Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live in Aurora Highlands and I really wonder what is going to happen to Oakridge. We're at 120% capacity, so the school is clearly in the top teir of schools that need capacity relief. APS has talked about building a new school at the Aurora Hill library, but if you look at the numbers we don't have enough kids to support two schools. When montessori moves out of Drew that should open up about 500 seats near Oakridge, but that will mean crossing 395 which is awful. I don't see any good solutions for the SE quadrant.
They will have to bus some kids across 395, there's no other way to help Oakridge. My guess is that much of the current Hoffman-Boston zone will go to Drew so that students from the nothern part of the Oakridge zone can be moved to Hoffman-Boston.
Anonymous wrote:I live in Aurora Highlands and I really wonder what is going to happen to Oakridge. We're at 120% capacity, so the school is clearly in the top teir of schools that need capacity relief. APS has talked about building a new school at the Aurora Hill library, but if you look at the numbers we don't have enough kids to support two schools. When montessori moves out of Drew that should open up about 500 seats near Oakridge, but that will mean crossing 395 which is awful. I don't see any good solutions for the SE quadrant.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
I live on the southern side of Rosslyn. We are a household with two working parents and we don't drive on a regular basis, though we do have a personal vehicle. My first choice would be to have a neighborhood school at Key, just under a mile walk. We are not technically in the walk zone, but we are people who would walk anyway because that's what we do. My second choice would be Long Branch, 2.4 mile drive that takes about 10 min at rush hour. There are also plenty of buses on this route. Third choice is Science Focus, 2.7 miles and closer to 15 min at rush hour, limited transit options. Taylor, the school that would actually have space, would be a terrible option. It's 3.6 miles away and more like 20 minutes because I would have to drive through Rosslyn to get there. Also, the transit options are awful.
My obviously biased take is that the best long term solution, should the board be able to stomach it, is to move immersion to Carlin Springs and have a concentrated outreach effort to get neighborhood families to buy into the immersion idea. Key would continue to be a diverse school because of the neighborhood demographics and the area needs neighborhood seats. Science Focus would then be able to absorb its walk zone as well as apartments in Virginia Square and Ballston, hopefully remaining a reasonably diverse school and fixing the Ashlawn Jag. Ashlawn would then have capacity to pull up some of the Carlin Springs zone from below route 50.
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That's all well and good to help the NE quadrant; but SE will still need more seats, too. Moving the Claremont immersion program to Carlin Springs could address that without having to build another new school.
Do you mean around Oakridge? If Key was neighborhood some zones could be shifted up, as well - some of Long Branch to Science Focus, and then more units S of 50 up to Long Branch, and so on? I don't know if that would work, honestly. I only truly know my corner of the county.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
This is a parody post, right? It’s weak, and slightly pathetic.
You know someone has made a valid point when the immediate response is to start name-calling.
New poster, but I thought it was a parody too.
I wish people would stop saying you can move kids to long branch. Yes, some of that school will be rezoned to fleet, but only enough to relieve the immediate over crowding there. If they do anything with asfs, it will be to move people to Taylor.
They also said they aren’t touching the Ashlawn boundary in 2019. So Ashlawn lads you’re still at Ashlawn for the next three years.
Since when have you ever been able to rely on what "they" (ie APS) says? NVD gave pretty clear direction to come back with a whole-County, one-time solution for ES boundaries this fall.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
I live on the southern side of Rosslyn. We are a household with two working parents and we don't drive on a regular basis, though we do have a personal vehicle. My first choice would be to have a neighborhood school at Key, just under a mile walk. We are not technically in the walk zone, but we are people who would walk anyway because that's what we do. My second choice would be Long Branch, 2.4 mile drive that takes about 10 min at rush hour. There are also plenty of buses on this route. Third choice is Science Focus, 2.7 miles and closer to 15 min at rush hour, limited transit options. Taylor, the school that would actually have space, would be a terrible option. It's 3.6 miles away and more like 20 minutes because I would have to drive through Rosslyn to get there. Also, the transit options are awful.
My obviously biased take is that the best long term solution, should the board be able to stomach it, is to move immersion to Carlin Springs and have a concentrated outreach effort to get neighborhood families to buy into the immersion idea. Key would continue to be a diverse school because of the neighborhood demographics and the area needs neighborhood seats. Science Focus would then be able to absorb its walk zone as well as apartments in Virginia Square and Ballston, hopefully remaining a reasonably diverse school and fixing the Ashlawn Jag. Ashlawn would then have capacity to pull up some of the Carlin Springs zone from below route 50.
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That's all well and good to help the NE quadrant; but SE will still need more seats, too. Moving the Claremont immersion program to Carlin Springs could address that without having to build another new school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
I live on the southern side of Rosslyn. We are a household with two working parents and we don't drive on a regular basis, though we do have a personal vehicle. My first choice would be to have a neighborhood school at Key, just under a mile walk. We are not technically in the walk zone, but we are people who would walk anyway because that's what we do. My second choice would be Long Branch, 2.4 mile drive that takes about 10 min at rush hour. There are also plenty of buses on this route. Third choice is Science Focus, 2.7 miles and closer to 15 min at rush hour, limited transit options. Taylor, the school that would actually have space, would be a terrible option. It's 3.6 miles away and more like 20 minutes because I would have to drive through Rosslyn to get there. Also, the transit options are awful.
My obviously biased take is that the best long term solution, should the board be able to stomach it, is to move immersion to Carlin Springs and have a concentrated outreach effort to get neighborhood families to buy into the immersion idea. Key would continue to be a diverse school because of the neighborhood demographics and the area needs neighborhood seats. Science Focus would then be able to absorb its walk zone as well as apartments in Virginia Square and Ballston, hopefully remaining a reasonably diverse school and fixing the Ashlawn Jag. Ashlawn would then have capacity to pull up some of the Carlin Springs zone from below route 50.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
This is a parody post, right? It’s weak, and slightly pathetic.
You know someone has made a valid point when the immediate response is to start name-calling.
New poster, but I thought it was a parody too.
I wish people would stop saying you can move kids to long branch. Yes, some of that school will be rezoned to fleet, but only enough to relieve the immediate over crowding there. If they do anything with asfs, it will be to move people to Taylor.
They also said they aren’t touching the Ashlawn boundary in 2019. So Ashlawn lads you’re still at Ashlawn for the next three years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
I live on the southern side of Rosslyn. We are a household with two working parents and we don't drive on a regular basis, though we do have a personal vehicle. My first choice would be to have a neighborhood school at Key, just under a mile walk. We are not technically in the walk zone, but we are people who would walk anyway because that's what we do. My second choice would be Long Branch, 2.4 mile drive that takes about 10 min at rush hour. There are also plenty of buses on this route. Third choice is Science Focus, 2.7 miles and closer to 15 min at rush hour, limited transit options. Taylor, the school that would actually have space, would be a terrible option. It's 3.6 miles away and more like 20 minutes because I would have to drive through Rosslyn to get there. Also, the transit options are awful.
My obviously biased take is that the best long term solution, should the board be able to stomach it, is to move immersion to Carlin Springs and have a concentrated outreach effort to get neighborhood families to buy into the immersion idea. Key would continue to be a diverse school because of the neighborhood demographics and the area needs neighborhood seats. Science Focus would then be able to absorb its walk zone as well as apartments in Virginia Square and Ballston, hopefully remaining a reasonably diverse school and fixing the Ashlawn Jag. Ashlawn would then have capacity to pull up some of the Carlin Springs zone from below route 50.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
This is a parody post, right? It’s weak, and slightly pathetic.
You know someone has made a valid point when the immediate response is to start name-calling.
It’s not name calling. The post reads like a parody of our of touch, rich, white privilege.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
This is a parody post, right? It’s weak, and slightly pathetic.
You know someone has made a valid point when the immediate response is to start name-calling.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
This is a parody post, right? It’s weak, and slightly pathetic.
You know someone has made a valid point when the immediate response is to start name-calling.
New poster, but I thought it was a parody too.
I wish people would stop saying you can move kids to long branch. Yes, some of that school will be rezoned to fleet, but only enough to relieve the immediate over crowding there. If they do anything with asfs, it will be to move people to Taylor.
They also said they aren’t touching the Ashlawn boundary in 2019. So Ashlawn lads you’re still at Ashlawn for the next three years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?
All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.
Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.
This is a parody post, right? It’s weak, and slightly pathetic.
You know someone has made a valid point when the immediate response is to start name-calling.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please rip off the bandaid and just get these changes done sooner rather than later. All of this just prolongs hand wringing and worrying and makes all parents sound like whiny toddlers who aren't getting their way. Pushing this off until later just means needlessly including more parents with more kids in the process who just want their kid to go to school somewhere nearby.
How do you see that working before Reed opens that isn't just pushing the burden onto people who aren't you? That's not to say you are more deserving of the burden, just that if we're going to create all that upheaval, it should be for some net benefit, not just a zero sum.
I don't understand all the anger and hostility on this site? This is worse than whiny toddlers who can at least be convinced to refrain from name calling with guidance. Unclear why people seem to want to make this personal? This is basic objective decision making. Children can attend the nearby schools, those surrounding Reed. There are 5 neighborhood schools that will share a boundary with Reed when it opens. It's not difficult to figure that out and have children attend whichever neighborhood school they are closer to and be with other neighborhood children - when Reed opens the new boundary is implemented and those planning units move. Don't want to move twice? No problem, give parents the choice. Also not hard. This is certainly not difficult to do when you redrawn boundaries for the entire county and one time instead of looking at each 'onsey-twosy' schools at a time.
PP said absolutely nothing whiny or insulting, so stop trying to derail a legitimate question about the practical implementation of someone's proposal.
More substantively, your suggestion doesn't work. Let's look at the past school year for those five schools:
McKinley - 117% capacity
Ashlawn - 101% capacity
Tuckhoe - 98% capacity, 12 available seats
Nottingham - 102% capacity
Glebe - 122% capacity
Where among those five schools are you going to put the 500-600 students who would need to put pushed in that direction for the eventual Reed opening? We don't have enough vacant trailers in the system to move there to accommodate all of those students.
the pp point is you can make them whatever capacity they need to be when you redraw boundaries.
redrawing boundaries balances the system to evenly distribute the capacity. yes a school might need to operate at 115% for a year or two (many have operated much worse for much longer) and Reed opens and they all go down to 95%.
To be correct for SY18-19:
McKinley - 112.9% capacity
Ashlawn - 103% capacity
Tuckhoe - 95.1% capacity
Nottingham - 102.6% capacity
Glebe - 119.4% capacity
this misses the point - the point he/she made was these numbers are irrelevant when redrawing aside from understanding historic capacity. an entirely new capacity projection is created when boundaries are redrawn - those are the numbers that matter and those can be drawn to balance the entire system. sometimes it's hard for folks to accept things for the greater good. i get it.
Anonymous wrote:The irony of that poster calling PPs whiney toddlers is rich.
What does that mean? They are rich because they live near Reed?
The irony of that poster calling PPs whiney toddlers is rich.