Anonymous
07/14/2020 12:18
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
A free market means an educated consumer can make their choices, however rational or irrational, based on whatever factors they wish. If one of those factors is where the profits from their purchase ends up, such as at a soup kitchen or a presidential candidate, is up to that consumer.
I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of cancel culture. We are free to buy what we want and support whatever causes we want, and the more we know about corporate leadership, the more informed we are to spend our dollars as we wish.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 12:18
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Go back to page 15 and read my post from 12:34.
While there is short-term buying of Goya products and they are selling off the shelves, traditionally people that boycott products and companies are long-term repeat buyers who switch to other brands. The people who are buying to object to boycotts are typically short-term buyers who are trying to counter a boycott. They will buy products now, but they are not typically repeat customers of such products and so after a month, two or three, they will stop their protest buying. So, boycotts often have no effect short term, but will have lasting effects after the current quarter or two goes by when the objectors stop buying but the boycotters do not return to the products.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 12:18
Subject: How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:I don't get why the Trump supporters are so afraid of the free market. This is capitalism in action. There are market choices and people are making them. Why do Trump supporters fear capitalism?
Because there are more of us than them. When we boycott, it actually works. When they boycott, nobody cares. Capitalism.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 12:15
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Exactly. I'm tired of folks not respecting others for their personal political/religious views. Like I said, I'm not a fan/supporter of Trump...but I have family members who are...we respect each other and agree to disagree. I don't cut ties with them and I would never "unfriend" someone just for having differing political/religious views. If the CEO of a business is pro-abortion and I'm not....that doesn't mean I wouldn't support the business. Same principle.
Anyone who does this is self-righteous and only believes their point of view is the right one and doesn't respect other people's opinions or views if they conflict. This extreme leftist self-righteous attitude that has taken hold over the last few years is actually pushing me the other way.
I respect his opinion enough to let him have it - while I buy another product, from a company whose CEO doesn't speak out publicly in support of the most corrupt and incompetent president ever to kill 135k Americans in a deadly pandemic due to his utter disinterest in doing his job.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 12:12
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Exactly. I'm tired of folks not respecting others for their personal political/religious views. Like I said, I'm not a fan/supporter of Trump...but I have family members who are...we respect each other and agree to disagree. I don't cut ties with them and I would never "unfriend" someone just for having differing political/religious views. If the CEO of a business is pro-abortion and I'm not....that doesn't mean I wouldn't support the business. Same principle.
Anyone who does this is self-righteous and only believes their point of view is the right one and doesn't respect other people's opinions or views if they conflict. This extreme leftist self-righteous attitude that has taken hold over the last few years is actually pushing me the other way.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 12:11
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
That's ridiculous. "Cancel culture" is a very new fad from the last year or two. Boycotting companies that support different political issues has been around for decades, long before the Internet was ever a thing.
In the 1980's Coca-Cola was the target of a major boycott due to their financial support of the white South African government and their apartheid system.
In the 1990's Mitsubishi was the target of a major boycott due to the deforestation of the rainforests.
Late 1990's to 2000's, there was a massive boycott of Thailand and Thai products due to the prostitution of Thai children.
And there are even corporate boycotts that go way earlier than that.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 12:01
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Yes, we don't agree on what is virtuous - and we can shop accordingly, as we like. That's the free market.
"Cancel culture" just means people are upset about a thing you like. No one is banning Goya. I will simply select other canned beans from the store next time, just as I will never buy another My Pillow pillow. I think Trump is an evil boil on the a** of America, and like h*ll I am going to spend my money supporting businesses that support his killing of Americans. I call it draining the commercial swamp.
Really? Have you actually bought a My Pillow at all?
Actually yes! My mom turned me onto My Pillows a long time ago, before Trump's presidency was even an inkling. They are great pillows. But when this crop gets worn out, I will find another brand, that is smart enough not to associate itself with Captain Poppy Pants
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:55
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am latina and won't be buying anything from Goya. There are plenty of other options out there, including imported goods from my home country. I will not give my money to these people, same way I don't buy at Walmart or Hobby Lobby for example.
NP. My husband is from South America. We feel the same way, as do many of our friends.
+1
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:54
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am latina and won't be buying anything from Goya. There are plenty of other options out there, including imported goods from my home country. I will not give my money to these people, same way I don't buy at Walmart or Hobby Lobby for example.
Not buy in Walmart? You must be rich. A rich Latina woman.
A member of the Spanish elite. The light skinned over class.
Oh my, the crazy anglos never cease to surprise you.
The "Spanish elite" is a real thing...in Spain.
And they don't even know wtf is Goya foods.
Actually, it's a thing in Latin America, too. The lighter your skin (ie, Spanish heritage), the more advantage you have.
Yes, because Spain is a European colonizer and like all European colonizers they exported their racist, white supremacist views to their “new lands”.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:50
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Yes, we don't agree on what is virtuous - and we can shop accordingly, as we like. That's the free market.
"Cancel culture" just means people are upset about a thing you like. No one is banning Goya. I will simply select other canned beans from the store next time, just as I will never buy another My Pillow pillow. I think Trump is an evil boil on the a** of America, and like h*ll I am going to spend my money supporting businesses that support his killing of Americans. I call it draining the commercial swamp.
Really? Have you actually bought a My Pillow at all?
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:48
Subject: How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
I don't get why the Trump supporters are so afraid of the free market. This is capitalism in action. There are market choices and people are making them. Why do Trump supporters fear capitalism?
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:24
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Yes, we don't agree on what is virtuous - and we can shop accordingly, as we like. That's the free market.
"Cancel culture" just means people are upset about a thing you like. No one is banning Goya. I will simply select other canned beans from the store next time, just as I will never buy another My Pillow pillow. I think Trump is an evil boil on the a** of America, and like h*ll I am going to spend my money supporting businesses that support his killing of Americans. I call it draining the commercial swamp.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:21
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:12
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 11:12
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am latina and won't be buying anything from Goya. There are plenty of other options out there, including imported goods from my home country. I will not give my money to these people, same way I don't buy at Walmart or Hobby Lobby for example.
Not buy in Walmart? You must be rich. A rich Latina woman.
A member of the Spanish elite. The light skinned over class.
Oh my, the crazy anglos never cease to surprise you.
The "Spanish elite" is a real thing...in Spain.
And they don't even know wtf is Goya foods.
Actually, it's a thing in Latin America, too. The lighter your skin (ie, Spanish heritage), the more advantage you have.