Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 15:23     Subject: Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:NYT columnist Paul Krugman is tweeting about the $166 billion cost. He thinks they're a waste of money and only unemployed people should be compensated while the government made us waste a year of our life on lockdown.

@PaulKrugman: "This is pretty upsetting. The "stimulus" checks, which aren't that essential, will cost more than UI, which is. Could easily have done UI long enough to get through until economic recovery."


AOC and Trump are upset that the stimulus checks are not $1200 or even $2000. That tells you a lot about the quality of thinking behind the stimulus checks.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 15:11     Subject: Re:Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:
Yes, but requirements to interview in-person or confirm job application submissions is voided due to the pandemic.


OK, but that doesn't mean that people can just choose not to look for work. Or does it?


In practice?

Let’s just put it this way, if you have 3 kids and only UI - you were definitely looking for work.

If you were some high school kid who is living with mom and dad - just UI is fine.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 15:06     Subject: Re:Covid Relief Bill thread

Yes, but requirements to interview in-person or confirm job application submissions is voided due to the pandemic.


OK, but that doesn't mean that people can just choose not to look for work. Or does it?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 15:00     Subject: Re:Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:Isn't "actively seeking employment" a standard requirement for receiving unemployment benefits?


Yes, but requirements to interview in-person or confirm job application submissions is voided due to the pandemic.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 14:55     Subject: Re:Covid Relief Bill thread

Isn't "actively seeking employment" a standard requirement for receiving unemployment benefits?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 14:51     Subject: Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare so I'm fortunate to have a job. I know many have lost their job and I feel for them. However, we are desperate to hire in healthcare. You don't have to be a nurse or other healthcare professional. We are desperate for people to work as transporters, registration clerks, patient care assistants, safety sitters, phlebotomists, dietary techs, housekeepers... the list goes on and on. These are all jobs that offer a few weeks of OJT and you're good to go.

I don't understand why people who have lost their job are not applying for these positions. They are not highly paid, we pay in the $13-18 per hour range plus shift and weekend differential, but some money and benefits is better than no money and benefits. Oh, and benefit cost is sliding scale based on wage so the cost to insure yourself is zero and to insure your family is kept low.


Why would I want to get a risky, low paid job, if I can get UI, some child support, and stay home and keep my child safe and more or less educated (with online school)?


C'mon. I don't support UI but you are being disingenuous.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 14:48     Subject: Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare so I'm fortunate to have a job. I know many have lost their job and I feel for them. However, we are desperate to hire in healthcare. You don't have to be a nurse or other healthcare professional. We are desperate for people to work as transporters, registration clerks, patient care assistants, safety sitters, phlebotomists, dietary techs, housekeepers... the list goes on and on. These are all jobs that offer a few weeks of OJT and you're good to go.

I don't understand why people who have lost their job are not applying for these positions. They are not highly paid, we pay in the $13-18 per hour range plus shift and weekend differential, but some money and benefits is better than no money and benefits. Oh, and benefit cost is sliding scale based on wage so the cost to insure yourself is zero and to insure your family is kept low.


Why would I want to get a risky, low paid job, if I can get UI, some child support, and stay home and keep my child safe and more or less educated (with online school)?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 14:45     Subject: Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:NYT columnist Paul Krugman is tweeting about the $166 billion cost. He thinks they're a waste of money and only unemployed people should be compensated while the government made us waste a year of our life on lockdown.

@PaulKrugman: "This is pretty upsetting. The "stimulus" checks, which aren't that essential, will cost more than UI, which is. Could easily have done UI long enough to get through until economic recovery."

He is correct.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 14:31     Subject: Re:Covid Relief Bill thread

Took so long but it’s finally here

Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 11:51     Subject: Covid Relief Bill thread

NYT columnist Paul Krugman is tweeting about the $166 billion cost. He thinks they're a waste of money and only unemployed people should be compensated while the government made us waste a year of our life on lockdown.

@PaulKrugman: "This is pretty upsetting. The "stimulus" checks, which aren't that essential, will cost more than UI, which is. Could easily have done UI long enough to get through until economic recovery."
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 11:42     Subject: Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:For those who were wondering, $600 stim checks cost $166 billion.

Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 11:39     Subject: Covid Relief Bill thread

For those who were wondering, $600 stim checks cost $166 billion.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 11:30     Subject: Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare so I'm fortunate to have a job. I know many have lost their job and I feel for them. However, we are desperate to hire in healthcare. You don't have to be a nurse or other healthcare professional. We are desperate for people to work as transporters, registration clerks, patient care assistants, safety sitters, phlebotomists, dietary techs, housekeepers... the list goes on and on. These are all jobs that offer a few weeks of OJT and you're good to go.

I don't understand why people who have lost their job are not applying for these positions. They are not highly paid, we pay in the $13-18 per hour range plus shift and weekend differential, but some money and benefits is better than no money and benefits. Oh, and benefit cost is sliding scale based on wage so the cost to insure yourself is zero and to insure your family is kept low.


First of all, that pay range is atrocious.

Secondly, if you're working for a healthcare provider, you are exposing yourself to COVID infected patients.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 11:25     Subject: Re:Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


AGAIN, President Trump and Secretary Mnuchin are not Senators. You’d think Senator Cornyn would know that, but he’s too busy riding the BS blame Nancy train.


Isn’t this a republican self-own? If they think the 1.8bil bill was so great ... why not put it back on the table?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2020 11:24     Subject: Re:Covid Relief Bill thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


AGAIN, President Trump and Secretary Mnuchin are not Senators. You’d think Senator Cornyn would know that, but he’s too busy riding the BS blame Nancy train.


This is their sick and twisted blame game to shirk their responsibility.