Anonymous
02/02/2025 06:56
Subject: Re:Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The WH social aide gig is a prestigious thing. The ones I know went on to become a US Senator and a CEO.
Funny how the posters with pitchforks seem quiet now that she’s been named.
The PR angle of listing her prizes and awards and accolades was smart. They made the story instead of letting Trump make the story.
Interesting. Why does she need crisis PR? Do the two male victims in the helicopter have crisis PR? Why were their names everywhere and only hers was shielded for 3 days?
Accuracy would be nice, PP. Her name was released one day later.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 06:45
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
There is no indication of either of those.
Why are you jumping to conclusions without any evidence?
We don't know who in the helo was responsible, but we do know they acted recklessly.
We don't know anything until the investigation is over.
We know they ignored the commands from ATC.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 06:38
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
There is no indication of either of those.
Why are you jumping to conclusions without any evidence?
We don't know who in the helo was responsible, but we do know they acted recklessly.
We don't know anything until the investigation is over.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 06:31
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
There is no indication of either of those.
A helicopter with a maximum permissible fleight ceiling of 200ft crashing into a passenger jet at about 325 feet is no indication of gross incompetence? What's it indication of, that they've fully integrated an understanding of how their unconscious white privilege is problematic? What the radar data, assuming it is accurate, indicates is the helicopter approached on a direct collision course with the jet steady at just over 300 feet. Curiously, in the fatal final seconds it suddenly dropped to 200 feet then suddenly rose to 325 and turned left into the jet which was likewise finalising its left turn to landing. The dip just before and rise in altitude into the crash is very weird. Innocent explanation is that's bad radar data. Not innocent explanation is a fight for controls inside the helicopter between soldiers. The best case scenario here is gross incompetence by the helicopter soldiers. But I backtrack blaming the woman pilot. Could have been the male pilot talking to the tower. Especially if it was deliberate, and particularly if there was a last minute struggle, I'd expect a male to more likely do something like this and more likely to be able to win a struggle over a female pilot than vice-versa.
Why are you jumping to conclusions without any evidence?
Anonymous
02/02/2025 06:21
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
There is no indication of either of those.
Why are you jumping to conclusions without any evidence?
We don't know who in the helo was responsible, but we do know they acted recklessly.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 06:18
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
There is no indication of either of those.
Why are you jumping to conclusions without any evidence?
Anonymous
02/02/2025 06:06
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
The entity guilty of a gross and deliberate act is the FAA which ignored the numerous previous incidents because no one died yet.
+1. And the military who also knew about the previous incidents.
It goes without saying US regulators of private industry are inadequate - the model has been complete corporate capture with for profit motive to nearly the point of collapse - eg. FAA & Boeing's degenerated and abominable consumation. The person who appeared to fly a helicopter straight towards and in the last moments turn the helicopter left and into the commercial jet might also deserve a postive and respectful talking to, 'Good job Karen, you're just as good as your mommy, papa, pastor, school teacher, guidance counselor and sports coach said you were, but no more driving straight at commercial airlines for 30 seconds and then turning into them during the last seconds'...oh wait, that will be hard to do now.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 05:46
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
The entity guilty of a gross and deliberate act is the FAA which ignored the numerous previous incidents because no one died yet.
+1. And the military who also knew about the previous incidents.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 05:40
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
The entity guilty of a gross and deliberate act is the FAA which ignored the numerous previous incidents because no one died yet.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 05:37
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a BH can ascend a hundred feet or so in a few seconds? I am wondering if she maybe had a medical emergency and pressed on the up pedal and other pilot could not correct in time. Is that possible?
Up is controlled by the collective in the left hand.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 04:14
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Because their wife and only child died because of either her deliberate act or gross incompetence?
Anonymous
02/02/2025 04:11
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Why would anyone hate her? There is no indication that this was intentional.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 04:11
Subject: Re:Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The WH social aide gig is a prestigious thing. The ones I know went on to become a US Senator and a CEO.
Funny how the posters with pitchforks seem quiet now that she’s been named.
The PR angle of listing her prizes and awards and accolades was smart. They made the story instead of letting Trump make the story.
People cooled down because it appeared to be a middle class white woman and the fish they were hoping to catch was a transwoman given the anti-trans political shift. I totally disagree that hailing how wonderful someone who piloted a helicopter into 64 civilians on a plane was a stroke of PR genius. A stroke of trying the old tricks that had been proven to have failed miserably and for good couple months ago more likely. Just say nothing, yes there's a gullible public, and you can spin a lot, but not someone who piloted a helicopter into 64 civilians into a hero. Any commendation of her just will make people hate her more.
+1
Anonymous
02/02/2025 03:57
Subject: Re:Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The WH social aide gig is a prestigious thing. The ones I know went on to become a US Senator and a CEO.
Funny how the posters with pitchforks seem quiet now that she’s been named.
The PR angle of listing her prizes and awards and accolades was smart. They made the story instead of letting Trump make the story.
People cooled down because it appeared to be a middle class white woman and the fish they were hoping to catch was a transwoman given the anti-trans political shift. I totally disagree that hailing how wonderful someone who piloted a helicopter into 64 civilians on a plane was a stroke of PR genius. A stroke of trying the old tricks that had been proven to have failed miserably and for good couple months ago more likely. Just say nothing, yes there's a gullible public, and you can spin a lot, but not someone who piloted a helicopter into 64 civilians into a hero. Any commendation of her just will make people hate her more.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 03:45
Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Trump's DEI comments and blaming the ATC for apparently being intellectually or psychiatrically disabled and causing the crash are so unprofessional and unsupported that it is hard to understand.
I understand people voting in different ways, having different viewpoints, and prioritizing different things but I don't understand anyone supporting or accepting the outlandish things he says.
This was a tragic event and instead of caring about the people involved, he saw it as an opportunity to level unfounded and defamatory accusations and blame at individuals he didn't even know.
Can the ATC or the FAA respond to this either through legal channels or other means? What are the options to support this ATC who has been treated so terribly on a national stage?
I understand people voting in different ways, having different viewpoints, and prioritizing different things but I don't understand anyone supporting or accepting the outlandish things he says.
This was a tragic event and instead of caring about the people involved, he saw it as an opportunity to level unfounded and defamatory accusations and blame at individuals he didn't even know.
Can the ATC or the FAA respond to this either through legal channels or other means? What are the options to support this ATC who has been treated so terribly on a national stage?