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Anonymous wrote:Can the people who didn’t like Oberlin elaborate please? We’re waiting to hear from them before a visit.

I didn’t go to school there but I lived in Oberlin.

It is kind a depressing area in Lorain County, Ohio. It’s not close to the lake and the cities of Elyria and Lorain are depressing. Oberlin itself is a dry town (or was when I lived there) and there are no bars or anything for nightlife. And it’s bloody cold in the winter.

My child loved Oberlin even more after her visit and she is so happy as a student there. The town is cute but not a party town so if you’re looking for nightlife like PP you won’t find your vibe. I highly recommend going to visit because people seem to have extreme opinions if Oberlin and we were very pleasantly surprised with how great it was. And the current president is wonderful.

+1. Yeah. I have an Obie. I think it’s an amazing place and a great education and I couldn’t see my kid anywhere else. But even though I love for my kid, I wouldn’t get on DCUM and say every kid should go. Beyond Fox News talking points, kids who visit are either like: really smart creative quirky people doing interesting things! I have found my home. Or: oh, heck no. I don’t talk to many (any) people who visit who are neutral, or think it’s “ok” or have it as a 4th choice out of 10. My kid did an overnight and the other 9 colleges disappeared. I think for Oberlin, more than any college I’ve visited (on kid 2, who is not planning to attend) getting a kid on campus is important. A miserable kid at Oberlin isn’t good for anyone.

Love Carmen Amber. She moved heaven and Earth to get kid
S on campus and in classrooms and labs and in the Con with instrument. And the “we are a community who care for each other” mantra has set a great tone for COVID expectations. I also think she’s going to do an excellent job making sure Oberlin comes out of this in good financial shape, which as the payer of tuition bills is nice.

“Fox News talking points”? You mean these, found across MSM? There’s a real reason many people don’t want to go there.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/us/oberlin-bakery-lawsuit.amp.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/10/oberlin-college-gibsons-bakery-libel-million-racist/?outputType=amp
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1523525001
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/oberlin-college-president-defamation-lawsuit-verdict-gibsons-bakery-44-million-libel/
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/oberlin-gibson-bakery-protest-defamation-suit-controversy-culture-war-850404/amp/

^^ sorry iPhone. You get the gist. Very different culture.

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Anonymous wrote:Went to grad school at Vanderbilt sight unseen because it was the top in my field and it was a huge mistake. The women there dress up just to go to regular classes. Was so strange to see coming from a northern undergrad. For a school with such bright students it had an old fashioned, off-putting “my main goal is to meet my husband” vibe.

it's your internalized misogyny for me

I attended Vandy in the late 80’s and there was some dressing up (like for football games), but the poster has overplayed it. Vandy is very similar to UVA in its attire. There’s nothing wrong with showering before class, combing/brushing your hair, and wearing some clean clothes other than a worn T-shirt and gym shorts.

Exactly. It’s very much like UVA and if you like that, it’s your preference. It is very different from most non-southern schools. The first line about Vandy in the Fiske guide is about its “old south gentility.”

Do they add a wink after the "old south gentility" part?

If you are from the North, DO NOT consider schools from the South. They are all racist and full of fratty/ sorority morons that have no intellectual capacity to compete or live in the real world. I beg you, stick to your wonderfully open minded Northern schools that are the beacon of hope for all of humanity, it is the only way to save this world!

Nice try. That’s not what was said. There are many bad northern culture characteristics too. Students should know what their choices are and then “pick their poison.”

No, it was spot on.

It is. I grew up in the South and went to a so called Southern Ivy. I have friends who stayed and whose kids are there now. It’s a very insular area with many folks, especially 50+ seeing no problem with saying that everyone is happier when like stays with like. It’s how it’s meant to be. Everyone is happier if they keep to their own religion, race, etc. we can like together, not mix.

Now, RTP, Charlotte, Atlanta, Charleston have are obviously not in the same category. But get outside the metro areas and it’s different. My MIL is a deep blue Dem who worked against getting MTG elected (DH grew up in her district. Hated it). And despite being otherwise progressive and not listening to Fox News was up Kherson when Lee HS was renamed and was really a get about cancelling Southern heritage. And even blue bloods in the metro areas are very socially conservative. It’s a very “and who is your family, dear and what church do you attend place”. Women who without sarcasm call you “hon”. Lots of people love it.

Just know what you are getting into. I would send a kid to the South for college. They have culture shock and hate it.

Anonymous wrote:The overwhelming majority of posts on this thread is ridiculous. The reasons given by parents and students alike for writing off schools are silly.

Brats and their striver 'cool moms' parading around on college visits so they can boast they "toured" schools their kid probably can't even get into is in itself ridiculous. Of course it comes with 'hating' the school for stupid reasons; campus felt dead during a generic tour (tour was in the summer), food was crummy, randomly saw a group of students that triggered them, or their tour guide was lame. The entire theater of all of this is so pathetic. Not to mention we're talking about colleges that can cost upwards of $300,000 for four years.

Imagine taking a teen to the local Ferrari or Bentley dealership. Pick the one you want, sweetheart. Yeah, I agree, the wheels on that Bentley are awful, so that's a no-go. And the Ferrari dealership's free cappuccino was bad, so we're not buying a car there. The vibe of the Aston Martin showroom was weird, so I don't want one of those cars mommy.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon felt like a community college

??? How so??

This isn’t surprising. 25 years ago it was a regional commuter school. It’s really taken off.

Take your kid to Montgomery College and then get back to me about Elon.

Snot you want. I haven’t seen it since the 1990s. But if it has the layout and feel of a commuter college that’s because it was back then. I’m sure it’s been developed and such since and is lovely. I’m just giving the history. It was a very local college that made a jump.

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt is in the news right now because frat guys dress in confederate soldier outfits and ride up to sororities to pick girls up for an old south ball. Barf.

Shit, take that one off the list.

Anonymous wrote:The overwhelming majority of posts on this thread is ridiculous. The reasons given by parents and students alike for writing off schools are silly.

Agreed, but what do you expect with this ilk that is called DCUM?

The overwhelming majority of posts on this thread is ridiculous. The reasons given by parents and students alike for writing off schools are silly.

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Anonymous wrote:Went to grad school at Vanderbilt sight unseen because it was the top in my field and it was a huge mistake. The women there dress up just to go to regular classes. Was so strange to see coming from a northern undergrad. For a school with such bright students it had an old fashioned, off-putting “my main goal is to meet my husband” vibe.

it's your internalized misogyny for me

I attended Vandy in the late 80’s and there was some dressing up (like for football games), but the poster has overplayed it. Vandy is very similar to UVA in its attire. There’s nothing wrong with showering before class, combing/brushing your hair, and wearing some clean clothes other than a worn T-shirt and gym shorts.

Exactly. It’s very much like UVA and if you like that, it’s your preference. It is very different from most non-southern schools. The first line about Vandy in the Fiske guide is about its “old south gentility.”

Do they add a wink after the "old south gentility" part?

If you are from the North, DO NOT consider schools from the South. They are all racist and full of fratty/ sorority morons that have no intellectual capacity to compete or live in the real world. I beg you, stick to your wonderfully open minded Northern schools that are the beacon of hope for all of humanity, it is the only way to save this world!

Nice try. That’s not what was said. There are many bad northern culture characteristics too. Students should know what their choices are and then “pick their poison.”

No, it was spot on.

Vanderbilt is in the news right now because frat guys dress in confederate soldier outfits and ride up to sororities to pick girls up for an old south ball. Barf.

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Anonymous wrote:Went to grad school at Vanderbilt sight unseen because it was the top in my field and it was a huge mistake. The women there dress up just to go to regular classes. Was so strange to see coming from a northern undergrad. For a school with such bright students it had an old fashioned, off-putting “my main goal is to meet my husband” vibe.

it's your internalized misogyny for me

I attended Vandy in the late 80’s and there was some dressing up (like for football games), but the poster has overplayed it. Vandy is very similar to UVA in its attire. There’s nothing wrong with showering before class, combing/brushing your hair, and wearing some clean clothes other than a worn T-shirt and gym shorts.

Exactly. It’s very much like UVA and if you like that, it’s your preference. It is very different from most non-southern schools. The first line about Vandy in the Fiske guide is about its “old south gentility.”

Do they add a wink after the "old south gentility" part?

If you are from the North, DO NOT consider schools from the South. They are all racist and full of fratty/ sorority morons that have no intellectual capacity to compete or live in the real world. I beg you, stick to your wonderfully open minded Northern schools that are the beacon of hope for all of humanity, it is the only way to save this world!

Nice try. That’s not what was said. There are many bad northern culture characteristics too. Students should know what their choices are and then “pick their poison.”

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Anonymous wrote:Elon felt like a community college

??? How so??

This isn’t surprising. 25 years ago it was a regional commuter school. It’s really taken off.

Take your kid to Montgomery College and then get back to me about Elon.

Actually that was the comment that my kid said, it felt like Montgomery College with dorms.

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Anonymous wrote:Tulane - it was a dump

really?!?! it looks so nice on the website and virtual tours. tell me more.

I agree - they are doing lots of construction, have new dorms and commons/cafeteria and are constructing a new engineering building in the middle of the campus. I think the PP’s comment is either outdated or perhaps a distaste for construction, but the construction in my view is a positive (particularly the investment in engineering).

We visited in 2018, so maybe it has changed. The dorms were extremely small and very old. Just felt the campus in general was old and needed updated. Also, the city of New Orleans is probably the dirtiest city that I have ever visited..

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Anonymous wrote:Elon felt like a community college

??? How so??

This isn’t surprising. 25 years ago it was a regional commuter school. It’s really taken off.

Take your kid to Montgomery College and then get back to me about Elon.

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Anonymous wrote:Went to grad school at Vanderbilt sight unseen because it was the top in my field and it was a huge mistake. The women there dress up just to go to regular classes. Was so strange to see coming from a northern undergrad. For a school with such bright students it had an old fashioned, off-putting “my main goal is to meet my husband” vibe.

it's your internalized misogyny for me

I attended Vandy in the late 80’s and there was some dressing up (like for football games), but the poster has overplayed it. Vandy is very similar to UVA in its attire. There’s nothing wrong with showering before class, combing/brushing your hair, and wearing some clean clothes other than a worn T-shirt and gym shorts.

Exactly. It’s very much like UVA and if you like that, it’s your preference. It is very different from most non-southern schools. The first line about Vandy in the Fiske guide is about its “old south gentility.”

Do they add a wink after the "old south gentility" part?

If you are from the North, DO NOT consider schools from the South. They are all racist and full of fratty/ sorority morons that have no intellectual capacity to compete or live in the real world. I beg you, stick to your wonderfully open minded Northern schools that are the beacon of hope for all of humanity, it is the only way to save this world!