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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Again, won't take responsibility because you think eating well is only for the rich. It's so easy to blame other people - rich, government, schools, other. It is on you. Period.

And yes, I work a full time job. A busy one. I don't have time for hair or nails, or the gym. Why? Because I put other things - like making food for my family - first. So I don't have time for shopping, nails and other luxuries. But you can pretend, right?

I come from a family that is flanked by morbid obesity - one side is Mex-American the other small town Midwest. Both are statistically more prone to obesity than many other groups in the US. I've had multiple cousins die of obesity related illnesses and it wasn't pretty. They died before their time and refused to do anything to make themselves healthier. And nearly all my cousins and extended family are the same. It is so damn sad. IF only they had taken personal responsibility and done something about it. So you can sit around and blame the government all you want. But in the interim if people don't take responsibility for themselves they will die. Period. Take your pick. Cake or death?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I made bad choices. When I moved here I didn’t know that the food could be “bad”. In my country you gained weight if you ate too many sweets. I didn’t know that restaurant food could be processed junk filled with chemicals. They didn’t put chemicals in food in my country. I didn’t know food in USA was a minefield and you have to watch every step.

My friend’s daughter, 11, almost died last summer from undiagnosed diabetes. No one even considered it, the girl is thin as a model and ate a normal American kid diet.

Most of pre diabetics don’t even know they have it unless you check for it specifically.

You wrote almost the same story in the previous thread. So you still don't even know the difference between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes despite me trying to educate you a little?! Wow.

Your friend's daughter definitely has Type 1, previously aka juvenile diabetes. It is VERY different from Type 2, is not caused by eating too much food or eating wrong food, or not moving enough. In fact, the cause (or, probably, causes) are still unknown. Unlike T1, T2 is not reversible. Please don't ever bring up your daughter's Type 1 diabetes into any similar discussion.

Signed,

Mom of T2 child.

Gosh, I messed up, another correction - should have been 'Unlike T2, T1 is not reversible.'

I just hate that when some people hear a child had T1, they think parents fed her/him too many sweets. Those two types of diabetes should have been named completely different. Because they are fundamentally different.

Since you keep confusing the two, maybe go a little easy on OP then, eh?

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Your friend's daughter definitely has Type 1, previously aka juvenile diabetes. It is VERY different from Type 2, is not caused by eating too much food or eating wrong food, or not moving enough. In fact, the cause (or, probably, causes) are still unknown.

Riiight. That’s what you are led to believe.

I wonder then why T1 diabetes rates have been steadily rising at the same time with T2 diabetes? Maybe, and I’m just throwing it out there, maybe diseases of endocrine system as well as other diseases do have something to do with what you eat.

Even if food is causing T1 diabetes in some way, it is certainly absolutely different from the mechanisms that cause T2.

DP. You're defensively saying that 1 is autoimmune and that T2 is caused by bad diet. That's wrong. They're both genetic and they're both treated similarly. There's no division on the diabetes boards. There shouldn't be here either.

This is the most ignorant and ridiculous thing I heard. Especially since it is soooo easy to verify and disprove. Please educate yourself.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/diabetes-the-basics/differences-between-type-1-and-type-2-diabetes

T1 is autoimmune, rarely genetic and is not affected by lifestyle. T2 is largely genetic but also due to a lifestyle choices.

But if you think 'this is what I was led to believe'... No one will persuade you, you are just a science denier.

Yes, T1 is genetic, as is T2. And while T1 is not triggered by lifestyle, both are treated by lifestyle changes.

If your DC is diabetic, please spend time on the various diabetes boards. Over time, you'll learn a lot.

No, no and no. What you are writing is all utter BS, lol ))))
You are the one who has to learn some very basic things. Oh, and preferably not through boards, there may be people just as ignorant as you.
Are you also an anti vaxer incidentally? Into wild conspiracy theories much? Ugh, bye.

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

And is “I am rich and educated and therefore should make the rules about what the poor and uneducated should be feeding their families” really better?

Anonymous wrote:It's their fault! Not the company, government, lazies that buy cell phones but have no money for food!
Typical dcum! Let them eat cake! They, they, they, they...
You are too stupid, you are THEY too!

Nah. We’re a nation of individuals free to make decisions regarding what we eat. You can do it, too.

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Anonymous wrote:

And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Anonymous wrote:It's their fault! Not the company, government, lazies that buy cell phones but have no money for food!
Typical dcum! Let them eat cake! They, they, they, they...
You are too stupid, you are THEY too!

Glad we can agree on something

It's their fault! Not the company, government, lazies that buy cell phones but have no money for food!
Typical dcum! Let them eat cake! They, they, they, they...
You are too stupid, you are THEY too!

Anonymous wrote:While we have barely any money for school lunches, we somehow have trillions to invade other countries! And donate, and "aid" the world.

"The National School Lunch Program provides low-cost or free school lunches to 31 million students at more than 100,000 public and private schools per day. Meals must meet nutritional standards based on the Dietary Guidelines for Americans.

Participating schools receive approximately $1.30 to spend for each child. This amount must cover the food, as well as any labor, equipment, electricity, and other costs. School food programs also depend on income from students who often pay for the food they eat.

Tight budgets make serving healthier foods challenging."

And many of the parents that can’t send their kids to school with lunch can afford iPhones, dogs, and other things less important than their children’s food

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Anonymous wrote:

And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

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Anonymous wrote:Just think about how wrong it is to say: "I'd never let the school feed my kids!"
Imagine that being said in Frane, Japan, South Korea?
Where people are demanding accountability! From schools and their governments.
But, here we elect our officials.... so they can serve huge corporations!
Bravo America.

+10000

Schools get away with serving crap to kids, but it’s average Joe’s fault for eating it.

Schools schools shouldn’t serve food, period. Do you expect your work to cook your lunch? Parents are responsible for providing kids with food. School can have a few healthy items on hand- but they shouldn’t be responsible for cooking meals. No vending machines, no mystery meat, no chocolate milk. Parents can and should feed their kids. School can have safety net items like white milk and fresh fruit. No one will starve. American does not have the same economic and government model as other countries. We are set up to maximize personal freedoms and choices. If you want the government to make and provide your daily lunch AND you want it to be heathy, you are in the wrong country. If you have the ability to make good choices for yourself and are able to earn enough money to live/thrive, you will be fine

I've worked at jobs with good cafeterias. Sorry that you haven't.

Was it free?

Anonymous wrote:So, pp that doesn't want schools to serve lunches, let alone healthy lunches, your solution is to move to another country if you want healthier school lunches?

The solution is to bring your own lunch

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Actually, people in this thread have said repeatedly that they DO care, and that they take the initiative to make healthy food choices rather than waiting for “the system” to do it for them.

It’s saying you’re content with schools serving crappy food, food industry producing crappy food, restaurants serving crappy food. That part you’re fine with.
You put responsibility on an individual to somehow survive and thrive in this environment.

That’s nuts. And also doesn’t work if you noticed American health statistics.

No, not content with it. It sucks that “crappy food” is in such demand. We generally avoid school lunches for our kids, and there are enough like minded people in our boundary that food outside of lunch is not allowed at school. No candy, no junk, no snacks. That part of our local system has been changed, because there was support for that change.

We generally avoid “crappy food” at restaurants, outside of the occasional treat. We make better choices. But this being America where people don’t take kindly to being told what to do, what is demanded will be supplied. The system doesn’t change because people like unhealthy foods. Too many people like too much unhealthy food, in my opinion, but that is their prerogative. I make healthy choices for my family. I have the power to do that, as do you.

I lived in 5 industrial countries, other than in the U.S. it is not like this in all of them!
What a thing to say!
Maybe in fatso England!

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.