Anonymous
12/17/2020 10:21
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Thread title is “physical attributes”.
Yeah. Well. We have progressed
.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.
Not many tall fast players. Lmfao
Almost every tall player can outrun a shorty.every time
Soccer is still a 10 yard game and quickness is vital. Tall kids are fast but that is why they play on the outside.
Like most sports there are different positions with varying attribute needs. As players grow and advance through competitive levels those attributes certainly get filtered but by the same token it is also rather useless to look at size charts for Premier League soccer players as if they correlate to both youth or collegiate soccer considering Division I, II, III levels of play.
Actual skill will always be the primary determinant with relative size being a filter of sorts. You can be a tall player and may get the benefit of the doubt but at some point you have to be able to play. If you are a talented player, regardless of size, there is a college spot for you.
Anonymous
12/17/2020 08:08
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Thread title is “physical attributes”.
Yeah. Well. We have progressed
.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.
Not many tall fast players. Lmfao
Almost every tall player can outrun a shorty.every time
That's not how speed works champ.
Actually, it is. https://www.livescience.com/7819-taller-athletes-faster-study-finds.html
Anonymous
12/16/2020 21:33
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Thread title is “physical attributes”.
Yeah. Well. We have progressed
.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.
Not many tall fast players. Lmfao
Almost every tall player can outrun a shorty.every time
That's not how speed works champ.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 21:13
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Thread title is “physical attributes”.
Yeah. Well. We have progressed
.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.
Not many tall fast players. Lmfao
Almost every tall player can outrun a shorty.every time
Anonymous
12/16/2020 21:08
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Thread title is “physical attributes”.
Yeah. Well. We have progressed
.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.
Not many tall fast players. Lmfao
Anonymous
12/16/2020 19:15
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Thread title is “physical attributes”.
Yeah. Well. We have progressed
.....but the recruitment for fast/tall players still remains starting at the club level.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 18:37
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Thread title is “physical attributes”.
Yeah. Well. We have progressed
Anonymous
12/16/2020 18:30
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Thread title is “physical attributes”.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 17:58
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Academic record is another area people sleep on.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 16:11
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
I agree...."But".
As another poster put it, players are recruited after a review of the total package...height, weight, skill, speed, iq, vision, academics, leadership, attitude, personality, resilance,, ability to receive financial grants via academics et al, what it will cost their program to accept this kid..etc.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 12:36
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Nothing is equal such as the USC Rowing Team (ie Lori Loughlin). But if everything being equal, height is always more regarded.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 12:21
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:USMNT suck. Whats their height?
Christian Pulisic is 5'8".
He is having problems in the premier league. This is why people are higher on Gio vs Pulisic. It is what it is. The other interesting statistic is taller player play longer. After 30 the average height in increases by 5 cm.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 12:09
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Line up 1000 women.
Only 7-10 will be as tall as Ordonez and Morgan. Or Sam Mewis, Sauerbrun, Davis or MacDonald.
500 will be as tall at Kerr and Lavelle. So I get how out of 1000 or more players maybe you find a Lavelle.
But why are so many tall players selected if this is all random?
They are so so rare in the population.
It’s mathematically impossible. There is only one answer. They are selecting for height. At all levels. Otherwise there is no way to explain it. Otherwise there should be more shorter players than tall players right? These 1% should be the anomaly.
Alex Morgan is listed at 5'7". 17.7% of females age 20-29 are that height or taller. That is 177 per 1,000.
Many of the best male soccer players were relatively short. Maradona at 5'5", Messi at 5'7", and Pele at 5'8" are often cited as three of the best. Although they were short, they were quick, and strong, with a low center of gravity. Pele could even make up for lack of height because he had great leaping ability and was an extraordinary header of the ball. Mia Hamm was 5'5". She was quick. I think the reason women soccer players are comparatively taller is because the shorter women do not have comparable physiological advantages. They tend not to be noticeably quicker (Hamm and Lavelle are exceptions) than taller women.
You really can’t compare Maradona and Pele to today’s games. Messi was great but is not the rule. There are many more tall quick player Ronaldo, Haaland, Robert Lewandowski, Kevin De Bruyne, Harry Kane, Paul Pogba, Virgil van Dijk vs short players.
Short player below 5’8 will struggle to establish themselves as professionals. Average height for premier league -5’11.5”, Bundesliga 6’ 1/4”, La Liga 5’10 3/4”. In addition to being taller vs average men, they also out mass your typical average men till about 24. After that average men are...let’s face it fatter vs pro soccer players. Those are average heights so the few players under 5’8” really bring the average.
Only 67 European clubs out of 572 (11.7%) fielded players on average shorter than 180cm. https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/atlas/en/
Yep, Harry Kane is lightning. I am sure prime Maradona and Pele would struggle to play at Kane's high level of athleticism and skill. (Speculation here, but if you had a team of Maradonas playing a team of Kanes the ball would be in the Kane side 90%+ of the time.) These guys may be fast, but not necessarily quick. And not one has top level close control.
As of summer the most valuable players (transfer value) were: Mbappe - 5'10"; Sterling 5'7"; Sancho 5'11"; Alexander-Arnold 5'9"; Rashford 5'11; Salah 5'9"; Mane 5'9"; Griezmann 5'9"; Davies 6'0"; Kane 6'2"; Firmino 5'11"; Bernardo Silva 5'8"; Gabriel Jesus 5'9"; Joao Felix 5'11" . . . Do you see a pattern?
The issue in the women's game is there are comparatively fewer counterparts to the list above. But if you did have a team of prime Martas vs pick a tall current player on U.S. team, I'm betting on the Martas.
Martas vs abby wambach?
Anonymous
12/16/2020 11:25
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
The truest comment is that all thing are rarely equal when looking at the totality of the player.
1,000,000,0000
Anonymous
12/16/2020 11:22
Subject: Female physical attributes for positions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sports is a game of inches and seconds in regards to height, jumping ability and speed.
There are always exceptions based upon a player’s technical abilities. But if the player has great technical skills along with height and speed, he/she would be highly recruited.
If a coach has two players with identical technical abilities and speed but one is 2 inches taller, the coach would pick the taller player. Reality sucks, but it’s true.
Truest comment on entire DCUM Soccer board. +1
+1000
+1000.