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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google

How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?

Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?

It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.

They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.

Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.

Veteran in cybersecurity?

Nope and nope.

So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.

My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.

Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?

If you were interviewing fine you’d be getting past the screen.

Again, I’m talking about the resume screen. If they call me i move on; had an offer from Amazon but no interest in sweatshop or risking being their hire to fire ( which may be the PP).

I assume we are talking past each other. I mean the resume screen where a device or maybe some HR drone scans your resume and you get connected to a person to talk to. When I talk to somebody, I always move onto interviews and coding challenges, and have gotten a bunch of offers but most not paying the $250k+ I am looking for. I did get a decent offer from Amazon, but it’s so shady as mentioned above I passed on it.

I’m asking as a 40 year old how to get that interview with a top flight tech company and pass the resume screen. I think they have someone looking for graduation dates, and since PP has a recent grad date they get setup to talk to someone. My graduation date is not listed or is from a different century, so is THAT my problem? If I get a recent grad date will it get past the HR drone?

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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google

How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?

Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?

It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.

They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.

Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.

Veteran in cybersecurity?

Nope and nope.

So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.

My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.

Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?

If you were interviewing fine you’d be getting past the screen.

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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google

How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?

Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?

It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.

They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.

Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.

Veteran in cybersecurity?

Nope and nope.

So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.

My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.

Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?

They aren’t fine if you aren’t getting through the screening. Redo your resume and study for the interviews. He had none of those things. He worked his way up and it took 20 years.

What are you talking about? By screening I mean the resume screening; I don’t get a chance to code anything. Have you ever applied to Google? You don’t get to code away after applying.

Does he work for Amazon, they do screen any applicant. I’ve turned down their offers because I am not interested in a sweatshop.

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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google

How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?

Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?

It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.

They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.

Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.

Veteran in cybersecurity?

Nope and nope.

So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.

My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.

Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?

They aren’t fine if you aren’t getting through the screening. Redo your resume and study for the interviews. He had none of those things. He worked his way up and it took 20 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Netflix pays better than the others but has bad benefits.

How to get a job at Netflix or Google? Do they hire folks who only have DoD experience? (But on old technology). However, I am a hard worker and learn quickly (smart if I say so myself and get all with most folks) so definitely can pick up new skills - not sure if I can get hired without these skills but can't get them in the current job.

Those are top jobs. You'd need to impress in an interview.

As a dev? You need relevant experience to get an interview then you have to pass the interview. Many engineers get interviews but it's not easy to crack them.

Netflix pays 450k cash and only hire senior level engineers.

Has to be more than that now. I remember hearing the 450k figure thrown around even 4-5 years ago but big tech salaries have increased a lot since then. Netflix is a place that will fire you at the drop of a hat too.

What kind of skills does a senior level engineer need? What is in demand?

If you are asking this on DCUM, Netflix won’t be in the cards for you. They are ruthless.

But post questions on Hacker News for more general career advice.

Agree. I don't have the skills to join Netflix as I am working in old technology for too long. If I don't have programming skills but have the ability to get a TS (with full scope poly) and other good skills, wonder if I should get a non programming job in these companies even if I start from a lower level and work my way up. Would the pay be worth it?

I can’t see any reason Netflix would want a TS, but AWS and Azure with gov support would use it, but I doubt pay will be that stellar

AWS and Azure both pay a clearance bonus on top of the regular software engineer compensation. Typically around 40-60k. You can easily hit 300-400k TC in these positions.

To be a software engineer though I would need to take a bootcamp and get a degree or will certs suffice for such a high pay job?

Degree, certifications and clearance.

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Anonymous wrote:Netflix pays better than the others but has bad benefits.

How to get a job at Netflix or Google? Do they hire folks who only have DoD experience? (But on old technology). However, I am a hard worker and learn quickly (smart if I say so myself and get all with most folks) so definitely can pick up new skills - not sure if I can get hired without these skills but can't get them in the current job.

Those are top jobs. You'd need to impress in an interview.

As a dev? You need relevant experience to get an interview then you have to pass the interview. Many engineers get interviews but it's not easy to crack them.

Netflix pays 450k cash and only hire senior level engineers.

Has to be more than that now. I remember hearing the 450k figure thrown around even 4-5 years ago but big tech salaries have increased a lot since then. Netflix is a place that will fire you at the drop of a hat too.

What kind of skills does a senior level engineer need? What is in demand?

If you are asking this on DCUM, Netflix won’t be in the cards for you. They are ruthless.

But post questions on Hacker News for more general career advice.

Agree. I don't have the skills to join Netflix as I am working in old technology for too long. If I don't have programming skills but have the ability to get a TS (with full scope poly) and other good skills, wonder if I should get a non programming job in these companies even if I start from a lower level and work my way up. Would the pay be worth it?

I can’t see any reason Netflix would want a TS, but AWS and Azure with gov support would use it, but I doubt pay will be that stellar

AWS and Azure both pay a clearance bonus on top of the regular software engineer compensation. Typically around 40-60k. You can easily hit 300-400k TC in these positions.

To be a software engineer though I would need to take a bootcamp and get a degree or will certs suffice for such a high pay job?

Anonymous wrote:My DH is getting multiple poaching emails daily in tech, each with seemingly a higher salary than the other. Hard to figure out what to do- stay with current company to reap benefits of likely IPO in 4-5 years or jump for a higher salary now (plus maybe IPO later)

What speciality? ML?

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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google

How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?

Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?

It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.

They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.

Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.

Veteran in cybersecurity?

Nope and nope.

So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.

My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.

Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?

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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google

How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?

Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?

It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.

They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.

Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.

Veteran in cybersecurity?

Nope and nope.

So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.

My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.

Non tech role in a tech company, pre ipo. Make 200 plus another 20 bonus and equity in the company

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should add i'm 40, mid level manager

So what is your role and is it at a FAANG?

Anonymous wrote:Base: 185K
Bonus: 33.5K
Equity (amount that vests yearly): between 33K-46K

Other Comp:
300/year wellness stipend
1800/year for internet and mobile bills
500 for home office (one time)

Forgot to say that I work in a non-tech job at a tech company.

Base: 185K
Bonus: 33.5K
Equity (amount that vests yearly): between 33K-46K

Other Comp:
300/year wellness stipend
1800/year for internet and mobile bills
500 for home office (one time)

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Anonymous wrote:Not in the job market currently but Microsoft recruiter found my resume and LinkedIn profile. He is trying to poach me and said salary can be up to $350k. This is for a DC area position.

What role or skill commands that much salary without even applying?

Cloud architect with TS/SCI clearance.

Yep, now that all of the cloud vendors wone the latest competition, they all need to staff up quickly between poaching from AWS skilled people and also just training anyone with a clearance and a heartbeat.

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Anonymous wrote:Geez these salaries are insane. I’m at 235k plus bonus which is around 5 to 10 percent. I do gov contracting with ts sci and feel underpaid given the immense need for cleared software engineers and how few of us there are. Not many young folks coming in either. Have an interview scheduled with a FANG to see what I can pull in if I sell my soul.

Even in the TS/SCI world, it's still a race to the bottom (low bid). I am in that same world but in slightly different field - same dilemma. Most of us are 50-60 or above. None of the younger talents want it. They all want to work from home in their PJ.

Tell that to their money grubbing parents.