Anonymous
08/31/2018 00:08
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how parents from Arlington and FCV see their respective programs running. Geography doesn't matter. We can participate in any of those programs.
If FCV believed or wanted your player to participate they would have reached out to you.
So then is this poaching or legal under DA rules?
Poaching is hard to prove and happy players generally do not leave.
And this is an anonymous board with no legal repercussions!It does though peak the curiosity. But no big deal. Another poster clarified more and is more similar to what other clubs do. It's hard to believe they only take players if they initiated the recruitment. In fact, from the players that I know that went there this year, I don't think all were recruited. Some reached out to FCV.
Anyhoo, the original question is how FCV runs its practices and so forth. Like I heard the DP players always practice with the DA team, so that means, what 25 or 26 U17s (based on PP), still 21 U19s, I'm unclear on 04s. How many teams practice at once? One FCV family told me 4 coaches watch each team during each practice. Is that accurate? And how much does FCV have players training up (and how often) or playing up?
It's very interesting to hear about a club which - no matter what - has certainly had a long track record of successful teams.
Very few kids play up. They only have two real coaches the rest are parents.
Thank you for the information. In comparison, WS routinely plays up all the time, deserved or not, under-challenged or not, short on numbers or not. Of course, some of that is parent driven, and some of that is WS driven. WS plays up players even when it means sitting age appropriate players. They did it last year, and they said they will do it again this year.
Anonymous
08/31/2018 00:05
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.
Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...
FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22
Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team
Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16
Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17
The U15s have 24. There are 2 players not on there that I know are not only on the FT roster, they are starters.
I should clarify: the WS VA U15s. So I don't know if there are missing players from the other rosters as well.
Anonymous
08/31/2018 00:04
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.
Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...
FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22
Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team
Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16
Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17
The U15s have 24. There are 2 players not on there that I know are not only on the FT roster, they are starters.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 21:10
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how parents from Arlington and FCV see their respective programs running. Geography doesn't matter. We can participate in any of those programs.
If FCV believed or wanted your player to participate they would have reached out to you.
So then is this poaching or legal under DA rules?
Poaching is hard to prove and happy players generally do not leave.
And this is an anonymous board with no legal repercussions!
Anyhoo, the original question is how FCV runs its practices and so forth. Like I heard the DP players always practice with the DA team, so that means, what 25 or 26 U17s (based on PP), still 21 U19s, I'm unclear on 04s. How many teams practice at once? One FCV family told me 4 coaches watch each team during each practice. Is that accurate? And how much does FCV have players training up (and how often) or playing up?
It's very interesting to hear about a club which - no matter what - has certainly had a long track record of successful teams.
Very few kids play up. They only have two real coaches the rest are parents.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 20:46
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.
Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...
FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22
Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team
Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16
Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17
Yep. Looks pretty evenly distributed to me, across the age groups. I imagine Spirit VA plan to play some of those 15s with the 16/17's. Doesn't look like the dumpster fire that was advertised.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 20:43
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.
Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...
FCV U15s = 18
FCV U16/17 = 22
Arlington U15 = 17
No U16/17 team
Wash Spirit VA U15s = 22
Wash Spirit VA U16/17 = 16
Wash Spirit MD U15s = 18
Wash Spirit MD U16/17 = 17
Anonymous
08/30/2018 18:04
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Rosters are posted on the USSDA site.
Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...
Interesting information given some of the numbers that were being thrown out here earlier in the thread...
Anonymous
08/30/2018 17:27
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how parents from Arlington and FCV see their respective programs running. Geography doesn't matter. We can participate in any of those programs.
If FCV believed or wanted your player to participate they would have reached out to you.
So then is this poaching or legal under DA rules?
Poaching is hard to prove and happy players generally do not leave.
Recruiting is explicitly allowed under DA rules. There are no restrictions on contact or communication or otherwise making a sales pitch. The only restriction is DA players aren't allowed to attend training with another DA club without their club's permission. This doesn't really matter though since the local DAs all play each other 3x per year so there are ample opportunities for coaches to assess other teams players.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 16:05
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how parents from Arlington and FCV see their respective programs running. Geography doesn't matter. We can participate in any of those programs.
If FCV believed or wanted your player to participate they would have reached out to you.
So then is this poaching or legal under DA rules?
Poaching is hard to prove and happy players generally do not leave.
And this is an anonymous board with no legal repercussions!
It does though peak the curiosity. But no big deal. Another poster clarified more and is more similar to what other clubs do. It's hard to believe they only take players if they initiated the recruitment. In fact, from the players that I know that went there this year, I don't think all were recruited. Some reached out to FCV.
Anyhoo, the original question is how FCV runs its practices and so forth. Like I heard the DP players always practice with the DA team, so that means, what 25 or 26 U17s (based on PP), still 21 U19s, I'm unclear on 04s. How many teams practice at once? One FCV family told me 4 coaches watch each team during each practice. Is that accurate? And how much does FCV have players training up (and how often) or playing up?
It's very interesting to hear about a club which - no matter what - has certainly had a long track record of successful teams.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 14:28
Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It remains to be seen if Arlington will be granted DA teams in the older age groups next year or ever.
If they don't will their U15 DA girls team all stay in Arlington? They could play EDP for a year and hope they get a U16/17 DA team the next year?
There will not be a DA group added above the age of 04 at Arlington. The 04 age group at Arlington will maintain their DA status. Does that make sense?
Do you know this factually? If they won't add anything above U15, what happens to Arlington's 04s next year?
Well, this why I asked, "does this make sense".
The 04's will likely maintain their DA status as they continue to age up. There will never be a Arlington DA team for 02's for example but the US Soccer will likely continue to add the age groups to keep the 04's in the program.
This is what they did on the boys side with VDA as an example.
That's fair.
I'm sorting it out in my mind just like you. You are correct on the 02s. No way. I guess given the performance of the 03s, I find their situation "unlucky".
Anonymous
08/30/2018 13:04
Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It remains to be seen if Arlington will be granted DA teams in the older age groups next year or ever.
If they don't will their U15 DA girls team all stay in Arlington? They could play EDP for a year and hope they get a U16/17 DA team the next year?
There will not be a DA group added above the age of 04 at Arlington. The 04 age group at Arlington will maintain their DA status. Does that make sense?
Do you know this factually? If they won't add anything above U15, what happens to Arlington's 04s next year?
Well, this why I asked, "does this make sense".
The 04's will likely maintain their DA status as they continue to age up. There will never be a Arlington DA team for 02's for example but the US Soccer will likely continue to add the age groups to keep the 04's in the program.
This is what they did on the boys side with VDA as an example.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 13:00
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how parents from Arlington and FCV see their respective programs running. Geography doesn't matter. We can participate in any of those programs.
If FCV believed or wanted your player to participate they would have reached out to you.
So then is this poaching or legal under DA rules?
Poaching is hard to prove and happy players generally do not leave.
Anonymous
08/30/2018 12:54
Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It remains to be seen if Arlington will be granted DA teams in the older age groups next year or ever.
If they don't will their U15 DA girls team all stay in Arlington? They could play EDP for a year and hope they get a U16/17 DA team the next year?
There will not be a DA group added above the age of 04 at Arlington. The 04 age group at Arlington will maintain their DA status. Does that make sense?
Do you know this factually? If they won't add anything above U15, what happens to Arlington's 04s next year?
Anonymous
08/30/2018 12:23
Subject: Re:Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It remains to be seen if Arlington will be granted DA teams in the older age groups next year or ever.
If they don't will their U15 DA girls team all stay in Arlington? They could play EDP for a year and hope they get a U16/17 DA team the next year?
There will not be a DA group added above the age of 04 at Arlington. The 04 age group at Arlington will maintain their DA status. Does that make sense?
Not really. That would imply that Arlington will have a U16/17 DA Team next year? In which case Arlington 03 will also have "DA status" next year?
Arlington's 03s went to NC for the DA showcase and won all 3 games. So why not?
Anonymous
08/30/2018 12:22
Subject: Girls DA 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how parents from Arlington and FCV see their respective programs running. Geography doesn't matter. We can participate in any of those programs.
If FCV believed or wanted your player to participate they would have reached out to you.
So then is this poaching or legal under DA rules?