Anonymous wrote:Plus they’re NOT meant to do any of the chores the OP mentioned. I almost think this deserves a call to the local authorities to bust this young lady out from this exploitation. It’s exploiting if you’re not paying market rates, and you’re not! Also if you want her to do what State Dpt says you shouldn’t! You put it in writing. This area has so many abusers. Don’t get me started on poor G5’s working for some of the nationals from Africa and Asia, diplomats or IMF or whatever. It’s ridiculous, google it. But FBI gets to at least some of these eventually
Anonymous wrote:Oh, poor her, 2BD apt in Milan. Compared to a basement room in a big house in an anonymous DMV suburb. Such a dumb American thing to say; that’s why we are the but of jokes everywhere. Everyone lives in apartments in Milan Rome Paris. You should be so lucky to have a chance at a 2BD in one of these places, middle aged suburban housewife.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have one family in our circle that uses an au pair and it’s so gross. Say whatever you want to justify it, but it’s sourcing a poor brown girl to come live in your house and parent your children, probably put up with your DH’s creep show.
Our neighbors who do this are the laziest, worst parents in the neighborhood. The au pair took their kids trick or treating!
And yes, I’m sure it’s a million times worse now that these girls are effectively locked in the house, can’t socialize with their home country peers, and on top of it all get to now manage home schooling for your kids. Which you WFH moms just LOVE to tell us relentlessly is a full time job. But sure, $200 a week (much of which gets paid back to the agency) should cover it.
You seem to be misinformed. The stipend is federally mandated, and it’s all for the AP. No part of it goes to the agency.
Anonymous wrote:The OP said that she wanted the au pair to "keep the kitchen and family room tidy. Right now, none of those things happen." The au pair is not supposed to do general housework-she is supposed to do childcare and tasks related to that. The au pair could help tidy the child's room for instance, but is not supposed to clean the kitchen nor the family room. When this program was initiated, the au pair was an extra pair of hands for the mother, a mother's helper, and it was all supposed to be part of a cultural exchange. Today it's the norm for both parents to work and the au pair is now expected to function as a nanny, taking care of the children alone. And apparently expected to do general housework too!
Anonymous wrote:We have one family in our circle that uses an au pair and it’s so gross. Say whatever you want to justify it, but it’s sourcing a poor brown girl to come live in your house and parent your children, probably put up with your DH’s creep show.
Our neighbors who do this are the laziest, worst parents in the neighborhood. The au pair took their kids trick or treating!
And yes, I’m sure it’s a million times worse now that these girls are effectively locked in the house, can’t socialize with their home country peers, and on top of it all get to now manage home schooling for your kids. Which you WFH moms just LOVE to tell us relentlessly is a full time job. But sure, $200 a week (much of which gets paid back to the agency) should cover it.
Anonymous wrote:I‘ve met a lot of au pairs and very few were interested in their charges at all. I don’t think it’s their fault though, they are mostly very young, want to travel and meet boyfriends and aren’t paid even remotely what nannies are worth. People should stop confusing au pairs with nannies, they are more like an older child that can legally watch your kids.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, as a fellow host mom the dynamics have changed a lot and many au pairs - now scarce and in demand - are understandably leveraging the new dynamic.
That said, I think if you can afford to pay her more, do so, make her show you she is stepping it up. I think the PP at 5:55 is spot on, but I would phrase it more positively.
Trump froze au pair visas for the pandemic. Biden might lift that but I doubt he’ll do it in the first 90 days while we’re staying at 500,000 Americ as is dead. The au pair deserves more money especially if the kid(s) are home 24/7.
A normal nanny, even with board, would be 2x this for multiple kids.
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how one can be an au pair and not interact with the children? Isn't that the job?
Later in the thread OP shared the hours. The au pair is on from 8 AM - 3 PM, I believe. HM makes up missing work hours after kid bedtime.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP said she works under hours. And the tidying up likely referred to tasks while on duty and related to the kids.Anonymous wrote:Additional pay for additional chores done if which are not kosher.
Tasks that are inappropriate for Au Pairs (there is a very long list includes meals dishes etc)
cleaning messes the children left during the Au Pair’s off hours;
working overtime (past 45 hours/ week) for any reason, even with additional pay
Etc etc etc
And you believe what the OP said? When the OP said she works full-time, has a preschool-aged child and an ES kid in full-time distance learning?
LOL.
Anonymous wrote:OP said she works under hours. And the tidying up likely referred to tasks while on duty and related to the kids.Anonymous wrote:Additional pay for additional chores done if which are not kosher.
Tasks that are inappropriate for Au Pairs (there is a very long list includes meals dishes etc)
cleaning messes the children left during the Au Pair’s off hours;
working overtime (past 45 hours/ week) for any reason, even with additional pay
Etc etc etc
Anonymous wrote:The NYT posted an article at the beginning of this past summer about how au pairs were caught unawares when the shutdown happened. They expected to have part of each day free, when children were in school, and instead had the children all day. In some cases the au pairs had to isolate at home too and could not explore their surroundings.