Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 16:18     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

That guy has already changed his appearance and is long gone, which is why the dad looks so happy. They will probably find him in a few years when he becomes less careful.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 16:17     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can see how suffocation might be argued as accidental, but not strangulation. Assuming strangulation requires force and choking to the neck area. Possibly with a rope.


Strangulation isn’t as easy as one would think. DH is a cop and says it takes a lot of strength and time. 2-3 minutes of intense pressure to lose consciousness and 4-7 minutes till brain death.

I don’t know if BL planned it, maybe he snapped but there’s an intent to kill when strangling.

Yes. This probably sounds morbid of me, but from a prosecution perspective it's probably a good thing she was strangled rather than suffocated - you can't accidentally strangle someone.


1st degree murder charges.

With the video of the van at the burial site by the passerby and the confirmation of Gabby's death by strangulation from the coroner, they would have copious evidence to charge and pursue Brian with a murder warrant.


If they ever find him.

He’s long dead or long gone. I hope they charge his enabling parents with something.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 16:08     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can see how suffocation might be argued as accidental, but not strangulation. Assuming strangulation requires force and choking to the neck area. Possibly with a rope.


Strangulation isn’t as easy as one would think. DH is a cop and says it takes a lot of strength and time. 2-3 minutes of intense pressure to lose consciousness and 4-7 minutes till brain death.

I don’t know if BL planned it, maybe he snapped but there’s an intent to kill when strangling.

Yes. This probably sounds morbid of me, but from a prosecution perspective it's probably a good thing she was strangled rather than suffocated - you can't accidentally strangle someone.


1st degree murder charges.

With the video of the van at the burial site by the passerby and the confirmation of Gabby's death by strangulation from the coroner, they would have copious evidence to charge and pursue Brian with a murder warrant.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 15:53     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can see how suffocation might be argued as accidental, but not strangulation. Assuming strangulation requires force and choking to the neck area. Possibly with a rope.


Strangulation isn’t as easy as one would think. DH is a cop and says it takes a lot of strength and time. 2-3 minutes of intense pressure to lose consciousness and 4-7 minutes till brain death.

I don’t know if BL planned it, maybe he snapped but there’s an intent to kill when strangling.

Yes. This probably sounds morbid of me, but from a prosecution perspective it's probably a good thing she was strangled rather than suffocated - you can't accidentally strangle someone.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 15:23     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:I can see how suffocation might be argued as accidental, but not strangulation. Assuming strangulation requires force and choking to the neck area. Possibly with a rope.


Strangulation isn’t as easy as one would think. DH is a cop and says it takes a lot of strength and time. 2-3 minutes of intense pressure to lose consciousness and 4-7 minutes till brain death.

I don’t know if BL planned it, maybe he snapped but there’s an intent to kill when strangling.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 15:10     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

She was not pregnant according to coroner.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 15:10     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

I can see how suffocation might be argued as accidental, but not strangulation. Assuming strangulation requires force and choking to the neck area. Possibly with a rope.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 15:06     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Death by strangulation coroner just said


I guessed this would be the case (and said so many pages back). I think Brian told his parents that he put his hands on her, but didn't mean to actually kill her, that it was an accident.


So heartbreaking thinking of her last moments. That poor girl.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 14:56     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:I think the coroner is saying her body was outside in the elements for 3-4 weeks. Is that right?


Yes, they used a forensic entomologist to help narrow down the time of death.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 14:44     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

I think the coroner is saying her body was outside in the elements for 3-4 weeks. Is that right?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 14:37     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:Death by strangulation coroner just said


I guessed this would be the case (and said so many pages back). I think Brian told his parents that he put his hands on her, but didn't mean to actually kill her, that it was an accident.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 14:36     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Hard to say that was accidental
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 14:34     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Death by strangulation coroner just said
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 11:12     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:The lawyer in the background orchestrating responses for Laundrie family - why isn't he leaning on the parents to cooperate with LE? It's the decent thing to do in this case.


Obtaining this lawyer was the reason he never gave a statement to the police. Legal advice..
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2021 10:24     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lawyer in the background orchestrating responses for Laundrie family - why isn't he leaning on the parents to cooperate with LE? It's the decent thing to do in this case.


Agree. The lawyer needs to go to the police, tell them everything he knows and turn over the parents.


Lol…that’s not how lawyers work.