Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More evidence suggesting that Iran did not shoot down the Apache. The Pentagon claims the AH-64 was shot down by an Iranian Shahed drone

That's impossible.

A Shahed is ground to ground. Not ground to air. It's very slow- an Apache could easily outmaneuver it.

It flies to GPS coordinates- not optically guided.

Who would benefit from shooting down the Apache??

Someone who wants escalation between Iran and the US and not detente. Someone with a history of targeting Us military targets before. Someone who doesn’t fear the US and knows there will be no retribution even if they were caught

Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing the mental gymnastics Republicans are doing to convince themselves that this war is turning out in our favor.

Did this war bring about regime change in Iran? No.

Did the Iranian people rise up, free themselves of the shackles of oppression, and take back their government? No.

Did this war ensure that Iran never acquires nuclear weapons? No.

Did this war destroy Iran’s missile and drone programs? No.

Did this war sever Iran’s support of militant proxies in the region No.

Did this war secure additional regional support for normalized relations with Israel? No.

Is Israel more safe and secure than it was six months ago? No.

In addition to the COST (measured in tens of billions, if not more, and worse - loss of American lives) and the abject failures listed above, we have also brought about two devastating developments:

1. Our relationships with strategic partners in the Gulf region have been degraded to the point where our ongoing presence in the region is at the most uncertain level it’s been in several decades … the illusion they had that a U.S. presence in their midst would protect them from the risk of Iranian hostilities has been completely shattered.

And as far as I’m concerned, this next point is the scariest development …

2. The Iranian regime no longer fears us - they haven’t hesitated AT ALL to stand toe-to-toe (with a military budget that’s probably less than 5% of ours) and punch back the past few weeks. That fact should horrify all Americans. They no longer believe we’re invincible, that the only recourse they have when we attack them (or enable Israel to attack them) is to send a half-hearted missile fusillade into an empty field in one of our regional Gulf allies, but only after diplomatically letting us know beforehand to ensure no harm is caused.

They now know that they can fight back. That THAT is an option. And that we will back off.

What a disaster. This is yet another sign of an empire in grave decline. And I wish I could just blame Republicans and the MAGA movement, but the truth is that this acceleration in the collapse of American has been brought to us via the Zionist corruption of our government.

Choosing between one party that’s 94% unacceptable (personification: Lindsey Graham) and the other party that’s 81% unacceptable (personification: John Fetterman) is the kind of nightmare choice I never thought I’d have to make …

Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing the mental gymnastics Republicans are doing to convince themselves that this war is turning out in our favor.

Did this war bring about regime change in Iran? No.

Did the Iranian people rise up, free themselves of the shackles of oppression, and take back their government? No.

Did this war ensure that Iran never acquires nuclear weapons? No.

Did this war destroy Iran’s missile and drone programs? No.

Did this war sever Iran’s support of militant proxies in the region No.

Did this war secure additional regional support for normalized relations with Israel? No.

Is Israel more safe and secure than it was six months ago? No.

In addition to the COST (measured in tens of billions, if not more, and worse - loss of American lives) and the abject failures listed above, we have also brought about two devastating developments:

1. Our relationships with strategic partners in the Gulf region have been degraded to the point where our ongoing presence in the region is at the most uncertain level it’s been in several decades … the illusion they had that a U.S. presence in their midst would protect them from the risk of Iranian hostilities has been completely shattered.

And as far as I’m concerned, this next point is the scariest development …

2. The Iranian regime no longer fears us - they haven’t hesitated AT ALL to stand toe-to-toe (with a military budget that’s probably less than 5% of ours) and punch back the past few weeks. That fact should horrify all Americans. They no longer believe we’re invincible, that the only recourse they have when we attack them (or enable Israel to attack them) is to send a half-hearted missile fusillade into an empty field in one of our regional Gulf allies, but only after diplomatically letting us know beforehand to ensure no harm is caused.

They now know that they can fight back. That THAT is an option. And that we will back off.

What a disaster. This is yet another sign of an empire in grave decline. And I wish I could just blame Republicans and the MAGA movement, but the truth is that this acceleration in the collapse of American has been brought to us via the Zionist corruption of our government.

Choosing between one party that’s 94% unacceptable (personification: Lindsey Graham) and the other party that’s 81% unacceptable (personification: John Fetterman) is the kind of nightmare choice I never thought I’d have to make …

Anonymous wrote:So Trump told Bibi to not strike Iran because he controls what happens. Trump will make the deal and the Israelis have no choice in the matter. Now the US is attacking Iran from Israel and the US has no say in the matter?

Wow Trump and the maga are on our knees saying yes sir to the Israelis.

Where are the American first people? What the hell is wrong with the Republicans and Trump?

Anonymous wrote:More evidence suggesting that Iran did not shoot down the Apache. The Pentagon claims the AH-64 was shot down by an Iranian Shahed drone

That's impossible.

A Shahed is ground to ground. Not ground to air. It's very slow- an Apache could easily outmaneuver it.

It flies to GPS coordinates- not optically guided.

Who would benefit from shooting down the Apache??

Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing the mental gymnastics Republicans are doing to convince themselves that this war is turning out in our favor.

Did this war bring about regime change in Iran? No.

Did the Iranian people rise up, free themselves of the shackles of oppression, and take back their government? No.

Did this war ensure that Iran never acquires nuclear weapons? No.

Did this war destroy Iran’s missile and drone programs? No.

Did this war sever Iran’s support of militant proxies in the region No.

Did this war secure additional regional support for normalized relations with Israel? No.

Is Israel more safe and secure than it was six months ago? No.

In addition to the COST (measured in tens of billions, if not more, and worse - loss of American lives) and the abject failures listed above, we have also brought about two devastating developments:

1. Our relationships with strategic partners in the Gulf region have been degraded to the point where our ongoing presence in the region is at the most uncertain level it’s been in several decades … the illusion they had that a U.S. presence in their midst would protect them from the risk of Iranian hostilities has been completely shattered.

And as far as I’m concerned, this next point is the scariest development …

2. The Iranian regime no longer fears us - they haven’t hesitated AT ALL to stand toe-to-toe (with a military budget that’s probably less than 5% of ours) and punch back the past few weeks. That fact should horrify all Americans. They no longer believe we’re invincible, that the only recourse they have when we attack them (or enable Israel to attack them) is to send a half-hearted missile fusillade into an empty field in one of our regional Gulf allies, but only after diplomatically letting us know beforehand to ensure no harm is caused.

They now know that they can fight back. That THAT is an option. And that we will back off.

What a disaster. This is yet another sign of an empire in grave decline. And I wish I could just blame Republicans and the MAGA movement, but the truth is that this acceleration in the collapse of American has been brought to us via the Zionist corruption of our government.

Choosing between one party that’s 94% unacceptable (personification: Lindsey Graham) and the other party that’s 81% unacceptable (personification: John Fetterman) is the kind of nightmare choice I never thought I’d have to make …

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More evidence suggesting that Iran did not shoot down the Apache. The Pentagon claims the AH-64 was shot down by an Iranian Shahed drone

That's impossible.

A Shahed is ground to ground. Not ground to air. It's very slow- an Apache could easily outmaneuver it.

It flies to GPS coordinates- not optically guided.

Who would benefit from shooting down the Apache??

I know nothing about this equipment but is it at all possible the missle was aimed at a ground target and the Apache accidentally got on the way? Considering a military helicopter got in the way of a commercial airliner not that long ago, it seems possible?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More evidence suggesting that Iran did not shoot down the Apache. The Pentagon claims the AH-64 was shot down by an Iranian Shahed drone

That's impossible.

A Shahed is ground to ground. Not ground to air. It's very slow- an Apache could easily outmaneuver it.

It flies to GPS coordinates- not optically guided.

Who would benefit from shooting down the Apache??

I know nothing about this equipment but is it at all possible the missle was aimed at a ground target and the Apache accidentally got on the way? Considering a military helicopter got in the way of a commercial airliner not that long ago, it seems possible?

Anonymous wrote:More evidence suggesting that Iran did not shoot down the Apache. The Pentagon claims the AH-64 was shot down by an Iranian Shahed drone

That's impossible.

A Shahed is ground to ground. Not ground to air. It's very slow- an Apache could easily outmaneuver it.

It flies to GPS coordinates- not optically guided.

Who would benefit from shooting down the Apache??

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have TACO!

“Iran has not yet agreed to any document or memorandum of understanding with the United States, Iran’s Fars news agency reports.

This appears to contradict Donald Trump’s statement that “final points have been, in both concept and great detail, approved by all parties involved”.

Liar liar pants on fire

Anonymous wrote:

On point: Iran is evil.

Anonymous wrote:NP

To the imbeciles trying so desperately to convince this community that there’s only one poster who finds Israel and its supporters to be repugnant on every level: Stop. Just stop.