Anonymous
05/08/2015 12:00
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:Sandra Jenoure
Early Childhood Math Instructional Specialist
Department of Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics
Office of Curriculum, Standards and Academic Engagement
New York City Department of Education
Where does it say she is a teacher? Looks like a curriculum specialist to me.
Putting a curriculum specialist on a workgroup related to standards development -- how absurd!
No, wait...
Anonymous
05/08/2015 11:59
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Ah yes, I forgot that the only thing that counts is whether they are a current, full-time classroom teacher in a public school.
In which case we can disregard the statements and opinions linked above from Randi Weingarten and Nancy Carlsson-Paige, right?
In which case we can disregard the statements and opinions linked above from Randi Weingarten and Nancy Carlsson-Paige, right?
Anonymous
05/08/2015 11:57
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Everything I find in her bio says she was a Science specialist for many, many years. Her Masters is in Environmental Science. She sounds like a great person--but she was not an Early Childhood classroom teacher--except for a year in first grade--her first year of teaching.
So, she wasn't an Early Childhood teacher and she was a science specialist.
Why was she on the math committee?
So, she wasn't an Early Childhood teacher and she was a science specialist.
Why was she on the math committee?
Anonymous
05/08/2015 11:30
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Sandra Jenoure
Early Childhood Math Instructional Specialist
Department of Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics
Office of Curriculum, Standards and Academic Engagement
New York City Department of Education
Where does it say she is a teacher? Looks like a curriculum specialist to me.
Anonymous
05/08/2015 11:27
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Are you saying that some or all of this is factually incorrect? If so, which parts, and how do you know?
I am saying that she is not a classroom teacher. That statement also does not say that she is.
Anonymous
05/08/2015 11:22
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
What's your modus operandi -- assuming that everything on the Common Core website is a lie unless you can find independent outside verification?
Where does it say that she is teaching. You believe everything on that site?
Why weren't there any Early Childhood teachers on the committee?
You have never answered that question--nor have you told the rest of us what your background is. You question everyone else's opinion--but give yours freely.
You're responding to multiple posters.
According to the National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers, this is Sandra Jenoure:
Sandra Jenoure
Early Childhood Math Instructional Specialist
Department of Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics
Office of Curriculum, Standards and Academic Engagement
New York City Department of Education
and she was on the Mathematics Feedback Group of the K-12 Standards Development Team.
http://regents.louisiana.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/State-Educators-Involvement-in-Development-of-CCSS.pdf
Are you saying that some or all of this is factually incorrect? If so, which parts, and how do you know?
Anonymous
05/08/2015 11:14
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
What's your modus operandi -- assuming that everything on the Common Core website is a lie unless you can find independent outside verification?
Where does it say that she is teaching. You believe everything on that site?
Why weren't there any Early Childhood teachers on the committee?
You have never answered that question--nor have you told the rest of us what your background is. You question everyone else's opinion--but give yours freely.
Anonymous
05/08/2015 11:10
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
And, once more, you rely on your Common Core Standards website for all of your information.
I can find little on her, except that she has worked at Hunter College and conducts Science and Environmental workshops. Maybe, she has been an Early Childhood teacher, maybe not. We do not know, do we?
So, why do you think she is an "expert"? Because of a title?
And, even so--there are none listed on the ELA standards. NO early childhood people at all--much less teachers- on ELA. And, ONE that appears to be questionable on Math.
But, hey, according to you, those experts that teach in college know it all!
What's your modus operandi -- assuming that everything on the Common Core website is a lie unless you can find independent outside verification?
Anonymous
05/08/2015 11:05
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Sandra Jenoure
Early Childhood Math Instructional Specialist
Department of Science, Technology,
Engineering and Mathematics
Office of Curriculum, Standards and Academic
Engagement
New York City Department of Education
I guess since she's not working with fingerpaint everyday that proves your point, whatever it is.
And, once more, you rely on your Common Core Standards website for all of your information.
I can find little on her, except that she has worked at Hunter College and conducts Science and Environmental workshops. Maybe, she has been an Early Childhood teacher, maybe not. We do not know, do we?
So, why do you think she is an "expert"? Because of a title?
And, even so--there are none listed on the ELA standards. NO early childhood people at all--much less teachers- on ELA. And, ONE that appears to be questionable on Math.
But, hey, according to you, those experts that teach in college know it all!
Anonymous
05/08/2015 10:00
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/15/05/06/op-ed-...ake-the-parcc-exams-seriously/
Good op-ed. He brings up a point I had not considered: lack of skin in the game on the part of students.
This is an excellent article and a big part of why these tests cannot survive. Unless the tests have meaning for the student, there is not going to be buy in.
Anonymous
05/08/2015 09:50
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/05/02/6-reasons-to-reject-common-core-k-3-standards-and-6-axioms-to-guide-policy/
Here you go.
If you cannot see that there is a serious problem with the K standards, I cannot help you.
Are you a troll?
Here's the short version of this article: "I am a teacher; please don't hold me accountable for anything." And I preface that by saying I don't believe in "high stakes" testing. But the authors of that piece basically want to eliminate any method for measuring student progress. When they show up in fourth grade and can't read the cover of a book, I guess they'll say, "Oops".
Anonymous
05/08/2015 09:34
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
Going by the titles listed in this document there seems to be at least one ECE teacher http://www.nga.org/files/live/sites/NGA/files/pdf/2010COMMONCOREK12TEAM.PDF
Not a teacher. No Early Childhood teachers on the list.
Fail.
Just shows how much they understand what goes on with young children.
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Sandra Jenoure
Early Childhood Math Instructional Specialist
Department of Science, Technology,
Engineering and Mathematics
Office of Curriculum, Standards and Academic
Engagement
New York City Department of Education
I guess since she's not working with fingerpaint everyday that proves your point, whatever it is.
Anonymous
05/07/2015 21:38
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/15/05/06/op-ed-here-s-why-our-students-won-t-take-the-parcc-exams-seriously/
Good op-ed. He brings up a point I had not considered: lack of skin in the game on the part of students.
Good op-ed. He brings up a point I had not considered: lack of skin in the game on the part of students.
Anonymous
05/07/2015 21:20
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
I'm not either poster from above. But after reading all of this about kindergarten and early grades and reading instruction, I am inclined to believe that the standards are not very important at all. It is the students who should be guiding the instruction at those ages, not the standards. There honestly probably should not be any standards until at least grade 4. Everything before that should be more flexible and ungraded and should be steps toward a grade 4 (or so) level. Any standardized testing based on standards at these ages is probably going to be too narrow and restrictive to be useful for an individual student.
Anonymous
05/07/2015 21:03
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/05/02/6-reasons-to-reject-common-core-k-3-standards-and-6-axioms-to-guide-policy/
Here you go.
If you cannot see that there is a serious problem with the K standards, I cannot help you.
Are you a troll?
There is nothing whatsoever in your link about Direct Instruction.
Also, the High/Scope Perry Preschool Project and the High/Scope Preschool Curriculum Comparison Study are two different studies.