Anonymous wrote:it was either midwest or liverpool getting the boot. Midwest top to bottom had lower performance than liverpool. Ask yourself this, if a club was all about moving to the GA then why on the morning of their big announcement would their website still be advertising March 1st tryouts for next year's ECNL Team. Also, Midwest is just a farm club for the Hawks. yes, it's true, multiple families across the age groups carpool 4 days a week 4 hour round trips. That's their status in the region. They are better off in the tier 2 & tier 3 environment that the GA offers but there's no question about it, they wanted to stay in the ECNL.

First off, not fully updating a website the day of an announcement isn't a strong argument. Plenty of clubs don't update much until after any big change, like switching leagues. They HAVE to have tryouts and they aren't going to change until THE change.

On Midwest vs. Liverpool, that's super interesting since Liverpool is in metro Detroit, along with the Nationals and Hawks (including a 2nd team that Midwest definitely outperformed on the whole), WHILE Midwest is one of the top, if not the top, in West MI and part of the USL system. Seems not smart by ECNL to abandon such a strong soccer market, TBH.

And yes, I've heard how the Hawks have gotten players from there like you describe. But that's not ideal for those families or players and relies on the Hawks well-earned reputation, although recent raft of ongoing coaching changes haven't been a great look and suggest organizationally a lot of problems going on that get papered over thanks to their great recruiting. But then again, what soccer club doesn't have these issues?

So, in the end, it seems more political to me, especially evident when the clubs recently played and the Hawks reported a win when in fact they lost on Insta (post was later deleted after they got called out on it).

ECNL would do better to have a more defined method of promotion/relegation that's reflected to results on the pitch.

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Anonymous wrote:it was either midwest or liverpool getting the boot. Midwest top to bottom had lower performance than liverpool. Ask yourself this, if a club was all about moving to the GA then why on the morning of their big announcement would their website still be advertising March 1st tryouts for next year's ECNL Team. Also, Midwest is just a farm club for the Hawks. yes, it's true, multiple families across the age groups carpool 4 days a week 4 hour round trips. That's their status in the region. They are better off in the tier 2 & tier 3 environment that the GA offers but there's no question about it, they wanted to stay in the ECNL.

You're reading way too much into when a club updates their site.

ECNL had 3 options to make the league work...
1. Boot a club
2. Force 2 clubs to merge
3. Add a club (bring up an ECRL club)

Your fan fiction about leagues only wanting the purest form of completion isn't how the real world works. In the real world you need to make money #1 loses money, #2 keeps things the same, #3 brings in more money.

No the OP, but the whole scuttlebutt rings more true than your generic response (as someone who knows all the clubs involved).

Ok ECNL is now booting clubs.

Although they rarely did this before.

Totally makes sense.

And it happens to be the ones with MLSnext on the boys side lol. These ecnl hats are delusional. Cant tell me they are not a cult.

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Anonymous wrote:it was either midwest or liverpool getting the boot. Midwest top to bottom had lower performance than liverpool. Ask yourself this, if a club was all about moving to the GA then why on the morning of their big announcement would their website still be advertising March 1st tryouts for next year's ECNL Team. Also, Midwest is just a farm club for the Hawks. yes, it's true, multiple families across the age groups carpool 4 days a week 4 hour round trips. That's their status in the region. They are better off in the tier 2 & tier 3 environment that the GA offers but there's no question about it, they wanted to stay in the ECNL.

You're reading way too much into when a club updates their site.

ECNL had 3 options to make the league work...
1. Boot a club
2. Force 2 clubs to merge
3. Add a club (bring up an ECRL club)

Your fan fiction about leagues only wanting the purest form of completion isn't how the real world works. In the real world you need to make money #1 loses money, #2 keeps things the same, #3 brings in more money.

No the OP, but the whole scuttlebutt rings more true than your generic response (as someone who knows all the clubs involved).

Ok ECNL is now booting clubs.

Although they rarely did this before.

Totally makes sense.

midwest got the boot. that's a fact.

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Anonymous wrote:it was either midwest or liverpool getting the boot. Midwest top to bottom had lower performance than liverpool. Ask yourself this, if a club was all about moving to the GA then why on the morning of their big announcement would their website still be advertising March 1st tryouts for next year's ECNL Team. Also, Midwest is just a farm club for the Hawks. yes, it's true, multiple families across the age groups carpool 4 days a week 4 hour round trips. That's their status in the region. They are better off in the tier 2 & tier 3 environment that the GA offers but there's no question about it, they wanted to stay in the ECNL.

You're reading way too much into when a club updates their site.

ECNL had 3 options to make the league work...
1. Boot a club
2. Force 2 clubs to merge
3. Add a club (bring up an ECRL club)

Your fan fiction about leagues only wanting the purest form of completion isn't how the real world works. In the real world you need to make money #1 loses money, #2 keeps things the same, #3 brings in more money.

No the OP, but the whole scuttlebutt rings more true than your generic response (as someone who knows all the clubs involved).

Anonymous wrote:it was either midwest or liverpool getting the boot. Midwest top to bottom had lower performance than liverpool. Ask yourself this, if a club was all about moving to the GA then why on the morning of their big announcement would their website still be advertising March 1st tryouts for next year's ECNL Team. Also, Midwest is just a farm club for the Hawks. yes, it's true, multiple families across the age groups carpool 4 days a week 4 hour round trips. That's their status in the region. They are better off in the tier 2 & tier 3 environment that the GA offers but there's no question about it, they wanted to stay in the ECNL.

You're reading way too much into when a club updates their site.

ECNL had 3 options to make the league work...
1. Boot a club
2. Force 2 clubs to merge
3. Add a club (bring up an ECRL club)

Your fan fiction about leagues only wanting the purest form of completion isn't how the real world works. In the real world you need to make money #1 loses money, #2 keeps things the same, #3 brings in more money.

it was either midwest or liverpool getting the boot. Midwest top to bottom had lower performance than liverpool. Ask yourself this, if a club was all about moving to the GA then why on the morning of their big announcement would their website still be advertising March 1st tryouts for next year's ECNL Team. Also, Midwest is just a farm club for the Hawks. yes, it's true, multiple families across the age groups carpool 4 days a week 4 hour round trips. That's their status in the region. They are better off in the tier 2 & tier 3 environment that the GA offers but there's no question about it, they wanted to stay in the ECNL.

I like the new ECNL parent narrative that the clubs switching to GA were somehow secretly kicked out of ECNL and that's why they joined GA.

This "logic" completely ignores all the mergers ECNL has forced clubs to go through when there's performance issues. Why would ECNL go through all the effort to force mergers with some clubs but secretly bout out other's?

I think I just bought a whiff of desperation in the air.

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Anonymous wrote:GA flipped another ECNL club today. Kings Hammer from Cincinnati.

GA did not flip Kings Hammer Girls ECNL teams. Kings Hammer girls were pushed/forced to move cause of their boys and MLSnext. it will happen a lot more in the next few years. Girls being pushed/forced to change. Really sad.

You know nothing about Kings Hammer decision process yet you assume the girls "were pushed". Fine whatever bury your head in the sand, make excuses it won't stop what's going on around you.

ECNL used to bully clubs into playing their boys in ECNL (not MLSN) if they wanted girls ECNL. ECNL would also take girls ECNL away from clubs if their boys joined MLSN.

Cry your crocodile tears nobody cares.

Follow the money.

Who has deeper pockets? ECNL or MLS/GA?

Tides are shifting!

Anonymous wrote:GA flipped another ECNL club today. Kings Hammer from Cincinnati.

GA did not flip Kings Hammer Girls ECNL teams. Kings Hammer girls were pushed/forced to move cause of their boys and MLSnext. it will happen a lot more in the next few years. Girls being pushed/forced to change. Really sad.

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Anonymous wrote:GA flipped another ECNL club today. Kings Hammer from Cincinnati.

Wake me up when they flip SD Surf. Those bottom ECNL clubs mean nothing to change the landscape. ECNL can easily find a similar replacement if it wants.

But I thought all ECNL clubs were the best of the best which was why they were in ECNL and never go to GA.....

2 clubs got kicked out of ECNL this year so where else they gonna go? if you don't know the whole story, put that pie back in the frig

LOL...you're clueless, spewing nonsense, what 2 clubs? Well I'm waiting....oh this and then that, you have no idea what's going on. Your either some chubby mom who would rather be eating a chicken salad sandwich or a Dad who never accomplished anything as a kid. So which one are you?

Midwest United & Tulsa got the boot.

Midwest joined GA as a result I think that Tulsa dropping to ECRL

People in MI are scratching their heads as to why Midwest left unless they just prefer GA and like the MLSN connection. Yeah they had some middling results but it wasn't the worst.

they were pushed out. not sure why parents can't believe this. its common knowledge. parents just can't accept it.

Yeah, but they being pushed out seems more political than based on performance.

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Anonymous wrote:GA flipped another ECNL club today. Kings Hammer from Cincinnati.

Wake me up when they flip SD Surf. Those bottom ECNL clubs mean nothing to change the landscape. ECNL can easily find a similar replacement if it wants.

But I thought all ECNL clubs were the best of the best which was why they were in ECNL and never go to GA.....

2 clubs got kicked out of ECNL this year so where else they gonna go? if you don't know the whole story, put that pie back in the frig

LOL...you're clueless, spewing nonsense, what 2 clubs? Well I'm waiting....oh this and then that, you have no idea what's going on. Your either some chubby mom who would rather be eating a chicken salad sandwich or a Dad who never accomplished anything as a kid. So which one are you?

Midwest United & Tulsa got the boot.

Midwest joined GA as a result I think that Tulsa dropping to ECRL

People in MI are scratching their heads as to why Midwest left unless they just prefer GA and like the MLSN connection. Yeah they had some middling results but it wasn't the worst.

they were pushed out. not sure why parents can't believe this. its common knowledge. parents just can't accept it.

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Anonymous wrote:GA flipped another ECNL club today. Kings Hammer from Cincinnati.

Wake me up when they flip SD Surf. Those bottom ECNL clubs mean nothing to change the landscape. ECNL can easily find a similar replacement if it wants.

But I thought all ECNL clubs were the best of the best which was why they were in ECNL and never go to GA.....

2 clubs got kicked out of ECNL this year so where else they gonna go? if you don't know the whole story, put that pie back in the frig

LOL...you're clueless, spewing nonsense, what 2 clubs? Well I'm waiting....oh this and then that, you have no idea what's going on. Your either some chubby mom who would rather be eating a chicken salad sandwich or a Dad who never accomplished anything as a kid. So which one are you?

Midwest United & Tulsa got the boot.

Midwest joined GA as a result I think that Tulsa dropping to ECRL

People in MI are scratching their heads as to why Midwest left unless they just prefer GA and like the MLSN connection. Yeah they had some middling results but it wasn't the worst.

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Anonymous wrote:GA flipped another ECNL club today. Kings Hammer from Cincinnati.

Wake me up when they flip SD Surf. Those bottom ECNL clubs mean nothing to change the landscape. ECNL can easily find a similar replacement if it wants.

But I thought all ECNL clubs were the best of the best which was why they were in ECNL and never go to GA.....

2 clubs got kicked out of ECNL this year so where else they gonna go? if you don't know the whole story, put that pie back in the frig

LOL...you're clueless, spewing nonsense, what 2 clubs? Well I'm waiting....oh this and then that, you have no idea what's going on. Your either some chubby mom who would rather be eating a chicken salad sandwich or a Dad who never accomplished anything as a kid. So which one are you?

Midwest United & Tulsa got the boot.

Midwest joined GA as a result I think that Tulsa dropping to ECRL