Anonymous
Post 05/19/2021 07:30     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is happening with math now, aside from everyone in 4/5 bombarding their principal with questions because of this thread?



Exactly what has been posted on this thread is what is happening. I am not sure what you are asking. As soon as we are done with Map testing and the 4th quarter Performance Matters testing, schools will notify parents about their child's 5th-grade math placement. Unless your child meets the 3 criteria, your letter will say Math 5. I'm not sure what else you are asking or if you had another question.


I think the question is: Is MCPS going to announce the math curriculum change they have been talking about announcing for months or a pandemic recovery plan or anything? Or are they too busy focusing on how to mess with 4th Graders in math 4/5?


Our MS said no changes but the names of the classes may change with the new curriculum. So there will be AIM or AIM equivalent. Kids who weren't in compacted math are allowed in AIM if wanting to try it or ready.


So if a child wasn’t in 4/5 but wants to compacted 5/6 they can if they meet the scores?


This is definitely not true at every middle school. I think they are still working on the requirements for the advanced middle school math.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2021 07:24     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is happening with math now, aside from everyone in 4/5 bombarding their principal with questions because of this thread?



Exactly what has been posted on this thread is what is happening. I am not sure what you are asking. As soon as we are done with Map testing and the 4th quarter Performance Matters testing, schools will notify parents about their child's 5th-grade math placement. Unless your child meets the 3 criteria, your letter will say Math 5. I'm not sure what else you are asking or if you had another question.


I think the question is: Is MCPS going to announce the math curriculum change they have been talking about announcing for months or a pandemic recovery plan or anything? Or are they too busy focusing on how to mess with 4th Graders in math 4/5?


Our MS said no changes but the names of the classes may change with the new curriculum. So there will be AIM or AIM equivalent. Kids who weren't in compacted math are allowed in AIM if wanting to try it or ready.


So if a child wasn’t in 4/5 but wants to compacted 5/6 they can if they meet the scores?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:58     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.


My third grader meets that criteria - can he go straight to 5/6?!!


Yes as long as your 3rd grader has successfully gotten A’s for all quarters of Compacted 4/5 and has earned a 4 or 5 on performance matters testing. If your 3rd grader took 3rd grade math, then of course your child cannot.


How do you know what your kid scores on performance matters testing?


Your child’s teacher would know. Just to clarify, if you are the parent of the 3rd grader, then your child has taken performance matters testing, but not the 4/5 assessments that are required. A 3rd grader will not be placed in 5/6.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:51     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.


My third grader meets that criteria - can he go straight to 5/6?!!


Yes as long as your 3rd grader has successfully gotten A’s for all quarters of Compacted 4/5 and has earned a 4 or 5 on performance matters testing. If your 3rd grader took 3rd grade math, then of course your child cannot.


How do you know what your kid scores on performance matters testing?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 20:50     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.


Dear Teacher, is there an actual “because” behind the criteria fir continuing from 4/5 to 5/6? I imagine a number of kids who don’t need to repeat material may have messed up one of the 3 during the pandemic.


I actually learned about the requirements through this thread! My SDT did not send me the information until the next day. I say this to let you know that teachers have not been included in any of the decision making- we are learning right along with the parents. The reasoning in coming from central office and has not been shared with teachers yet. Us teachers feel blindsided and like we are letting our students down.


You aren’t but the county is. How in the world do they justify this for kids already in the compacted track who are getting good grades? It’s just mean ans so totally tone deaf. So much for equity!
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 19:47     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.


Dear Teacher, is there an actual “because” behind the criteria fir continuing from 4/5 to 5/6? I imagine a number of kids who don’t need to repeat material may have messed up one of the 3 during the pandemic.


I actually learned about the requirements through this thread! My SDT did not send me the information until the next day. I say this to let you know that teachers have not been included in any of the decision making- we are learning right along with the parents. The reasoning in coming from central office and has not been shared with teachers yet. Us teachers feel blindsided and like we are letting our students down.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 19:31     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.


Dear Teacher, is there an actual “because” behind the criteria fir continuing from 4/5 to 5/6? I imagine a number of kids who don’t need to repeat material may have messed up one of the 3 during the pandemic.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 19:16     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.


My third grader meets that criteria - can he go straight to 5/6?!!


Yes as long as your 3rd grader has successfully gotten A’s for all quarters of Compacted 4/5 and has earned a 4 or 5 on performance matters testing. If your 3rd grader took 3rd grade math, then of course your child cannot.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 19:08     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.


My third grader meets that criteria - can he go straight to 5/6?!!
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 18:40     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.



These are the numbers coming from the county. Maybe they are 90th percent in the county?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 18:33     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:238 in the spring of 4th is the 96th percentile, not the 90th. A 230 is the 90th percentile. Which one is it?

See page 22 of this chart: https://teach.mapnwea.org/impl/NormsTables.pdf


Also, a 218 in the fall of 4th is 90th, not a 220 (which is 92nd) - see page 18 in that chart
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 18:30     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
238 in the spring of 4th is the 96th percentile, not the 90th. A 230 is the 90th percentile. Which one is it?

See page 22 of this chart: https://teach.mapnwea.org/impl/NormsTables.pdf
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 18:16     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.


So 90th%? Sorry, but that is crap, particularly as our DC’s class didn’t even cover all of the material.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 18:01     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
I’m a teacher. MCPS is using the following numbers:

220 in the Fall
Or
238 in the Spring

The kids must meet one of those two score.

There are also 2 other required criteria.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2021 17:46     Subject: Compacted Math- FYI
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:90% is 238 or higher for the end of 4th grade Map.


Where are you seeing that? It doesn't seem to equate to the scores I've seen. I'm looking at my older child's MAP on parentvue and it says a 236 was 95% for spring of 4th grade.


The 2020 NWEA norms say 230 is a spring 99%ile for 4th Grade


Can you link to that norm and give the page number? I tried to pull the norms but the chart I was looking at did not look correct, so I was looking at the wrong thing. If 230 is 99%, what is 90% (which is what MCPS apparently is going to use?)?