those very expensive brands have problems because people don’t buy enough of it to make a profit.

Any proof to back this up? Last I read, more and more people want their pets to eat better and are willing to pay more for a healthier pet. Also, right now the pet product industry is booming.

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I'm the poster with all the greys and. posting about supplementing. Don't worry about grain free hurting your dogs. I honestly don't worry about that as that is a new complaint. My dog kibble is grain free but their supplements, canned food and treats is not grain free, I guess. My dogs have never had heart problems and I don't know anyone whose dogs have died from it.

I assume OP would prefer something with more scientific evidence to support its benefits.

OP, does your dog dislike all Purina, or have you only tried Purina One? My dog loves Pro Plan -- when he had some GI issues, he was on boiled chicken and rice for a while, and when I started reintroducing his regular food, he picked out the Pro Plan and left the chicken and rice.

He's not a picky eater, though. Usually, if it's on the floor, he's happy to clean up.

Just out of curiosity, have you actually looked at the ingredients in Purina's kibbles? There is a reason why it's cheap.

DP. Expensive isn’t necessarily better. I’ve had more than one vet recommend Purina Pro Plan, and strongly advise against anything with “Blue” in the name.

Vets don’t know much about nutrition.

Diamond Naturals is the cheapest recommended.

Those very expensive brands have problems because people don’t buy enough of it to make a profit.

Something to be aware of with all the recent recalls.
https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/canine-nutrition/aflatoxin/

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I'm the poster with all the greys and. posting about supplementing. Don't worry about grain free hurting your dogs. I honestly don't worry about that as that is a new complaint. My dog kibble is grain free but their supplements, canned food and treats is not grain free, I guess. My dogs have never had heart problems and I don't know anyone whose dogs have died from it.

I assume OP would prefer something with more scientific evidence to support its benefits.

OP, does your dog dislike all Purina, or have you only tried Purina One? My dog loves Pro Plan -- when he had some GI issues, he was on boiled chicken and rice for a while, and when I started reintroducing his regular food, he picked out the Pro Plan and left the chicken and rice.

He's not a picky eater, though. Usually, if it's on the floor, he's happy to clean up.

Just out of curiosity, have you actually looked at the ingredients in Purina's kibbles? There is a reason why it's cheap.

DP. Expensive isn’t necessarily better. I’ve had more than one vet recommend Purina Pro Plan, and strongly advise against anything with “Blue” in the name.

I would never feed Blue Buffalo either. Vets recommend the big brands of dog food because that is what they are taught to recommend in vet school. The big brands send reps to the schools and vet offices to tell them all the reasons why they should recommend their brands to first time pet owners. On top of that, many vets sell Purina, Iams, or Eukanuba and they get a portion of the sales. I want my dog's food to be filled with high quality ingredients, not fillers like soybean meal or corn gluten. When I consider a new food to add to our rotation, I want the company to explain why they chose each ingredient and how it will benefit my dog. I also want the protein sources to come from high quality meat sources, not animal byproduct, or plant based proteins like pea, lentil, beans, or potato. Also, my childhood dog was fed some form of Purina his entire life and he died at 10 from DCM.