Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:43
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.
Which they attend by choice.
And 45 minutes < 65 minutes
again, what is your alternative suggestion?
What do you mean, "again"? Are you asking me for what I think MCPS should decide with regards to the boundary study? I mean I have an opinion but the point of my post above is that sending the low income kids who opt in to Whitman involves much longer trips than those in Option 3.
alternative suggestion to not make the bus ride so long.
Any of the options offered by the consultants would make kids' bus rides shorter
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:42
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.
Which they attend by choice.
And 45 minutes < 65 minutes
again, what is your alternative suggestion?
What do you mean, "again"? Are you asking me for what I think MCPS should decide with regards to the boundary study? I mean I have an opinion but the point of my post above is that sending the low income kids who opt in to Whitman involves much longer trips than those in Option 3.
alternative suggestion to not make the bus ride so long.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:41
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..
on a bus with multiple stops and not using 495 it's easily 45 minutes. Blair isn't quite in dtss.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:40
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.
Which they attend by choice.
And 45 minutes < 65 minutes
again, what is your alternative suggestion?
What do you mean, "again"? Are you asking me for what I think MCPS should decide with regards to the boundary study? I mean I have an opinion but the point of my post above is that sending the low income kids who opt in to Whitman involves much longer trips than those in Option 3.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:38
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:37
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Why do people assume low income kids want to go to Whitman? Huge culture clash and they will not be welcomed.
BOE wants them there, per Option 3.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:29
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Why do people assume low income kids want to go to Whitman? Huge culture clash and they will not be welcomed.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:26
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.
Which they attend by choice.
yes which is contemplated as a choice for going to Whitman.....
If you are saying that kids should only CHOOSE to take long bus rides, I agree with you.
I would have no problem with this. Open up Whitman and other schools with relatively low poverty rates to a county-wise lottery and let people get their on their own. But I don’t think that Whitman, a gen Ed program, is nearly as good for Hs as a CES program is for ES. I think people would rather go to RMIB or Blair SMACS where the quality of programming is much higher.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:23
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.
Which they attend by choice.
And 45 minutes < 65 minutes
again, what is your alternative suggestion?
Anonymous
06/14/2025 14:23
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And just a reminder that "Option 5" involves the longest travel times for kids and apparently for exclusively FARMS kids.
No it doesn't. It's shorter travel for many. Including the FARMS kids currently in Garrett Park.
Where would their "central bus stop" be?
Rosemary Hills? DTSS?
It will take kids about 35 minutes to get from Garrett Park to Rosemary Hills on public transit (assuming bus is on time) in addition to the 30 minute ride from Rosemary Hills to Whitman. So over an hour.
ok what is a better solution?
Hour-long bus rides already seem contemplated in Option 3, for purposes of equalizing FARMS rates.
Which ones in Option 3 would be 1 hour?
CC to Blair could easily be an hour in a bus during rush hour. I have had that drive take me 45 min in a car during rush hour. East west highway sucks in the morning.
I don’t know about Farmland to Kennedy but that’s like 6.7 miles.
Then there’s busing the Rosemary Hills kids to Whitman.
There’s other islands that I’d be concerned with but I’m not familiar enough with the routes.
Also important to remember that the public transit times will be the applicable ones for kids who miss the bus and for parents without cars.
The public transit time I listed above was based on a proposal to have FARMS kids that opt in to get bused from "centralized" bus stops to Whitman. If they don't have a car they will need to get to the "centralized bus stop" somehow.
It does not take 45 minutes to get from Chevy Chase to Blair against rush hour traffic even if you avoid 495. That's the beauty of sending kids from west to east. Of course if there is a big crash, it will take longer, just like literally any other trip.
we agree that the bus rides will be 45 minutes from some of these islands to other places. 45 minutes is a long bus ride. people are going to make other choices rather than send their kids on 45 minute bus rides. which means the thing you are trying to correct (uneven fARMS rates) won't happen.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 13:55
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.
Which they attend by choice.
And 45 minutes < 65 minutes
Anonymous
06/14/2025 13:54
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And just a reminder that "Option 5" involves the longest travel times for kids and apparently for exclusively FARMS kids.
No it doesn't. It's shorter travel for many. Including the FARMS kids currently in Garrett Park.
Where would their "central bus stop" be?
Rosemary Hills? DTSS?
It will take kids about 35 minutes to get from Garrett Park to Rosemary Hills on public transit (assuming bus is on time) in addition to the 30 minute ride from Rosemary Hills to Whitman. So over an hour.
ok what is a better solution?
Hour-long bus rides already seem contemplated in Option 3, for purposes of equalizing FARMS rates.
Which ones in Option 3 would be 1 hour?
CC to Blair could easily be an hour in a bus during rush hour. I have had that drive take me 45 min in a car during rush hour. East west highway sucks in the morning.
I don’t know about Farmland to Kennedy but that’s like 6.7 miles.
Then there’s busing the Rosemary Hills kids to Whitman.
There’s other islands that I’d be concerned with but I’m not familiar enough with the routes.
Also important to remember that the public transit times will be the applicable ones for kids who miss the bus and for parents without cars.
The public transit time I listed above was based on a proposal to have FARMS kids that opt in to get bused from "centralized" bus stops to Whitman. If they don't have a car they will need to get to the "centralized bus stop" somehow.
It does not take 45 minutes to get from Chevy Chase to Blair against rush hour traffic even if you avoid 495. That's the beauty of sending kids from west to east. Of course if there is a big crash, it will take longer, just like literally any other trip.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 13:51
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.
Which they attend by choice.
yes which is contemplated as a choice for going to Whitman.....
If you are saying that kids should only CHOOSE to take long bus rides, I agree with you.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 13:48
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.
Which they attend by choice.
Anonymous
06/14/2025 13:46
Subject: Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up
Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.