Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His this whole thread basically a marketing campaign for VRSC? Scrimmages against ecnl clubs means they are just as good? Who believes this nonsense?
Nobody is saying they believe they are just as good. Okay. Maybe some of the true believer zealot parents of VRSC think they are just as good.
However, one way to look at it is scrimmaging against a team that is a little better than you is good for the team. Scrimmaging against a team that is a lot worse, or will blow your doors off every time doesn't usually do a whole lot for the team.
You might call me a zealot, because I believe in the long-term vision at VRSC and their ability to execute against that vision because of the resources they have in place (first money, then a home complex, then quality coaches, and now national league platforms for both boys and girls). But I’ve been very clear in all of my posts that, as you would expect, they are still light years behind local ECNL teams in terms of talent. I agree with the PP about the lack of value in having teams at significantly different skill levels playing against each other. To me, this suggests at least some of the VRSC GA teams are somewhat better than I thought, otherwise BP would not scrimmage against them.
I'm not calling you anything. In the future VRSC may be better than NVA. I do not know. All I was saying, is they currently overall are not. However, it is to a team's benefit to scrimmage against a team that is better but not light years ahead of them.
Anonymous wrote:It doesnt matter how much money VRSC throws at the problem. You need a history of winning and solid coaching. They have neither.
Anonymous wrote:again you have neither. Need at least one.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It doesnt matter how much money VRSC throws at the problem. You need a history of winning and solid coaching. They have neither.
Yes, clubs with a history of winning always stay at the top forever. Nothing ever changes and new clubs and new coaches never emerge.
again you have neither. Need at least one.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It doesnt matter how much money VRSC throws at the problem. You need a history of winning and solid coaching. They have neither.
Yes, clubs with a history of winning always stay at the top forever. Nothing ever changes and new clubs and new coaches never emerge.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Not sure which age groups scrimmaged this weekend with VDA/VRSC but didn't VDA beat VRSC's 'best' 2009 GA team to something of the scoreline of like 8-0 a few months back? Maybe that is a selling point over at VRSC, you get to scrimmage VDA and if you're good enough, you'll get to move up to VDA.
They both played each other in the VDA Showcase back in February and it was 6-0 VDA. I heard that the 1st goal was scored in first 15 minutes and then they didn't score until 15 minutes into the 2nd half. Then it went downhill from there maybe VRSC was done because the last 4 goals which were corner kicks and turnovers were made in the last 20 minutes of the 2nd half. Either way it's great opportunity to play one of the strongest teams.
Pretty sure it was 09 again. It was ugly for VRSC. Lost track of the score because it was so one sided.
VRSC won't get better until they give fair evaluations to all the in-house talent. Multiple GA2 teams have better talent than the GA1 teams.
Anonymous wrote:It doesnt matter how much money VRSC throws at the problem. You need a history of winning and solid coaching. They have neither.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Not sure which age groups scrimmaged this weekend with VDA/VRSC but didn't VDA beat VRSC's 'best' 2009 GA team to something of the scoreline of like 8-0 a few months back? Maybe that is a selling point over at VRSC, you get to scrimmage VDA and if you're good enough, you'll get to move up to VDA.
They both played each other in the VDA Showcase back in February and it was 6-0 VDA. I heard that the 1st goal was scored in first 15 minutes and then they didn't score until 15 minutes into the 2nd half. Then it went downhill from there maybe VRSC was done because the last 4 goals which were corner kicks and turnovers were made in the last 20 minutes of the 2nd half. Either way it's great opportunity to play one of the strongest teams.
Anonymous wrote:
Not sure which age groups scrimmaged this weekend with VDA/VRSC but didn't VDA beat VRSC's 'best' 2009 GA team to something of the scoreline of like 8-0 a few months back? Maybe that is a selling point over at VRSC, you get to scrimmage VDA and if you're good enough, you'll get to move up to VDA.
Anonymous wrote:
Not sure which age groups scrimmaged this weekend with VDA/VRSC but didn't VDA beat VRSC's 'best' 2009 GA team to something of the scoreline of like 8-0 a few months back? Maybe that is a selling point over at VRSC, you get to scrimmage VDA and if you're good enough, you'll get to move up to VDA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His this whole thread basically a marketing campaign for VRSC? Scrimmages against ecnl clubs means they are just as good? Who believes this nonsense?
Nobody is saying they believe they are just as good. Okay. Maybe some of the true believer zealot parents of VRSC think they are just as good.
However, one way to look at it is scrimmaging against a team that is a little better than you is good for the team. Scrimmaging against a team that is a lot worse, or will blow your doors off every time doesn't usually do a whole lot for the team.
You might call me a zealot, because I believe in the long-term vision at VRSC and their ability to execute against that vision because of the resources they have in place (first money, then a home complex, then quality coaches, and now national league platforms for both boys and girls). But I’ve been very clear in all of my posts that, as you would expect, they are still light years behind local ECNL teams in terms of talent. I agree with the PP about the lack of value in having teams at significantly different skill levels playing against each other. To me, this suggests at least some of the VRSC GA teams are somewhat better than I thought, otherwise BP would not scrimmage against them.
I'm not calling you anything. In the future VRSC may be better than NVA. I do not know. All I was saying, is they currently overall are not. However, it is to a team's benefit to scrimmage against a team that is better but not light years ahead of them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His this whole thread basically a marketing campaign for VRSC? Scrimmages against ecnl clubs means they are just as good? Who believes this nonsense?
Nobody is saying they believe they are just as good. Okay. Maybe some of the true believer zealot parents of VRSC think they are just as good.
However, one way to look at it is scrimmaging against a team that is a little better than you is good for the team. Scrimmaging against a team that is a lot worse, or will blow your doors off every time doesn't usually do a whole lot for the team.
You might call me a zealot, because I believe in the long-term vision at VRSC and their ability to execute against that vision because of the resources they have in place (first money, then a home complex, then quality coaches, and now national league platforms for both boys and girls). But I’ve been very clear in all of my posts that, as you would expect, they are still light years behind local ECNL teams in terms of talent. I agree with the PP about the lack of value in having teams at significantly different skill levels playing against each other. To me, this suggests at least some of the VRSC GA teams are somewhat better than I thought, otherwise BP would not scrimmage against them.