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Post 12/25/2020 23:33     Subject: Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Defund pubic schools and give out vouchers


Vouchers are not going to happen, but if it makes you guys feel empowered to keep repeating this tired, empty mantra, have at it, I guess.


14 states and DC already have private school voucher programs. Public support for vouchers will increase the longer public schools remain closed.


Okay. If you think they're going to fund enough vouchers for the 800,000 kids in this area - keep dreaming. A single year of grants for every child at $10,000 would be 8 billion dollars. That's more than the entire budgets of all the northern VA school districts and the D.C. schools budget combined.


There aren't enough privates to even take all those kids.


Why would expect changes to occur overnight?


Typo. Why would *you* expect changes to occur overnight?
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:33     Subject: Re:Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping kids out of school for 2.5 years over a virus with a 99% survival rate is batsh!t crazy and completely unfair and untenable.


Stop being so selfish. 1% mortality rate is still a lot of people abs would be higher if schools were open!

So keep kids out of school for 3 years over this? Get high risk people and adults vaccinated and get kids back in school. Enough of this sh!t. Kids matter too and 3 years of DL will do irreparable harm to millions of them.

No, it won’t. Kids survive famine and war and parents in the US can’t imagine their child having to survive the smallest adversity. It’s embarrassing.


You know what generally stays open during famine and war?

Schools.

It's embarrassing that Yemen has been fighting to keep schools open during civil war and famine, yet US teachers are fighting to keep schools closed for a virus whose transmission can be mitigated with a 10 cent mask and some open windows.


Actually no, often they don't during civil war or pandemics.


Read up on history again. There's no precedent for blanket closing schools for a year+ in countries with functioning governments, regardless of whether you're looking at wars, pandemics, famines, or natural disasters.


They're not closed. Welcome to the 21st Century. And quite frankly - school actions during this pandemic will be cited for future cases and needs in the oncoming decades. Tele-school is here to stay.


+1, no schools are closed. They have changed how they teach and you no longer get child care. Schools at best are about 100-140 years old. And, many have closed and right now those open will continue to open/close with positives which will be much more disruptive than the stability we have now.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:32     Subject: Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Defund pubic schools and give out vouchers


Vouchers are not going to happen, but if it makes you guys feel empowered to keep repeating this tired, empty mantra, have at it, I guess.


14 states and DC already have private school voucher programs. Public support for vouchers will increase the longer public schools remain closed.


Okay. If you think they're going to fund enough vouchers for the 800,000 kids in this area - keep dreaming. A single year of grants for every child at $10,000 would be 8 billion dollars. That's more than the entire budgets of all the northern VA school districts and the D.C. schools budget combined.


There aren't enough privates to even take all those kids.


Why would expect changes to occur overnight?
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:31     Subject: Re:Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping kids out of school for 2.5 years over a virus with a 99% survival rate is batsh!t crazy and completely unfair and untenable.


Stop being so selfish. 1% mortality rate is still a lot of people abs would be higher if schools were open!

So keep kids out of school for 3 years over this? Get high risk people and adults vaccinated and get kids back in school. Enough of this sh!t. Kids matter too and 3 years of DL will do irreparable harm to millions of them.

No, it won’t. Kids survive famine and war and parents in the US can’t imagine their child having to survive the smallest adversity. It’s embarrassing.


You know what generally stays open during famine and war?

Schools.

It's embarrassing that Yemen has been fighting to keep schools open during civil war and famine, yet US teachers are fighting to keep schools closed for a virus whose transmission can be mitigated with a 10 cent mask and some open windows.


Actually no, often they don't during civil war or pandemics.


Read up on history again. There's no precedent for blanket closing schools for a year+ in countries with functioning governments, regardless of whether you're looking at wars, pandemics, famines, or natural disasters.


They're not closed. Welcome to the 21st Century. And quite frankly - school actions during this pandemic will be cited for future cases and needs in the oncoming decades. Tele-school is here to stay.


I agree it will be cited. But I don't think history will look kindly on the decision to keep school ls closed for so long. Much of the effects are not being measured right now because schools have dramatically decreased expectations, many students aren't participating, and special education programs are not meaningfully operating.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:30     Subject: Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Defund pubic schools and give out vouchers


Vouchers are not going to happen, but if it makes you guys feel empowered to keep repeating this tired, empty mantra, have at it, I guess.


14 states and DC already have private school voucher programs. Public support for vouchers will increase the longer public schools remain closed.


Okay. If you think they're going to fund enough vouchers for the 800,000 kids in this area - keep dreaming. A single year of grants for every child at $10,000 would be 8 billion dollars. That's more than the entire budgets of all the northern VA school districts and the D.C. schools budget combined.


There aren't enough privates to even take all those kids.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:27     Subject: Re:Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping kids out of school for 2.5 years over a virus with a 99% survival rate is batsh!t crazy and completely unfair and untenable.


Stop being so selfish. 1% mortality rate is still a lot of people abs would be higher if schools were open!

So keep kids out of school for 3 years over this? Get high risk people and adults vaccinated and get kids back in school. Enough of this sh!t. Kids matter too and 3 years of DL will do irreparable harm to millions of them.

No, it won’t. Kids survive famine and war and parents in the US can’t imagine their child having to survive the smallest adversity. It’s embarrassing.


You know what generally stays open during famine and war?

Schools.

It's embarrassing that Yemen has been fighting to keep schools open during civil war and famine, yet US teachers are fighting to keep schools closed for a virus whose transmission can be mitigated with a 10 cent mask and some open windows.


Actually no, often they don't during civil war or pandemics.


Read up on history again. There's no precedent for blanket closing schools for a year+ in countries with functioning governments, regardless of whether you're looking at wars, pandemics, famines, or natural disasters.


They're not closed. Welcome to the 21st Century. And quite frankly - school actions during this pandemic will be cited for future cases and needs in the oncoming decades. Tele-school is here to stay.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:26     Subject: Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Defund pubic schools and give out vouchers


Vouchers are not going to happen, but if it makes you guys feel empowered to keep repeating this tired, empty mantra, have at it, I guess.


14 states and DC already have private school voucher programs. Public support for vouchers will increase the longer public schools remain closed.


Most people can do the math. Where do you think millions of kids are going to go with those vouchers? Every private and parochial school has wait lists a mile long without vouchers.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:25     Subject: Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Defund pubic schools and give out vouchers


Vouchers are not going to happen, but if it makes you guys feel empowered to keep repeating this tired, empty mantra, have at it, I guess.


14 states and DC already have private school voucher programs. Public support for vouchers will increase the longer public schools remain closed.


Okay. If you think they're going to fund enough vouchers for the 800,000 kids in this area - keep dreaming. A single year of grants for every child at $10,000 would be 8 billion dollars. That's more than the entire budgets of all the northern VA school districts and the D.C. schools budget combined.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:22     Subject: Re:Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping kids out of school for 2.5 years over a virus with a 99% survival rate is batsh!t crazy and completely unfair and untenable.


Stop being so selfish. 1% mortality rate is still a lot of people abs would be higher if schools were open!

So keep kids out of school for 3 years over this? Get high risk people and adults vaccinated and get kids back in school. Enough of this sh!t. Kids matter too and 3 years of DL will do irreparable harm to millions of them.

No, it won’t. Kids survive famine and war and parents in the US can’t imagine their child having to survive the smallest adversity. It’s embarrassing.


You know what generally stays open during famine and war?

Schools.

It's embarrassing that Yemen has been fighting to keep schools open during civil war and famine, yet US teachers are fighting to keep schools closed for a virus whose transmission can be mitigated with a 10 cent mask and some open windows.


Actually no, often they don't during civil war or pandemics.


Read up on history again. There's no precedent for blanket closing schools for a year+ in countries with functioning governments, regardless of whether you're looking at wars, pandemics, famines, or natural disasters.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:18     Subject: Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Defund pubic schools and give out vouchers


Vouchers are not going to happen, but if it makes you guys feel empowered to keep repeating this tired, empty mantra, have at it, I guess.


14 states and DC already have private school voucher programs. Public support for vouchers will increase the longer public schools remain closed.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:17     Subject: Re:Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping kids out of school for 2.5 years over a virus with a 99% survival rate is batsh!t crazy and completely unfair and untenable.


Stop being so selfish. 1% mortality rate is still a lot of people abs would be higher if schools were open!

So keep kids out of school for 3 years over this? Get high risk people and adults vaccinated and get kids back in school. Enough of this sh!t. Kids matter too and 3 years of DL will do irreparable harm to millions of them.

No, it won’t. Kids survive famine and war and parents in the US can’t imagine their child having to survive the smallest adversity. It’s embarrassing.


x1000 Well said, PP.

So I guess you too are cool with kids enduring increased poverty, homelessness, abuse, and decreased access to regular meal and the support network a school provides while distance learning drones on for two more years? Hey, as long as it isn’t “war or famine,” they should be able to survive these “smallest adversities,” right? Pure cluelessness, idiocy, and wrongly stereotyping all American kids as rich and privileged.


Those kids are enduring those things regardless of covid so stop picking on them to preach your morality when for all these years you have been part of the problem, not solution. If anything there are more supports now in terms of housing and food than ever before. There are so many meal hand outs that no child should be going hungry. And, schools don't change the home life.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:15     Subject: Re:Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keeping kids out of school for 2.5 years over a virus with a 99% survival rate is batsh!t crazy and completely unfair and untenable.


Stop being so selfish. 1% mortality rate is still a lot of people abs would be higher if schools were open!

So keep kids out of school for 3 years over this? Get high risk people and adults vaccinated and get kids back in school. Enough of this sh!t. Kids matter too and 3 years of DL will do irreparable harm to millions of them.

No, it won’t. Kids survive famine and war and parents in the US can’t imagine their child having to survive the smallest adversity. It’s embarrassing.


You know what generally stays open during famine and war?

Schools.

It's embarrassing that Yemen has been fighting to keep schools open during civil war and famine, yet US teachers are fighting to keep schools closed for a virus whose transmission can be mitigated with a 10 cent mask and some open windows.


Actually no, often they don't during civil war or pandemics.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 23:13     Subject: Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

Anonymous wrote:Defund pubic schools and give out vouchers


Vouchers are not going to happen, but if it makes you guys feel empowered to keep repeating this tired, empty mantra, have at it, I guess.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 22:05     Subject: Re:Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have been back this entire year in private school. Time for school choice everyone. Because public schools aren't opening in the fall either.


Selfish. Me me me.


Why is this selfish - public schools are not providing a service people want or can use at this time. It’s BS that if you can pay your kid can go to school.


Agreed. I've never supported vouchers before, except while playing devil's advocate in a college course that was primarily for education majors. But I support them now, provided they come with restrictions that the voucher must constitute payment in full for tuition. This pandemic has demonstrated that there's no other way to keep public schools in check when the teachers unions wield so much political power.


I’m not sure about vouchers but I’d be totally ok with support directly to Catholics schools, since they have already demonstrated they can educate kids well at affordable tuition levels.
Anonymous
Post 12/25/2020 22:03     Subject: Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

Defund pubic schools and give out vouchers