Anonymous
07/30/2025 08:14
Subject: Re:Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
That wasn't even what the 2007 falling-out was over. The real story is that Epstein poached a piece of real estate out from under Trump that Trump wanted to buy.
Myth.
NOT EVEN REMOTELY a "myth"
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-and-epstein-friendship-timeline
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/white-house-insists-trump-fell-out-with-epstein-for-being-a-creep-not-their-2019-real-estate-dispute/ar-AA1IX8CK
the falling out between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein stemmed from a 2004 real estate bidding war over a lavish Palm Beach mansion—not from moral outrage or personal misconduct, as later claimed by Trump’s team.
Here’s the breakdown:
The Property
The estate was a 6-acre oceanfront mansion in Palm Beach, formerly owned by nursing home magnate Abe Gosman.
It was auctioned off in bankruptcy court, and both Trump and Epstein were vying for it.
The Bidding War
Trump ultimately outbid Epstein, winning the property with a $41.35 million offer.
According to the property’s trustee, both men tried to undermine each other’s credibility during negotiations:
Trump reportedly said Epstein “doesn’t have the money.”
Epstein allegedly countered that Trump was “all talk”.
Aftermath and Fallout
Trump later sold the mansion to Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, nearly doubling his investment.
The incident reportedly soured their relationship, with Trump allegedly calling Epstein to curse him out over the ordeal.
Again, the timeline is CLEAR.
Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" and "likes them on the young side" BEFORE the real estate blowup, and AFTER he KNEW that Epstein was recruiting teenaged girls right from Mar-A-Lago.
That was the story. But Trump came out yesterday and claimed he and Epstein fell out due to Epstein poaching MAL employees. It's on tape. Most attorneys and investigators know that the truth does not change, so one of the stories is a lie.
Yet the timeline quite clearly shows that Epstein was still at Mar-A-Lago and still being touted as a "terrific guy" by Trump for years after the "poaching" incident with Virginia Giuffre (and there were likely others). Maybe Trump was annoyed later on that Epstein cleaned out the younger and prettier ones, but the mere fact of Epstein poaching girls was never the core issue of their falling-out and the timeline reflects that.
He’s attempting to rewrite history. I also suspect Ghislane was coached last week on his story.
Question is, will MAGA buy the lies this time?
Anonymous
07/30/2025 08:07
Subject: Re:Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
That wasn't even what the 2007 falling-out was over. The real story is that Epstein poached a piece of real estate out from under Trump that Trump wanted to buy.
Myth.
NOT EVEN REMOTELY a "myth"
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-and-epstein-friendship-timeline
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/white-house-insists-trump-fell-out-with-epstein-for-being-a-creep-not-their-2019-real-estate-dispute/ar-AA1IX8CK
the falling out between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein stemmed from a 2004 real estate bidding war over a lavish Palm Beach mansion—not from moral outrage or personal misconduct, as later claimed by Trump’s team.
Here’s the breakdown:
The Property
The estate was a 6-acre oceanfront mansion in Palm Beach, formerly owned by nursing home magnate Abe Gosman.
It was auctioned off in bankruptcy court, and both Trump and Epstein were vying for it.
The Bidding War
Trump ultimately outbid Epstein, winning the property with a $41.35 million offer.
According to the property’s trustee, both men tried to undermine each other’s credibility during negotiations:
Trump reportedly said Epstein “doesn’t have the money.”
Epstein allegedly countered that Trump was “all talk”.
Aftermath and Fallout
Trump later sold the mansion to Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, nearly doubling his investment.
The incident reportedly soured their relationship, with Trump allegedly calling Epstein to curse him out over the ordeal.
Again, the timeline is CLEAR.
Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" and "likes them on the young side" BEFORE the real estate blowup, and AFTER he KNEW that Epstein was recruiting teenaged girls right from Mar-A-Lago.
That was the story. But Trump came out yesterday and claimed he and Epstein fell out due to Epstein poaching MAL employees. It's on tape. Most attorneys and investigators know that the truth does not change, so one of the stories is a lie.
Yet the timeline quite clearly shows that Epstein was still at Mar-A-Lago and still being touted as a "terrific guy" by Trump for years after the "poaching" incident with Virginia Giuffre (and there were likely others). Maybe Trump was annoyed later on that Epstein cleaned out the younger and prettier ones, but the mere fact of Epstein poaching girls was never the core issue of their falling-out and the timeline reflects that.
Honestly, I think it’s because Guiffre was young and a virgin before Maxwell and Epstein trafficked her.
If you followed the Katie Robert’s testimony, it sounded like he has a serious preference for those who were young and known to be virgins. It tracks with him being a germ phobe.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 08:03
Subject: Re:Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
That wasn't even what the 2007 falling-out was over. The real story is that Epstein poached a piece of real estate out from under Trump that Trump wanted to buy.
Myth.
NOT EVEN REMOTELY a "myth"
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-and-epstein-friendship-timeline
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/white-house-insists-trump-fell-out-with-epstein-for-being-a-creep-not-their-2019-real-estate-dispute/ar-AA1IX8CK
the falling out between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein stemmed from a 2004 real estate bidding war over a lavish Palm Beach mansion—not from moral outrage or personal misconduct, as later claimed by Trump’s team.
Here’s the breakdown:
The Property
The estate was a 6-acre oceanfront mansion in Palm Beach, formerly owned by nursing home magnate Abe Gosman.
It was auctioned off in bankruptcy court, and both Trump and Epstein were vying for it.
The Bidding War
Trump ultimately outbid Epstein, winning the property with a $41.35 million offer.
According to the property’s trustee, both men tried to undermine each other’s credibility during negotiations:
Trump reportedly said Epstein “doesn’t have the money.”
Epstein allegedly countered that Trump was “all talk”.
Aftermath and Fallout
Trump later sold the mansion to Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, nearly doubling his investment.
The incident reportedly soured their relationship, with Trump allegedly calling Epstein to curse him out over the ordeal.
Again, the timeline is CLEAR.
Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" and "likes them on the young side" BEFORE the real estate blowup, and AFTER he KNEW that Epstein was recruiting teenaged girls right from Mar-A-Lago.
That was the story. But Trump came out yesterday and claimed he and Epstein fell out due to Epstein poaching MAL employees. It's on tape. Most attorneys and investigators know that the truth does not change, so one of the stories is a lie.
He's having trouble keeping his lies straight.
In his defense, telling massive lies to the entire world while suffering from dementia would be extremely challenging. He’s doing his best.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 07:58
Subject: Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does anyone believe a word he says? Like, Oh, I se -- it was because he poached his employees. Oh brother. The man in is a complete and total liar. Do you think he's going to tell you the truth about his pedophile friend and neighbor? Obviously not! It's like when someone is convicted of murder and people who knew them are upset because they lied. Well of course they lied -- they're murderers. What do you expect?
Trump is a liar. He was friends with a child rapist and did nothing to stop it. He should be in jail with Ghislaine Maxwell.
I could see getting upset when someone poaches your top salesman or raids your executives who have been with you for years, but a teenage massage therapist who isn’t even a certified massage therapist and she mostly took care of the towels and rooms, did a lot of prep work. She hadn’t graduated from high school yet. It’s like Epstein stealing the high schooler who empties the trash part-time on weekends. Very low value and easily replaced. They aren’t the type of jobs you end a fifteen year close friendship over. Trump lies and lies and lies..
This exactly. In reality/normal situations, someone else manages the spa and Trump would barely even know those employees, especially teenage part-timers. Certainly would not end a close friendship over her.
If 2 wealthy businessmen got in a huge fight over my teenage daughter working for them, I would be extremely alarmed.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 07:51
Subject: Epstein Files
Trump says Epstein “stole” teenage employees from him. When asked to clarify if Virginia Giuffre was one, he confirmed and said “he stole her.”
He said he never had “the privilege” of going to the island.
He is so close to an (accidental) full-on confession. We just need to put a microphone on him and let him continue rambling.
He said he never had “the privilege” of going to the island.
He is so close to an (accidental) full-on confession. We just need to put a microphone on him and let him continue rambling.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 07:46
Subject: Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Why does anyone believe a word he says? Like, Oh, I se -- it was because he poached his employees. Oh brother. The man in is a complete and total liar. Do you think he's going to tell you the truth about his pedophile friend and neighbor? Obviously not! It's like when someone is convicted of murder and people who knew them are upset because they lied. Well of course they lied -- they're murderers. What do you expect?
Trump is a liar. He was friends with a child rapist and did nothing to stop it. He should be in jail with Ghislaine Maxwell.
I could see getting upset when someone poaches your top salesman or raids your executives who have been with you for years, but a teenage massage therapist who isn’t even a certified massage therapist and she mostly took care of the towels and rooms, did a lot of prep work. She hadn’t graduated from high school yet. It’s like Epstein stealing the high schooler who empties the trash part-time on weekends. Very low value and easily replaced. They aren’t the type of jobs you end a fifteen year close friendship over. Trump lies and lies and lies..
Anonymous
Anonymous
07/30/2025 07:16
Subject: Re:Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
That wasn't even what the 2007 falling-out was over. The real story is that Epstein poached a piece of real estate out from under Trump that Trump wanted to buy.
Myth.
NOT EVEN REMOTELY a "myth"
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-and-epstein-friendship-timeline
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/white-house-insists-trump-fell-out-with-epstein-for-being-a-creep-not-their-2019-real-estate-dispute/ar-AA1IX8CK
the falling out between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein stemmed from a 2004 real estate bidding war over a lavish Palm Beach mansion—not from moral outrage or personal misconduct, as later claimed by Trump’s team.
Here’s the breakdown:
The Property
The estate was a 6-acre oceanfront mansion in Palm Beach, formerly owned by nursing home magnate Abe Gosman.
It was auctioned off in bankruptcy court, and both Trump and Epstein were vying for it.
The Bidding War
Trump ultimately outbid Epstein, winning the property with a $41.35 million offer.
According to the property’s trustee, both men tried to undermine each other’s credibility during negotiations:
Trump reportedly said Epstein “doesn’t have the money.”
Epstein allegedly countered that Trump was “all talk”.
Aftermath and Fallout
Trump later sold the mansion to Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, nearly doubling his investment.
The incident reportedly soured their relationship, with Trump allegedly calling Epstein to curse him out over the ordeal.
Again, the timeline is CLEAR.
Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" and "likes them on the young side" BEFORE the real estate blowup, and AFTER he KNEW that Epstein was recruiting teenaged girls right from Mar-A-Lago.
That was the story. But Trump came out yesterday and claimed he and Epstein fell out due to Epstein poaching MAL employees. It's on tape. Most attorneys and investigators know that the truth does not change, so one of the stories is a lie.
Yet the timeline quite clearly shows that Epstein was still at Mar-A-Lago and still being touted as a "terrific guy" by Trump for years after the "poaching" incident with Virginia Giuffre (and there were likely others). Maybe Trump was annoyed later on that Epstein cleaned out the younger and prettier ones, but the mere fact of Epstein poaching girls was never the core issue of their falling-out and the timeline reflects that.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 07:07
Subject: Re:Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
That wasn't even what the 2007 falling-out was over. The real story is that Epstein poached a piece of real estate out from under Trump that Trump wanted to buy.
Myth.
NOT EVEN REMOTELY a "myth"
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-and-epstein-friendship-timeline
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/white-house-insists-trump-fell-out-with-epstein-for-being-a-creep-not-their-2019-real-estate-dispute/ar-AA1IX8CK
the falling out between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein stemmed from a 2004 real estate bidding war over a lavish Palm Beach mansion—not from moral outrage or personal misconduct, as later claimed by Trump’s team.
Here’s the breakdown:
The Property
The estate was a 6-acre oceanfront mansion in Palm Beach, formerly owned by nursing home magnate Abe Gosman.
It was auctioned off in bankruptcy court, and both Trump and Epstein were vying for it.
The Bidding War
Trump ultimately outbid Epstein, winning the property with a $41.35 million offer.
According to the property’s trustee, both men tried to undermine each other’s credibility during negotiations:
Trump reportedly said Epstein “doesn’t have the money.”
Epstein allegedly countered that Trump was “all talk”.
Aftermath and Fallout
Trump later sold the mansion to Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, nearly doubling his investment.
The incident reportedly soured their relationship, with Trump allegedly calling Epstein to curse him out over the ordeal.
Again, the timeline is CLEAR.
Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" and "likes them on the young side" BEFORE the real estate blowup, and AFTER he KNEW that Epstein was recruiting teenaged girls right from Mar-A-Lago.
That was the story. But Trump came out yesterday and claimed he and Epstein fell out due to Epstein poaching MAL employees. It's on tape. Most attorneys and investigators know that the truth does not change, so one of the stories is a lie.
He's having trouble keeping his lies straight.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 03:31
Subject: Re:Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
That wasn't even what the 2007 falling-out was over. The real story is that Epstein poached a piece of real estate out from under Trump that Trump wanted to buy.
Myth.
NOT EVEN REMOTELY a "myth"
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-and-epstein-friendship-timeline
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/white-house-insists-trump-fell-out-with-epstein-for-being-a-creep-not-their-2019-real-estate-dispute/ar-AA1IX8CK
the falling out between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein stemmed from a 2004 real estate bidding war over a lavish Palm Beach mansion—not from moral outrage or personal misconduct, as later claimed by Trump’s team.
Here’s the breakdown:
The Property
The estate was a 6-acre oceanfront mansion in Palm Beach, formerly owned by nursing home magnate Abe Gosman.
It was auctioned off in bankruptcy court, and both Trump and Epstein were vying for it.
The Bidding War
Trump ultimately outbid Epstein, winning the property with a $41.35 million offer.
According to the property’s trustee, both men tried to undermine each other’s credibility during negotiations:
Trump reportedly said Epstein “doesn’t have the money.”
Epstein allegedly countered that Trump was “all talk”.
Aftermath and Fallout
Trump later sold the mansion to Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, nearly doubling his investment.
The incident reportedly soured their relationship, with Trump allegedly calling Epstein to curse him out over the ordeal.
Again, the timeline is CLEAR.
Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" and "likes them on the young side" BEFORE the real estate blowup, and AFTER he KNEW that Epstein was recruiting teenaged girls right from Mar-A-Lago.
That was the story. But Trump came out yesterday and claimed he and Epstein fell out due to Epstein poaching MAL employees. It's on tape. Most attorneys and investigators know that the truth does not change, so one of the stories is a lie.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 03:27
Subject: Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump is planning to pardon the sex predator who "STOLE" a 17-year old girl from Mar-a-Lago's spa to be offered up to powerful people, including [allegedly] Prince Andrew.
Because it’s totally normal to hire a teenager to work at a spa and offer massages to older men…. Snark
Bingo! Why isn’t that the focus of the story? Isn’t it illegal to hire a 17 year old masseuse? Or maybe that’s the k in Florida.
Does Florida not license massage therapists? Or was Trump hiring them illegally too? Because in DC, VA, and MD, it’s heavily regulated including education, exams, fingerprints, and licenses.
IIRC from an interview with Virginia G. she said she was a "towel girl" at MAL. Gislaine hired her to give Epstein massages, and they later sent her to massage school somewhere offshore. I do think masseurs are required to be licensed but that wasn't her job at MAL. Maxwell exploited cute girls from poor or broken or inattentive homes. The girls wanted the chance to earn easy money, travel, and brush elbows with rich and famous people. They somehow got passports for many of the girls and withheld them until the girls complied. The reality of being in another country without money or a passport must have been terrifying for many of them. Many of the girls didn't travel and just serviced Epstein at his Palm Beach home. Some of the girls recruited new girls from their high schools or from shopping malls. Epstein had sex many times a day in Palm Beach. This was from the early indictment through Alex Acosta's office.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 00:12
Subject: Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Today I feel like the Epstein Files and Trump Dementia threads have merged. He can't keep track of anything he's claimed about the past can't fake normal human moral behavior by saying the appropriate things. It's like he doesn't even recognize how crazy and damaging his own statements are.
Either does all republicans.
Anonymous
07/29/2025 23:58
Subject: Epstein Files
Today I feel like the Epstein Files and Trump Dementia threads have merged. He can't keep track of anything he's claimed about the past can't fake normal human moral behavior by saying the appropriate things. It's like he doesn't even recognize how crazy and damaging his own statements are.
Anonymous
07/29/2025 23:51
Subject: Epstein Files
What the heck. He is on video saying this about a teenage girl. How Epstein “stole her” from his resort.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-epstein-stole-virginia-giuffre-young-women-mar/story?id=124184340
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-epstein-stole-virginia-giuffre-young-women-mar/story?id=124184340
Anonymous
07/29/2025 21:51
Subject: Re:Epstein Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
That wasn't even what the 2007 falling-out was over. The real story is that Epstein poached a piece of real estate out from under Trump that Trump wanted to buy.
Epstein was never actually an official member at Mar-A-Lago. He was there throughout the 1990s and early 2000s because he was best friends with Trump. He never paid the initiation fee or member dues, so there was no official "kicking out."